The return of Christ in Sept of 2040

Dave Watchman · Jul 6, 2025

Strong in Him said:
Who cares what Isaac Newton said; he knew as much as anyone else.

Newton knew more than anyone else. He knew more than he wanted to say.

Strong in Him said:
In post #85 you said that, Isaac Newton said that he saw no reason for it to be before 2060.

He wrote a note to the public when he said he saw no reason for it to be before 2060.

How did Newton arrive at the date 2060?

This did not involve the use of anything as complicated as calculus, which he invented, but rather simple arithmetic that could be performed by a child.

This is his note I called convoluted. He is measuring 1260 years from three kings, the first 3 Popes, until the second coming. It's not really a Biblical method. It reads like something made up to throw certain people off. It sounds like he was fabricating a date so far away into the future that it would put a stop to people predicting the time of the end.

"So then the time times & half a time are 42 months or 1260 days or three years & an half, recconing twelve months to a yeare & 30 days to a month as was done in the Calendar of the primitive year. And the days of short lived Beasts being put for the years of lived [sic] kingdoms, the period of 1260 days, if dated from the complete conquest of the three kings A.C. 800, will end A.C. 2060. It may end later, but I see no reason for its ending sooner. This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons wch God hath put into his own breast. - Isaac Newton

Strong in Him said:
A few sentences later you said, "Newton knew that it would be around our times, now."

Because he wrote another note, which is a Biblically stated count of weeks, which did not become public until 1969. That material contradicted his 2060 date, which appears to have been written, not as a prediction of the end of the world, but to "put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail."

Strong in Him said:
Which is it - now, or in 35 years time?

It reads to me like Newton knew it would be happening around right now. He would have been looking for 1969, and then around right now. I myself would be on guard for the earliest date. That would be the date I would default to.

Right now, I would be more worried about people saying 2040, or 2030, and then it happens now. We should not be in darkness, so that this Day should overtake us as a thief.

Zceptre · Jul 6, 2025

I think a lot of people are going to be shocked just how soon it is going to happen. I'm not going to dive into the subject too deep, but I can say I am of the very strong opinion that at 2040 you are overshooting by leaps and bounds.

Just for anyone that isn't ready to go who may be reading these speculations, I would suggest having your bags packed (aka being/getting right with God through His Son Jesus) today. (regardless what anyone says about anything)

I wouldn't let anyone whisper a sense of complicity into you that there is "plenty of time" before Christ Jesus returns for His bride. There are numerous signs and they all add up to what Christ described, and yes... scoffers, and plenty of them inside and outside the body of Christ. It is better to be safe than sorry, especially concerning our eternal soul. Plus, finding out you were late for this is the worst thing in life to ever be late for. The capital "T" Tribulation is not going to be a picnic.

2040, I'm going to just give my simple vote on "nope." I think we need to be ready to ride a lot sooner.

Matthew 24:48
But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’

I don't assume that anyone intends to do the things described after this verse, but for anyone that stumbles on this thread needing salvation, or who is not ready... I wouldn't wait to start getting ready. I would do it now, not later.

Revelations 16:15
“Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”

Strong in Him · Jul 6, 2025

Dave Watchman said:
Newton knew more than anyone else. He knew more than he wanted to say.

He didn't know more than Jesus.
And he might have known more than many in his day - he could still be wrong.

Dave Watchman said:
He wrote a note to the public when he said he saw no reason for it to be before 2060.

So why did you say that he expected it to be around "our time, now"?

Dave Watchman said:
This did not involve the use of anything as complicated as calculus, which he invented, but rather simple arithmetic that could be performed by a child.

That's the whole point - "no one knows the day or hour" means just that. It does not mean "but clever people can work it out"; it's only our human pride that makes us think that we can.

Dave Watchman said:
This is his note I called convoluted. He is measuring 1260 years from three kings, the first 3 Popes, until the second coming. It's not really a Biblical method.

