Trump authorizes ICE to target schools, churches & hospitals for arrests of undocumented people

essentialsaltes · Jan 30, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Vice President JD Vance criticizes U.S. Catholic bishops condemning ICE entering churches and schools

Vance, Catholic bishops’ sparring on immigrants extends GOP’s feud with church

U.S. bishops have stepped gingerly into a disagreement with the Catholic vice president, which follows previous conflict between President Donald Trump and Pope Francis.

Multiple Catholic leaders expressed dismay after Vance, who is Catholic, questioned whether the church’s substantial, decades-long work with migrants is driven by a desire for money.

“That’s just scurrilous. It’s very nasty,” Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York City, who has given prayers at both of Donald Trump’s inaugurals, said of Vance’s comments on his SiriusXM Catholic Channel show Tuesday.

John Carr, who for two decades led the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ office on social justice efforts, said Vance’s criticisms “showed an unprecedented lack of respect for the work of the Catholic community, lack of restraint in promoting false and outrageous claims that the Church does this for the money and promotes human trafficking, and a lack of knowledge of Catholic teaching and ministry with refugees.”

The back-and-forth represented a new skirmish in a verbal war that reaches back to Trump’s first candidacy in 2016, when Pope Francis declared Trump “not Christian” for his proposal to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border to deter migrants. Trump responded by saying such criticism was “disgraceful.”

Catholic Charities has been criticized by some GOP lawmakers who saidleaders of the nonprofit organization should have to testify before Congress for allegedly fueling illegal immigration. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Georgia) said in 2023 that Catholic groups who help migrants are evidence of “Satan controlling the church.”

BPPLEE · Jan 30, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Vance, Catholic bishops’ sparring on immigrants extends GOP’s feud with church
U.S. bishops have stepped gingerly into a disagreement with the Catholic vice president, which follows previous conflict between President Donald Trump and Pope Francis.

Multiple Catholic leaders expressed dismay after Vance, who is Catholic, questioned whether the church’s substantial, decades-long work with migrants is driven by a desire for money.

“That’s just scurrilous. It’s very nasty,” Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York City, who has given prayers at both of Donald Trump’s inaugurals, said of Vance’s comments on his SiriusXM Catholic Channel show Tuesday.

John Carr, who for two decades led the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ office on social justice efforts, said Vance’s criticisms “showed an unprecedented lack of respect for the work of the Catholic community, lack of restraint in promoting false and outrageous claims that the Church does this for the money and promotes human trafficking, and a lack of knowledge of Catholic teaching and ministry with refugees.”

The back-and-forth represented a new skirmish in a verbal war that reaches back to Trump’s first candidacy in 2016, when Pope Francis declared Trump “not Christian” for his proposal to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border to deter migrants. Trump responded by saying such criticism was “disgraceful.”

Catholic Charities has been criticized by some GOP lawmakers who saidleaders of the nonprofit organization should have to testify before Congress for allegedly fueling illegal immigration. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Georgia) said in 2023 that Catholic groups who help migrants are evidence of “Satan controlling the church.”

Catholic Charities draws fire over video coaching illegal migrants on how to duck ICE workplace probes

“These nongovernmental organizations and Catholic charities have pushed a mind-blowing number of illegals into our country over the past four years,” said Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN).

nypost.com

Catholic charity uses taxpayer money for migrant plane tickets

Texas lawmakers on both sides of the aisle claim Catholic charity is misusing taxpayer funds to fly illegal migrants around U.S.

www.newsweek.com

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117010/documents/HHRG-118-GO06-20240321-SD006.pdf

dogs4thewin · Jan 30, 2025

seeking.IAM said:
There should be a merciful way of handling deportation without separating children from their families.

that is why I say give parents the option.

RileyG · Jan 30, 2025

KCfromNC said:
And yet your post quoted a post about a teacher asking ICE to raid their school.

Fine. It’s their parents that brought them here. Children can learn languages easier than adults because their brains are more “plastic.” I work in retail and I’ve seen plenty of children interpret for adults who don’t speak English.

Regardless, I still support a persons right to live where they want LEGALLY.

BPPLEE · Jan 31, 2025

SeekFirst0 said:
I get that, but we must always keep the mind of Christ in these things. Immigration laws need to be obeyed and respected, no question, but I feel like some can get carried away and be hostile and forgo the fruits of the Spirit when handling this situation. A country has a right to secure its borders.

