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Human reading bible does not equal God speaking

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In the three temptations of Christ in the desert, the devil quoted scripture and Jesus responded with scripture .

Since in this case of the devil quoting scripture did not upgrade him to "God" - the same applies to humans.

As the scripture says about itself, it is useful - However, reading it does not make them God.
 

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In the three temptations of Christ in the desert, the devil quoted scripture and Jesus responded with scripture .

Since in this case of the devil quoting scripture did not upgrade him to "God" - the same applies to humans.

As the scripture says about itself, it is useful - However, reading it does not make them God.
The devil read the Scripture out of context, we can also do that when we do not let God's Word interpret itself. Most of the Bible is very plain and the areas that are not, are usually found in the rest of Scripture.
 
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In the three temptations of Christ in the desert, the devil quoted scripture and Jesus responded with scripture .

Since in this case of the devil quoting scripture did not upgrade him to "God" - the same applies to humans.

As the scripture says about itself, it is useful - However, reading it does not make them God.
I think that post lacks necessary context.
 
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In the three temptations of Christ in the desert, the devil quoted scripture and Jesus responded with scripture .

Since in this case of the devil quoting scripture did not upgrade him to "God" - the same applies to humans.

As the scripture says about itself, it is useful - However, reading it does not make them God.
Who said it did?

And your post does not tie up with the title of your thread, which is;

Human reading bible does not equal God speaking​

We believe God can speak to us through his word and his Spirit. Neither means that we become God.
 
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I'm a bit surprised that you're getting pushback on this...though not entirely, given that your post implicitly challenges one of the extrabiblical doctrines that unites most Protestants and was so essential to the Protestant reformation.
 
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Live in this question, next time you get into a debate with a "this is what God says" person .. ask it again.
I'm not quite sure what you mean.
Saying, "this is what God says", and "I read what God says, therefore I am God", are two completely different things. I don't believe any Christian would say that they are God.
 
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I'm not quite sure what you mean.
Saying, "this is what God says", and "I read what God says, therefore I am God", are two completely different things. I don't believe any Christian would say that they are God.
He's talking about people who insist that their interpretation and the word of God are identical, especially the variety who plead "I'm not judging you, it's just what the Bible says!"
 
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He's talking about people who insist that their interpretation and the word of God are identical, especially the variety who plead "I'm not judging you, it's just what the Bible says!"
Ok, thanks.
Though he also said;
Since in this case of the devil quoting scripture did not upgrade him to "God" - the same applies to humans.

As the scripture says about itself, it is useful - However, reading it does not make them God.
When did any Christian ever claim that reading Scripture made them God?
 
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Ok, thanks.
Though he also said;

When did any Christian ever claim that reading Scripture made them God?
I took that as hyperbole, though I suppose there is room to interpret him as meaning it literally.
 
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In the three temptations of Christ in the desert, the devil quoted scripture and Jesus responded with scripture .

Since in this case of the devil quoting scripture did not upgrade him to "God" - the same applies to humans.

As the scripture says about itself, it is useful - However, reading it does not make them God.
No of course not, but of what's been written, scripture is of the highest authority. Meaning scripture carries greater authority than so-in-so's doctrine, or what was established in writing by a counsel, or a catechism and similar.

The only ones I can see disagreeing with that, are those who hold to things that scripture doesn't support. Like "You must be baptized in three seperate pools of hot water, cold water, and salt water" as a hypothetical example.
 
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Ok, thanks.
Though he also said;

When did any Christian ever claim that reading Scripture made them God?
The claim is implied in the demanding attitude.
 
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No of course not, but of what's been written, scripture is of the highest authority. Meaning scripture carries greater authority than so-in-so's doctrine, or what was established in writing by a counsel, or a catechism and similar.

The only ones I can see disagreeing with that, are those who hold to things that scripture doesn't support. Like "You must be baptized in three seperate pools of hot water, cold water, and salt water" as a hypothetical example.
All scripture is God breathed and useful.

All scripture likewise must be interpreted by a human before being read.

As the scripture also says May God be true and every man a liar.

Thus people may read the word of God out loud, but it is just a re-phrasing of their ideas using cutouts of scripture.

The scripture also says "there is no God" does this mean, there is no God? no, this just reflects whoever believes that "is a fool" to take the verse in context.
 
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In the three temptations of Christ in the desert, the devil quoted scripture and Jesus responded with scripture .

Since in this case of the devil quoting scripture did not upgrade him to "God" - the same applies to humans.

As the scripture says about itself, it is useful - However, reading it does not make them God.
God's Words do exactly as He Alone Determines, regardless of the handlers

For example, IF God says, and He did say, that man shall LIVE by every Word of God, Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, and Deut. 8:3, THEN that is exactly what will happen whether we read it, happen to see it, understand it or don't even see or hear of it.

Additionally anyone reading or saying the Word by automatic default only understands in part anyway. No one is capable in this present life of full and complete understandings. So any claim we hear, any doctrinal positions that are made, are in fact still far far short of the Glory of God by virtue of the imperfect handlers, purveyors and hearers. And probably for our own good, as the whole of what God is would be too much for anyone. Probably also why He keeps a low profile.

God said do not work on the Sabbath, with an exception clause that over rode that command, though it's unspoken i.e. do no work, but these guys can work, and it's OK for them to work, but not for everyone else.

Matthew 12:5
Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Short version: Not all is as it appears on the surface
 
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I doubt that.
I read God's word, buy I'm certainly not God.
So when people quote certain passages and say women shouldn't be pastors and just won't let it go. Keep quoting 2 Tim 3:16 heresy heresy, ad nausium.

Does this ring any bells?

I think it has more to do with expecting someone to do what you say just because you quoted the bible. If you don't understand, then that's fine too.
 
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