None of it's Biblical as far as I can see.
No one knows the day or hour. Be ready and trust God; that's all we need to know.

Dave Watchman said:
It sounds like he was fabricating a date so far away into the future that it would put a stop to people predicting the time of the end.

Exactly!
Hasn't worked, has it?

Dave Watchman said:
It reads to me like Newton knew it would be happening around right now.

Well he obviously didn't.

Dave Watchman said:
He would have been looking for 1969, and then around right now. I myself would be on guard for the earliest date. That would be the date I would default to.

Right now, I would be more worried about people saying 2040, or 2030, and then it happens now. We should not be in darkness, so that this Day should overtake us as a thief.

Dave Watchman said:
He would have been looking for 1969,

I doubt it.
How can anyone "look ahead" to an event that will take place 250+ years after they are alive?

Dave Watchman said:
and then around right now. I myself would be on guard for the earliest date. That would be the date I would default to.

Default to for what?
People have been setting dates since forever; none have been correct.

Dave Watchman · Jul 6, 2025

Strong in Him said:
He didn't know more than Jesus.
And he might have known more than many in his day - he could still be wrong.

I obviously don't think he did either. I don't know what Jesus knew during the Olivet Discourse. He said he was only speaking the words given to Him by the Father.

But Newton knew more than any of us. And only God gives the wisdom to the wise, so I wouldn't be so quick to oppose Newton.

Strong in Him said:
So why did you say that he expected it to be around "our time, now"?

He was writing his Daniel 9 commentary sometime in the 1700's. Those writings were kept from the public eye until 1969, when Yehuda got them out of the courts and brought them to Jerusalem. Newton wrote about something that happened in the 1500's, which would begin the countdown to 1969, and then 2018. And 2025, and 2026.

In his note on Daniel 9 he wrote about another command to restore Jerusalem which would extend down to the end times:

"it may perhaps come forth not from the Jews themselves, but from some other kingdom friendly to them, and precede their return from captivity, and give occasion to it."

Because he was writing in the 1700's, he would have known about the Ottoman decree to restore Jerusalem in the 1500's, which I think he was making reference to here: "Not from the Jews themselves, but from some other kingdom friendly to them. "And precede their return from captivity, and give occasion to it. (1948).

Strong in Him said:
That's the whole point - "no one knows the day or hour" means just that. It does not mean "but clever people can work it out"; it's only our human pride that makes us think that we can.

I actually don't want to know the day and hour. I would be satisfied with the year, or the season.

"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing:

but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Strong in Him said:
None of it's Biblical as far as I can see.
No one knows the day or hour. Be ready and trust God; that's all we need to know.

I obviously agree. Not even the angels. Not even the Son of Man. But I bet Jesus knows it's getting very close now.

Only the Father in Heaven can know the day and the hour. Because Jesus would never blot our names out from the Book of Life. But it was the Father Who wrote them in the Book in the first place from before the foundation of the universe. Some of those names are still coming through the pipeline now. We're just waiting for some of our brothers, and our fellow servants.

Strong in Him said:
Exactly!
Hasn't worked, has it?

It did. Because even now, to this very day, Isaac Newton's note about 2060, is throwing people off. It's still putting:

"a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons wch God hath put into his own breast. - Isaac Newton

Especially someone like Newton. If someone like Newton spelled it all out in specific detail, many would be taking him seriously. He was concerned that he might violate Jesus being able to come as a thief in the night.

I think the similar thing, even though I'm just Dave. Now probably is not the time to bring out the empirical. Not everyone has the constitution for it.

Strong in Him said:
Well he obviously didn't.

Wait for it.

Strong in Him said:
I doubt it.
How can anyone "look ahead" to an event that will take place 250+ years after they are alive?

He did it.

There's multiple verifications. Newton would have loved to see one of our days. Especially 1969. That was rock and roll time for the signs.

Strong in Him said:
Default to for what?
People have been setting dates since forever; none have been correct.

