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Joy Behar reveals The View is going on hiatus day after White House calls for it to be canceled

Will 'The View' get canceled?

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ralliann

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Fox is obviously doing well. That’s not in dispute. But you claimed that The View was losing money; the OP implied that their ratings are tanking. In reality, their ratings experience short-term fluctuations but have stayed pretty steady since 2021. They were steady for several years prior to that, too. I don’t know what happened in 2020-2021 that caused a dip in viewers, but it appears to have been a one-off, so it sort of doesn’t matter. There was no downward trend in overall viewership.
well, it is about viewership and money.
 
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well, it is about viewership and money.
If that were true - note the subjective tense - then why would the WH get involved and call for it to be shut down?
 
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That thing has been on the air since 1997. Time to put it out of its misery.
Eh? I honestly wonder who watches it. Are any of them experts?
 
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WH house get involved? No, he made a snide comment.
From the OP:
OP said:
The regularly scheduled summer hiatus sparked speculation online that the show could be gone ‘forever’ because the White House called for its cancellation
 
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Yeah, silly.
Who are you calling silly?
Who did he call on?
Disney's Bob Iger and the head of the FCC, Brendon Carr, according to the article.

With the president gloating that Colbert “got fired” and claiming he struck a secret side deal with Skydance for an additional $20 million in pro-Trump advertising, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr – who is responsible for approving the merger – didn’t directly answer Fox News on Thursday when asked if Trump had anything to do with Colbert’s cancellation.​
At the same time, Carr also suggested that The View could be a program he’d take a close look at amid the White House’s push for it to be taken off the air.​
“Look, it’s entirely possible that there’s issues over there,” he said. “Stepping back, this broader dynamic [that] once President Trump has exposed these media gatekeepers and smashed this facade, there are a lot of consequences. I think the consequences of that aren’t quite finished.”​

Trump has a history of malign threats, some of which he makes good, others not so much.
Congress to cancel them? Alot of people believe it they should be cancelled.....by whom? their employer.....
Congress has no say in this.

And the president ought not to.
 
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So then the comparisons have nothing to do with each other, making your point moot.
No. It means you are deliberately trying to be obtuse to argue for the sake of arguing. Presidents forcing companies to do things is nothing new. Last I checked, OSHA fell under the executive branch and is owned by the president.
 
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Who are you calling silly?

Disney's Bob Iger and the head of the FCC, Brendon Carr, according to the article.

With the president gloating that Colbert “got fired” and claiming he struck a secret side deal with Skydance for an additional $20 million in pro-Trump advertising, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr – who is responsible for approving the merger – didn’t directly answer Fox News on Thursday when asked if Trump had anything to do with Colbert’s cancellation.​
This is Colbert. Who was losing money....
At the same time, Carr also suggested that The View could be a program he’d take a close look at amid the White House’s push for it to be taken off the air.​
“Look, it’s entirely possible that there’s issues over there,” he said. “Stepping back, this broader dynamic [that] once President Trump has exposed these media gatekeepers and smashed this facade, there are a lot of consequences. I think the consequences of that aren’t quite finished.”​
Exposed what gate keepers? Either you are making money or you are not.

Trump has a history of malign threats, some of which he makes good, others not so much.

Congress has no say in this.

And the president ought not to.
And lot's of things are done that should not.
 
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This is Colbert. Who was losing money....
Evidence? This is the highest rated show in the time slot and it's not like an expensive production.
 
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I dont think so. Right or wrong they were acting for the sake of a public health emergency. Thats really different that shutting down political criticism.


Im not familiar with the specifics of this one. If they were trying to stifle political critique, then yeah, that would be similar.

If you recall, it wasn't just the covid stuff, they got quite a bit of mileage out of that "misinformation justifies censorship" schtick.

While Covid was the bulk of it (attempts to censor theories about lab leaks, censoring content that suggested that natural immunity was effective, posts describing side effects, etc...)

There was also the Hunter Biden laptop fiasco...

As well as other things that weren't even declarative statements, but merely opinions, that would get the labelling (or de-boosted in the algorithms), for instance, shadow bans occurring if people posted things that were critical of mail-in voting -- even if those posts didn't make any declarative statements about election fraud.

Censorship of anecdotes was a thing as well... Where if a person had an anecdote (even if that experience was an extreme outlier), it was a "better censor it out of fears that readers will think that sort of thing is more common than what it is".


Also, where we'd disagree... I don't think any kind of emergency should justify that kind of censorship.

Perhaps in a different world with honest and sincere politicians, one could make a case for that with me and win me over, but that's not the world we live in. We live in the one where if they find out the rules are "As long as we claim something is an emergency, we can suspend certain rights or make changes that we wouldn't be able to do with the proper channels", they will use it to their full advantage.
 
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No. It means you are deliberately trying to be obtuse to argue for the sake of arguing.
You’re saying because the government had requirements of businesses to help mitigate the spread of a pandemic, that somehow means it’s not a broad overreach to demand a show be cancelled because you don’t like that they don’t like you. I’m saying they’re not comparable because the show isn’t a health issue. Pretending a mask mandate is the same as demanding a show be cancelled for saying things the president doesn’t like is ludicrous.

Presidents forcing companies to do things is nothing new. Last I checked, OSHA fell under the executive branch and is owned by the president.
OSHA mandates safe work practices and conditions… Speaking against the president is not an OSHA violation. Again, you’re comparing safety regulations that protect the greater good to penalizing a company for speaking against dear leader.

I could stand on the top rung of a stepladder and scream at the top of my lungs about how much I hate Trump and how damaging his presidency is and how incompetent and easily led he is, and the only thing OSHA will have an opinion about is me being on the top rung of the stepladder.

And I’m still waiting to hear who the “they” is that defamed ol what’s-her-face. South Park is protected by free speech and satire, The View doesn’t like her, but dislike isn’t defamation.
 
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They were losing money. heard it on the news. You never heard that?
A rumor started on Facebook, reported on by a gossip rag, then spread back on Facebook.

Colbert came out and said it wasn’t true and if it were he would have been cancelled eons ago.

 
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