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Darwinian evolution - still a theory in crisis.

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If that's the case, then probably. Though when did you start reading minds?

When I figured one poster would go 404 after challenging me to defend my stance that I'm not a YEC.

I accepted his challenge, but knew what would happen.

Anyone else who thinks I'm a YEC want to take his place?

Let's talk.
 
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When I figured one poster would go 404 after challenging me to defend my stance that I'm not a YEC.

I accepted his challenge, but knew what would happen.

Anyone else who thinks I'm a YEC want to take his place?

Let's talk.
I've got to give it to you, you're amusing in your brazen sense of pride.
 
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I'll wait.
It would be much faster if you simply told us how old you think the Earth is, and then examine wither it is "young" on a geological scale or not. Whatever happened to "let your 'yes' be 'yes' and your 'no' be 'no'."?
 
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It would be much faster if you simply told us how old you think the Earth is, and then examine wither it is "young" on a geological scale or not. Whatever happened to "let your 'yes' be 'yes' and your 'no' be 'no'."?

It's as old as God willed it, when He created it.

Let's go with 100,000 years old, and see where this goes.
 
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It's as old as God willed it, when He created it.

Let's go with 100,000 years old, and see where this goes.
I suppose that's a start, so how does it compare with estimates from geology? Seems that 100,000 would qualify as young considering its several orders of magnitude off from the 4.5 billion that estimates based on the geologic record hold.
 
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I suppose that's a start, so how does it compare with estimates from geology? Seems that 100,000 would qualify as young considering its several orders of magnitude off from the 4.5 billion that estimates based on the geologic record hold.

Now who's being coy?
 
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But if you'd like to tell us about it, maybe we'd see a difference.

Ya -- maybe.
So tell us about it. Show us what the difference is. I'm thinking there's a good reason you're reluctant to tell us, whatever it is.

On the other hand, if you'd rather not lay it out, that's O.K., too. What's it going to be?
 
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But if you'd like to tell us about it, maybe we'd see a difference.

Maybe.

So tell us about it.

How old do I say the earth is?

Show us what the difference is.

In my conversation with Fervent, the difference is 94,000 years.

I'm thinking there's a good reason you're reluctant to tell us, whatever it is.

How old do I say the earth is?

On the other hand, if you'd rather not lay it out, that's O.K., too. What's it going to be?

Let me make this easier for you.

How old do I say the earth isn't?

I'll even make it multiple choice:
  1. 100,000 years
  2. 4.543 billion years
  3. 13.7 billion years
  4. 6100 years
 
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100,000 years is about ten times what most YECs would say.
And the evidence is for an Earth about 45,000 times your estimate.
So is there any actual meaningful difference between your beliefs and those of most YECs?

But now you seem to have reversed that position.
Is there anything you actually believe with enough confidence to state it here?
 
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100,000 years is about ten times what most YECs would say.
And the evidence is for an Earth about 45,000 times your estimate.
So is there any actual meaningful difference between your beliefs and those of most YECs?

^_^ -- Wow!

You'll do anything, including make yourself look ... well like this ... to keep from admitting you're wrong, won't you?

AI Overview, Wikipedia, simple math -- once you think I'm a YEC, there's no changing your mind, is there?

Oh well.

We'll let the readers decide.
 
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^_^ -- Wow!

You'll do anything, including make yourself look ... well like this ... to keep from admitting you're wrong, won't you?

AI Overview, Wikipedia, simple math -- once you think I'm a YEC, there's no changing your mind, is there?

Oh well.

We'll let the readers decide.
If it quacks....
 
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It sounds like someone intent on obfuscation, wonder why?
In Western rodeos there is a performer known as a rodeo clown. He is dressed as clown more or less and he scampers around the ring doing funny things, but that's not his real job. His real job is to step in when a rider is thrown or gets into some other trouble. On foot, he has to protect the rider and try to divert an angered animal until more help can arrive. Something similar happens here when a biblical creationist gets in over his head. Have you noticed?
 
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