So right now we're talking about 2060, 2040, 2030, 2026, 2025.

I default to the earliest date, that way I won't be late.

Strong in Him · Jul 6, 2025

Dave Watchman said:
But Newton knew more than any of us. And only God gives the wisdom to the wise, so I wouldn't be so quick to oppose Newton.

He knew more about physics than I do, that's for sure. But we weren't talking about that.
As for Christ's return: if he was a Christian, he's now with God. Not only is the earth still here but millions have been born and died since his day - Wesley, Spurgeon, Booth, John Wimber, Billy Graham, etc etc. Had it not been so, we wouldn't be here and we would never have heard the Gospel.

Dave Watchman said:
Newton wrote about something that happened in the 1500's, which would begin the countdown to 1969,

Like what?
What, and when, was the "countdown" to 1969, and what was supposed to have happened in that year?

Dave Watchman said:
and then 2018.

If there was a "countdown" to 1969, then 1969 was year zero - the year "it" should have happened.
And if by "it" he meant Jesus' return; it didn't happen. End of prophecy; false teacher.
Saying, "it'll happen in 1969, but if it doesn't, there's always 2018 - and then 2025 or 2026" is hedging one's bets, big time. Not that Newton would have been alive to see it anyway.
What was supposed to have happened in 2018?

Dave Watchman said:
And 2025, and 2026.

As "it" didn't happen on two of the dates that Newton spoke about, what makes you think the other two will be any more accurate?
And Newton isn't around to account for his teachings anyway.

Dave Watchman said:
In his note on Daniel 9 he wrote about another command to restore Jerusalem which would extend down to the end times:

In his opinion.

Dave Watchman said:
I actually don't want to know the day and hour. I would be satisfied with the year, or the season.

I don't believe we can know that either - supposing you never know?

Dave Watchman said:
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing:
but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

It's not "honour" to search out what God has chosen to conceal from us, it's pride. It's the earliest of sins; Lucifer thought he could become greater than God, Adam thought he could be like God, the builders of the tower of Babel likewise thought they could be like God. Centuries later, Herod refused to set people straight when they worshipped him as a God - and he was struck down and died.

Dave Watchman said:
I obviously agree. Not even the angels. Not even the Son of Man. But I bet Jesus knows it's getting very close now.

Conjecture.
There's no way you can make a bet with the Son of God over his return to earth.

Dave Watchman said:
Only the Father in Heaven can know the day and the hour.

Which was a Hebrew way of saying "you can never know." And it's not for us to know.

Dave Watchman said:
Because Jesus would never blot our names out from the Book of Life. But it was the Father Who wrote them in the Book in the first place from before the foundation of the universe. Some of those names are still coming through the pipeline now. We're just waiting for some of our brothers, and our fellow servants.

More conjecture.
How do you know people weren't saying the same things a century ago?

Dave Watchman said:
It did. Because even now, to this very day, Isaac Newton's note about 2060, is throwing people off.

What puts people off is that some - in the name of Christianity - make "predictions" which fail and make Christians look bad.

Dave Watchman said:
Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons wch God hath put into his own breast. - Isaac Newton

Exactly!
Newton himself said that we cannot know the times or seasons - although Jesus said it first.

Dave Watchman said:
Wait for it.

Well he's failed twice so far.

Dave Watchman said:
He did it.

No, he didn't.
A lot of OT prophets prophesied about the Messiah (Jesus') coming - but they didn't know when.
Moses didn't say "it will be 1000 years after I die, in the year ...." Nor did David, Isaiah or Jeremiah.
If there was supposed to have been a "countdown to 1969", that was 56 years ago. Even 2018 was 7 years ago. And there are only 5 months of this year left.

Dave Watchman said:
So right now we're talking about 2060, 2040, 2030, 2026, 2025.

You are, yes.

Dave Watchman said:
I default to the earliest date, that way I won't be late.