The Biden administration lost over 300,000 immigrant children.

KCfromNC · Jan 31, 2025

RileyG said:
Fine. It’s their parents that brought them here. Children can learn languages easier than adults because their brains are more “plastic.” I work in retail and I’ve seen plenty of children interpret for adults who don’t speak English.

Regardless, I still support a persons right to live where they want LEGALLY.

More backtracking after the consequences of believing the talking points become uncomfortable. One would think eventually that would lead to a more critical view towards those providing those talking points.

RileyG · Jan 31, 2025

KCfromNC said:
More backtracking after the consequences of believing the talking points become uncomfortable. One would think eventually that would lead to a more critical view towards those providing those talking points.

I never said anyone made me uncomfortable. Good grief.

essentialsaltes · Feb 8, 2025

Trump-backing Latino evangelicals now feel 'devastated and abandoned' by him: report

many of these churches already feel "devastated and abandoned" by him after he signed an executive order authorizing Immigrations and Customers Enforcement to conduct immigration raids at schools and churches.

Although many Latino evangelicals believed that the Trump administration would only target people with criminal records for deportation, they've been surprised to learn that even some of their own pastors are now in the crosshairs.

Agustin Quiles, a spokesperson for the Florida Fellowship of Hispanic Councils and Evangelical Institutions, tells the AP that he's disturbed that the "messaging appears to be that anyone who is undocumented is a criminal" and he said that "we want to ask the president to reconsider because these actions are causing pain and trauma to so many families in and beyond our churches."

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essentialsaltes · Feb 12, 2025

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Quaker groups file suit over the end of policy restricting ICE arrests in houses of worship
The suit appears to be the first from a faith-based organization challenging the change in court.

27 religious groups sue to block immigration arrests at houses of worship

More than two dozen Christian and Jewish groups have filed a federal lawsuit over the Trump administration’s decision to overturn a long-standing policy that broadly restricted immigration agents from making arrests at churches and other “sensitive locations.”

The new lawsuit was filed by Christian and Jewish groups representing Reform Judaism, Episcopalians, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) and the African Methodist Episcopal Church — each with more than a million worshipers across the country — as well as other national and regional religious groups. [Also some Mennonites, Methodists, UUs and more.]

The case is the second filed by religious groups since the policy was issued; the first, filed last week in federal court in Maryland, was originally brought by five Quaker congregations and later joined by other groups including the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship and a Sikh temple.

essentialsaltes · Feb 25, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
27 religious groups sue to block immigration arrests at houses of worship
The case is the second filed by religious groups since the policy was issued; the first, filed last week in federal court in Maryland, was originally brought by five Quaker congregations and later joined by other groups including the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship and a Sikh temple.

Judge blocks ICE enforcement actions at churches, other houses of worship

U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang in Maryland ordered the Department of Homeland Security and its subdivision, ICE, not to conduct immigration enforcement actions "in or near any place of worship" associated with the case brought by Quakers, Baptists and Sikhs.

His order doesn't apply to arrests authorized by an administrative or judicial warrant.

essentialsaltes · Mar 13, 2025

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On the policy level, I think Homan has said that families will be able to choose whether to all be deported together, or separated by citizenship status.

U.S. citizen child recovering from brain cancer deported to Mexico with undocumented parents

The family’s ordeal began last month, when they were rushing from Rio Grande City, where they lived, to Houston, where their daughter’s specialist doctors are based, for an emergency medical checkup.

[Post-surgery] The swelling on the girl’s brain is still not fully gone, the mother said, causing difficulties with speech and mobility of the right side of her body. Before the family was removed from the U.S., the girl was routinely checking in with doctors monitoring her recovery, attending rehabilitation therapies and taking medication to prevent convulsions.

The parents had done the trip at least five other times in the past, passing through an immigration checkpoint every time without any issues, according to attorney Danny Woodward from the Texas Civil Rights Project, a legal advocacy and litigation organization representing the family. [On] previous occasions, the parents showed letters from their doctors and lawyers to the officers at the checkpoint to get through.

But now we got quotas to fill.

Oh, and an answer to my previous question:

Not clear there, either, about where the kids would go if they choose to be separated. Could the parents nominate a guardian, or will Uncle Sam?