If you say so.
As long as you're not spending so much time looking into the sky that you miss what the Lord is doing on the ground.

Joseph G · Jul 7, 2025

cfposter said:
Jesus will return in Glory and Power in Sept of 2040. The days of Adam began in 3890 BC with Isaac born in 1910 BC, with the Exodus in 1479 BC. With the crossing of the Jordan in 1440 BC. With Solomon's Temple dedicated in 950 BC. With the destruction of that Temple in 530 BC. With the Resurrection of our Lord in 31 AD, and with the coming of the 121st Jubilee in Sept of 2040.

The intervals above are consistent with Jubilees and there are only 120 Jubilees given to the dominion of Man (Genesis 6:3). Time is short.

2040? Hot diggity dog, we got time yet to eat, drink and be merry while He tarry!

Seriously, one must be pretty special to be given a date when Jesus doesn't know it. But hey, that's His humility before His Father.

Truth is, Jesus is coming for us all the *instant* we breathe our last. Today is the end times for every individual, because tomorrow isn't guaranteed.

He is coming soon, indeed.

God bless!

Dave Watchman · Jul 12, 2025

Strong in Him said:
And he might have known more than many in his day - he could still be wrong.

If Newton can be wrong, not I, but my read on the materials, could be wrong as well. As I constantly review them, I can't see where my read is erroneous.

Strong in Him said:
So why did you say that he expected it to be around "our time, now"?

The first I ever heard it mentioned was on this Christian Forums. A member called Interplanner just asked a simple question about it in 2014. Sometimes these forums can be virtual idea factories.

Strong in Him said:
Like what?
What, and when, was the "countdown" to 1969, and what was supposed to have happened in that year?

It did happen. There's more than one source of archeological evidence.

Strong in Him said:
If there was a "countdown" to 1969, then 1969 was year zero - the year "it" should have happened.

I'm still very sure that it did happen. I constantly review the materials.

Strong in Him said:
What was supposed to have happened in 2018?

The end came.

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Thanks John. You can shake the dust off your sandals Brother. The end of the Gospel being preached by mankind, to the ends of the earth.. Then another John, John the Apostle, showed up to measure the Inner court. At that point the power was given to the Two Witnesses who stand before the Lord of the whole earth.

Strong in Him said:
Moses didn't say "it will be 1000 years after I die, in the year ...." Nor did David, Isaiah or Jeremiah.

Daniel did. He wrote that from the going forth of the decree to restore Jerusalem, it would be 7 and 62 weeks, until Messiah the Prince.

Strong in Him said:
If there was supposed to have been a "countdown to 1969", that was 56 years ago. Even 2018 was 7 years ago. And there are only 5 months of this year left.

Yes there are. So we must be getting close, or are even closer than we think. If it were to happen even before then, it would not surprise me. It must be happening now. Another guy writes the "weeks" has to do with the feast of weeks, of Shavuot, or Pentecost. That means into 2026? I don't know about that. I doubt it would be on an exact feast day. Pope Gregory switched New Years Day from April to January after our starting point, so it might go to April. I don't know about that. I wouldn't count on it.

I wrote a very long note on another forum last weekend with an update on the empirical. I noticed a new twist on the materials, even Newton had mentioned it as "the compass of a Jubilee". And on another little forum which has gone out of business, I remember a member writing how the prophetic time periods have been reversed in our end times and are a "reverse mirror image" of the originals. I see two reasons why this was done. Because the 69 week interval is already split up for us as 7 and 62 weeks, like Newton suggested, the time frames may be used individually, or interchangeably, with the 7 weeks preceding Messiah's second Visitation. Therefore being the "compass of a Jubilee."

One guy got mad, and among other things, accused me of having a "private interpretation". Lol. I don't think he understands what Paul meant when he wrote the private interpretation verse. Some translations are misleading. Paul wasn't talking about your, or my interpretation as readers of the Bible Prophecy, he was talking about the Bible writers of the prophecy, not having their own interpretation of it. Even the AI on my Brave Browser seems to get it wrong. AI just really is digesting what it sees already written which is popular on the Net. Private interpretation really means of "private origin".

Inn this case, KJV is best:

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

I mention this as it's a coincidence, Ebed did a fine explanation of "private interpretation" in the thread where Interplanner mentioned our starting point:

Daniel 9

The correct understanding is that the prophecy given in the Bible is not discernable in two ways. Its not mistakable. If you propose a contrary interpretation to another, one of you is wrong, if not both. The rest of what you said is a given.. That is not at all what it says...but if you...

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Interplanner Oct. 13, 2014:

Daniel 9

Doug, I know of no futurist comments on Lk 13's 'blessed is he...' that make any sense. It's postiioned half way through the ministry; he cannot and did not mean a distant prophecy moment; he meant what would happen that year. Give it a go.

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Peaceful Sabbath.

Dan Perez · Jul 12, 2025

Dave Watchman said:
If Newton can be wrong, not I, but my read on the materials, could be wrong as well. As I constantly review them, I can't see where my read is erroneous.

The first I ever heard it mentioned was on this Christian Forums. A member called Interplanner just asked a simple question about it in 2014. Sometimes these forums can be virtual idea factories.

It did happen. There's more than one source of archeological evidence.

I'm still very sure that it did happen. I constantly review the materials.

The end came.

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Thanks John. You can shake the dust off your sandals Brother. The end of the Gospel being preached by mankind, to the ends of the earth.. Then another John, John the Apostle, showed up to measure the Inner court. At that point the power was given to the Two Witnesses who stand before the Lord of the whole earth.

Daniel did. He wrote that from the going forth of the decree to restore Jerusalem, it would be 7 and 62 weeks, until Messiah the Prince.

Yes there are. So we must be getting close, or are even closer than we think. If it were to happen even before then, it would not surprise me. It must be happening now. Another guy writes the "weeks" has to do with the feast of weeks, of Shavuot, or Pentecost. That means into 2026? I don't know about that. I doubt it would be on an exact feast day. Pope Gregory switched New Years Day from April to January after our starting point, so it might go to April. I don't know about that. I wouldn't count on it.

I wrote a very long note on another forum last weekend with an update on the empirical. I noticed a new twist on the materials, even Newton had mentioned it as "the compass of a Jubilee". And on another little forum which has gone out of business, I remember a member writing how the prophetic time periods have been reversed in our end times and are a "reverse mirror image" of the originals. I see two reasons why this was done. Because the 69 week interval is already split up for us as 7 and 62 weeks, like Newton suggested, the time frames may be used individually, or interchangeably, with the 7 weeks preceding Messiah's second Visitation. Therefore being the "compass of a Jubilee."

One guy got mad, and among other things, accused me of having a "private interpretation". Lol. I don't think he understands what Paul meant when he wrote the private interpretation verse. Some translations are misleading. Paul wasn't talking about your, or my interpretation as readers of the Bible Prophecy, he was talking about the Bible writers of the prophecy, not having their own interpretation of it. Even the AI on my Brave Browser seems to get it wrong. AI just really is digesting what it sees already written which is popular on the Net. Private interpretation really means of "private origin".

Inn this case, KJV is best:

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

I mention this as it's a coincidence, Ebed did a fine explanation of "private interpretation" in the thread where Interplanner mentioned our starting point:

Daniel 9

The correct understanding is that the prophecy given in the Bible is not discernable in two ways. Its not mistakable. If you propose a contrary interpretation to another, one of you is wrong, if not both. The rest of what you said is a given.. That is not at all what it says...but if you...

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Interplanner Oct. 13, 2014:

Daniel 9

Doug, I know of no futurist comments on Lk 13's 'blessed is he...' that make any sense. It's postiioned half way through the ministry; he cannot and did not mean a distant prophecy moment; he meant what would happen that year. Give it a go.

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Peaceful Sabbath.