Without a power-of-attorney document or a guardianship outlining who will take care of the children left behind, the children go into the U.S. foster care system, making it harder for the parents to regain custody of their children in the future.

essentialsaltes · Apr 10, 2025

Federal officials [with no warrant] arrived, denied entry at L.A. schools amid immigration enforcement fears

On Monday, two individuals arrived at Lillian Street Elementary School’s main office and identified themselves as “representatives of a federal agency,” according to a message school officials sent to parents and others. Individuals also showed up at Russell Elementary School. Both schools are located in South Los Angeles’ Florence-Graham neighborhood.

On Wednesday, an LAUSD spokesperson confirmed the individuals were from the Homeland Security Investigations unit within the Department of Homeland Security, not agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement. District officials did not say why the individuals were there or release additional details about the visit.

The district has mandated employees receive training about what assistance or documentation they cannot or should not provide to federal immigration authorities.

essentialsaltes · Apr 11, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Judge blocks ICE enforcement actions at churches, other houses of worship
U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang in Maryland

In February, a federal judge in Maryland ruled against the Trump administration in a similar case brought by a coalition of Quakers and other religious groups. U.S. District Judge Theodore Chang’s order in that case was limited to those plaintiffs.

[but now]

Federal judge refuses to block immigration enforcement operations in houses of worship

U.S. District Judge Dabney Friedrich in Washington handed down the ruling in a lawsuit filed by more than two dozen Christian and Jewish groups representing millions of Americans.

essentialsaltes · Wednesday at 10:36 PM

Sacramento Bishop backs San Bernardino diocese in urging immigrants to skip Mass amid ICE fears

John Andrews is the vice chancellor of the San Bernardino diocese and said that Bishop Alberto Rojas wrote the decree last month after several arrests on church grounds, including one case in which a parishioner was arrested while doing landscaping work there.

"This man was a long-time parishioner of our Lady of Lourdes, the whole family involved in the church, good family, hard working, not the kind of people that have been characterized as being the priority of this kind of immigration enforcement," Andrews said.

In January, President Trump revoked a Biden-era policy that prevented arrests at houses of worship.

GoldenBoy89 · Wednesday at 11:15 PM

essentialsaltes said:
Sacramento Bishop backs San Bernardino diocese in urging immigrants to skip Mass amid ICE fears

John Andrews is the vice chancellor of the San Bernardino diocese and said that Bishop Alberto Rojas wrote the decree last month after several arrests on church grounds, including one case in which a parishioner was arrested while doing landscaping work there.

"This man was a long-time parishioner of our Lady of Lourdes, the whole family involved in the church, good family, hard working, not the kind of people that have been characterized as being the priority of this kind of immigration enforcement," Andrews said.

In January, President Trump revoked a Biden-era policy that prevented arrests at houses of worship.

Government forces suppressing religious freedom should be a really big story on this Christian website.

essentialsaltes · 2025-07-11T09:12:20-0500

essentialsaltes said:
Sacramento Bishop backs San Bernardino diocese in urging immigrants to skip Mass amid ICE fears

John Andrews is the vice chancellor of the San Bernardino diocese and said that Bishop Alberto Rojas wrote the decree last month after several arrests on church grounds,

A crisis of faith: ICE raids force some churches to take ‘extraordinary’ action

[Story leads with the above]

In May, following immigration raids in Nashville, the city’s diocese became the first to say that no Catholic would be “obligated to attend Mass on Sunday if doing so puts their safety at risk.”

It’s a rare step for a bishop to excuse congregants indefinitely from Sunday mass, said Brett Hoover, professor of theology at Loyola Marymount University.

Archbishop José Gomez of the Los Angeles Archdiocese, who has long called for immigration reform, criticized the Trump administration in a column published in Angelus last month, saying it has “offered no immigration policy beyond the stated goal of deporting thousands of people each day.”

“This is not policy, it is punishment, and it can only result in cruel and arbitrary outcomes. Already we are hearing stories of innocent fathers and mothers being wrongly deported, with no recourse to appeal,” he wrote.

In Orange County, Bishop Kevin Vann has not offered a dispensation from attending Mass, but the diocese has started bringing Holy Communion to celebrate Mass in the homes of people who are afraid to go to church.

[Neat, kinda like house churches in China under the CCP!]

Isiah, who had paused attending Mass during the raids, said church is really the only place he feels safe anymore. He has faith that the spiritual strength found inside the building — a place where he goes to worship God — will shield him from harm.

“My belief is that if the police came, the church and God would protect me.”

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