And Matt 24:36 and Mark 13:32 says that no one and not even the angels know when Christ is coming back!!
dan p

Strong in Him · Jul 13, 2025

Dave Watchman said:
If Newton can be wrong, not I, but my read on the materials, could be wrong as well.

Yes, Newton could have been wrong and yes it is a distinct possibility you could be wrong too.

Dave Watchman said:
As I constantly review them, I can't see where my read is erroneous.

Your reading may not be - your interpretation of what you are reading, could well be.

Dave Watchman said:
The first I ever heard it mentioned was on this Christian Forums. A member called Interplanner just asked a simple question about it in 2014.

I've been a member of this forum for 20 years. In that time, many people have given dates for Christ's return or played "spot the antichrist". All have been wrong.

Dave Watchman said:
It did happen. There's more than one source of archeological evidence.

What "did happen"? It wasn't Jesus' return, that's for sure.

Dave Watchman said:
The end came.

If the end had come 7 years ago, we wouldn't be here.

Dave Watchman said:
"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

The end of what?
And why do you say that happened in 2018?

Dave Watchman said:
Thanks John. You can shake the dust off your sandals Brother. The end of the Gospel being preached by mankind, to the ends of the earth.. Then another John, John the Apostle, showed up to measure the Inner court. At that point the power was given to the Two Witnesses who stand before the Lord of the whole earth.

I don't know what you mean by that.

Dave Watchman said:
Yes there are. So we must be getting close, or are even closer than we think.

Why?
The Apostles thought that Jesus was going to return in their lifetime. Almost 2000 years later, people are still saying that the end is near.

Dave Watchman said:
It must be happening now.

What must - Jesus must be returning to earth?
Why MUST it be happening?

Dave Watchman said:
I wrote a very long note on another forum last weekend with an update on the empirical. I noticed a new twist on the materials, even Newton had mentioned it as "the compass of a Jubilee". And on another little forum which has gone out of business, I remember a member writing how the prophetic time periods have been reversed in our end times and are a "reverse mirror image" of the originals. I see two reasons why this was done. Because the 69 week interval is already split up for us as 7 and 62 weeks, like Newton suggested, the time frames may be used individually, or interchangeably, with the 7 weeks preceding Messiah's second Visitation. Therefore being the "compass of a Jubilee."

I don't know what all that means.
I don't know why humans think they are able to work out God's timetable and know things that he has chosen not to reveal to us.

Dave Watchman said:
One guy got mad, and among other things, accused me of having a "private interpretation". Lol. I don't think he understands what Paul meant when he wrote the private interpretation verse.

I don't think any of you know what Jesus meant when he said that "no one knows the day or hour" - it certainly wasn't, "but you can, and should, work out the year or season."

Dave Watchman said:
Inn this case, KJV is best:

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The KJV that Jesus used?
I doubt it.

Dave Watchman said:
Daniel 9

The correct understanding is that the prophecy given in the Bible is not discernable in two ways. Its not mistakable. If you propose a contrary interpretation to another, one of you is wrong, if not both. The rest of what you said is a given.. That is not at all what it says...but if you...

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Interplanner Oct. 13, 2014:

Whatever someone said in 2014, it is now 2025.

Dave Watchman · Jul 14, 2025

Strong in Him said:
Yes, Newton could have been wrong and yes it is a distinct possibility you could be wrong too.

I'll be surprised if I am. Like newton said, "let time be the interpreter".

There's a few videos of this Young Hoon Kim fellow going around. More like videos of his video. The sub titles don't match his voice. I can understand him fine without them. But I agree with the Brother. He says: "He is at the door. "Jesus Christ is God, and He is returning now".

That's what I said in the thread. It has to be happening now.

He gives wisdom to the wise.

The world’s smartest man with a 276 confirmed IQ says that Jesus will return in our generation.

Jipsah · Jul 14, 2025

Dan Perez said:
And Matt 24:36 and Mark 13:32 says that no one and not even the angels know when Christ is coming back!!
dan p

That seems be a wildly unpopular Scripture.

Jipsah · Jul 14, 2025

Well, I hate to contradict one of my Korean brehtren, especially when he's the smartest dude on the planet, but he's contradicting our Lord. If I'm wrong, my bro can sort me out when we meet in Heaven.

Jipsah · Wednesday at 10:47 PM

Zceptre said:
I think a lot of people are going to be shocked just how soon it is going to happen. I'm not going to dive into the subject too deep, but I can say I am of the very strong opinion that at 2040 you are overshooting by leaps and bounds.

Been hearing that all my life, buy say on...

Zceptre said:
Just for anyone that isn't ready to go

THen you'd best be worrying abioyt dying, because there ain't no doubt that if the Lord doesn't tarry you're gonna do that, at which point if becomes utterly irrelevant to you when He returns to earth. Given that no one is guaranteed another living breath, it kinda behooves us to be ready now.

Zceptre said:
who may be reading these speculations, I would suggest having your bags packed (aka being/getting right with God through His Son Jesus) today.

Because, of course, if He isn't going to return soon, you won't hqave to worry about dying, because that never happens to Christians.

Zceptre said:
I wouldn't let anyone whisper a sense of complicity into you that there is "plenty of time"

Of course there's [planty of time! We're all gonna live forever if our Lord doesn't return. Nemmind car wrecks and cancer, heart attacks and aneurisms, pneumonia and diabetes, Alzheimers, C-Dif, falls down stairs, physical trauma of myriad sorts, as infinitum. And you're really worried about being ready when out Lord returns? How about being ready to die tomorrow! Let's face it, if the Lord is gonna return in September, it ain't gonna mean jack if you get hit by a bus in July,

Zceptre said:
before Christ Jesus returns for His bride.

That does seem to have a familar ring to it.

Zceptre said:
There are numerous signs and they all add up to what Christ described

Won't matter a bit to you if you're already dead.

Zceptre said:
, and yes... scoffers

I scoff at date setters. Y'all miss the point rather badly, don't you?

Zceptre said:
It is better to be safe than sorry, especially concerning our eternal soul.

Then you better be ready now! None of us is promised another living breath.

Zceptre said:
Plus, finding out you were late for this is the worst thing in life to ever be late for.

Then yiouy'd better be ready to die, now

Zceptre said:
The capital "T" Tribulation is not going to be a picnic.

If you live to see it. If not, you'd better have been ready before then, hadn't you?. At 72 years old with chronic heart failure, The Tribulation is the least of my worries. I wanna be one of those who rise first when He returns.

Zceptre said:
2040, I'm going to just give my simple vote on "nope." I think we need to be ready to ride a lot sooner.

LIke maybe now. Most of the date setters who've ever lived have since died, They'd best have been ready. "Oh, our Lord won't return until 2040" doesn't do them a hit of good now, does it?

Zceptre said:
Matthew 24:48
But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’

... and you might be dead tomorrow morning...

Zceptre said:
Revelations 16:15
“Behold, I am coming as a thief.

Kinda miltates against date setting, then, doesn't it? It's about being ready, come what may.

Zceptre said:
Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”

And who's ready to stand before God now.

Jipsah · Wednesday at 10:50 PM

cfposter said:
Jesus will return in Glory and Power in Sept of 2040.

Odds are I'll be dead long before then, so why should I care? I have to be ready now.

cfposter said:
The days of Adam began in 3890 BC with Isaac born in 1910 BC, with the Exodus in 1479 BC. With the crossing of the Jordan in 1440 BC. With Solomon's Temple dedicated in 950 BC. With the destruction of that Temple in 530 BC. With the Resurrection of our Lord in 31 AD, and with the coming of the 121st Jubilee in Sept of 2040.

Sure, why not?

Jipsah · Wednesday at 10:53 PM

JulieB67 said:
I think that the only generation that will certainly know it's close are when the signs that Christ laid out all come to pass.

And then you get hit by a bus and it renders all your calculations irrelevant.

Jipsah · Wednesday at 10:54 PM

cfposter said:
I'm sure the Devil wants everyone to believe we cannot know the day or hour but none of the verses quoted say we cannot know the day or hour.

Yeah, let's just ignore what our Lord said. Good plan, that.

JulieB67 · Thursday at 10:21 AM

Jipsah said:
And then you get hit by a bus and it renders all your calculations irrelevant.

Well then wouldn't matter regardless for that person either way. And it's not about calculations or trying to pin it down, It's about taking note of the signs that Christ lays out and telling us to watch as does Paul. Not in a crazy/obsessed way but just be mindful of the times and events that surround us.

And I still want to take Christ's words to heart when he states we can know how close summer is by the trees. In the same aspect -when someone sees the signs he lays out than they can know it's very near, at the door even. I believe he's talking about when one is in the tribulation. That is the specific generation he's talking about. It might not happen in our lifetime but it will to those during those times. And when it does they can lift up their heads and know it is near.

We should always be ready regardless. And heed the warnings by both Christ and Paul. Deception is the key at that point as they both warn.

Luke 21:28 "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Christ's words, not mine.

ETA And I'm of the belief that the fake one arrives before the true so that's why the warnings. To whomever will be here during that time. Wait and don't fall away to the fake believing he is the real one. Gospel armor on to be able to stand in the "evil day".

That's what one should always be ready for at all times. And according to both Christ and Paul that's not something to be taken lightly.

Date setting? No. Be ready at all times? Yes.

Dave Watchman · Friday at 5:59 AM

Jipsah said:
Of course there's [planty of time! We're all gonna live forever if our Lord doesn't return. Nemmind car wrecks and cancer, heart attacks and aneurisms, pneumonia and diabetes, Alzheimers, C-Dif, falls down stairs, physical trauma of myriad sorts, as infinitum. And you're really worried about being ready when out Lord returns? How about being ready to die tomorrow! Let's face it, if the Lord is gonna return in September, it ain't gonna mean jack if you get hit by a bus in July,

It's interesting you mention September. Some are saying Jesus could have been hinting that "no man can know the day or the hour" had to do with the Feast of Trumpets. Where two witnesses had to see the first sliver of the new moon. This year it's on 9/23.

Jipsah said:
If you live to see it. If not, you'd better have been ready before then, hadn't you?. At 72 years old with chronic heart failure, The Tribulation is the least of my worries. I wanna be one of those who rise first when He returns.

It would be fun if you could be here to see it. It probably doesn't matter because we who are here alive, still will not precede those who have fallen asleep. Hulk Hogan can still beat me in the rush to meet Jesus in the air.

Hulk looked pretty good in his last interview. It looked like they caught him at a gas station in the spring of 2025. He was promoting his new beer venture. He looked fine. He didn't have any earlobe crease, (Frank's sign). They said he went in for a neck surgery and was never able to speak again. After complications, they snuck his hospital bed back home.

Jipsah said:
Yeah, let's just ignore what our Lord said. Good plan, that.

Like Julie said up there, Jesus also said that when we see these things begin to take place know that He is near, even right at the door.

So if we can't KNOW the day or the hour, we can know that He is near, even right at the door. Like He's not walking down the road at the edge of town anymore. He's all the way past your street, turning up the driveway, and He's standing on the porch. He's right at the door. This is not talking about "if He knocks, will you let Him in. The context is of the second coming. That's not like years away anymore, when He's right at the door.. No time to start a company, no time to read a book.

If Hulk Hogan could have known that Jesus' second coming was close, or right at the door, this year, or even September, would it be a good idea to be going out just a handful of months before promoting a new beer startup?

Like right now, I myself wouldn't want to hop on a plane to France for the purpose of taking pictures of the Eiffel Tower.

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