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But the bible say the fallen angels came down, 200 of them and took wives and begot children with them, who became the mighty men of renown, the nephilim giants.
Where does is say that 200 fallen angels came to earth, took wives and had children? I know that Genesis 6 says:

“Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.” (Ge 6:1-2 NKJV)

But that doesn't mention "fallen angels" or "200." Perhaps you were thinking of another passage, but I cannot think which one.
 
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the 200 book of enoch but as you can see the bible state the rest
As you imply, the book of Enoch is not in the bible. I cannot see that "the bible states the rest." It says "The sons of God." It doesn't say they were fallen angels. Indeed, the idea that fallen angels should be called "Sons of God," when fallen humans are called sons of the devil by Jesus seems very strange to me. That's apart from the biblical teaching that angels, although sometimes appearing to humans in visible form, are spiritual beings.
 
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As you imply, the book of Enoch is not in the bible. I cannot see that "the bible states the rest." It says "The sons of God." It doesn't say they were fallen angels. Indeed, the idea that fallen angels should be called "Sons of God," when fallen humans are called sons of the devil by Jesus seems very strange to me. That's apart from the biblical teaching that angels, although sometimes appearing to humans in visible form, are spiritual beings.
But it say they came down from heaven i.e fallen angels
 
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But it say they came down from heaven i.e fallen angels
It doesn't. Here are the verses again:

“Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.” (Ge 6:1-2 NKJV)

Nothing about them coming down from heaven.
 
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It doesn't. Here are the verses again:

“Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.” (Ge 6:1-2 NKJV)

Nothing about them coming down from heaven.
The sons of God, i.e not from here
 
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The sons of God, i.e not from here
That is just not so. All Christians are described as sons of God. For example, in Galatians:

“But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!” Therefore you are no longer a slave but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.” (Ga 4:4-7 NKJV)

The end of Luke's human genealogy of Jesus says that Adam was a son of God:

“the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son]- of God.” (Lu 3:38 NKJV)

Adam wasn't a fallen angel, was he? Nor are Christians fallen angels. Yet both Adam and Christians are called sons of God in Scripture.
 
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what does it matter when everyone knows they mated with humans and came down
They didnt though. Thats your interpretation of said scripture!!
 
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what does it matter when everyone knows they mated with humans and came down
But everybody does NOT know that they (fallen angels) mated with humans. The passage in Genesis 6 says nothing about fallen angels mating with humans. Indeed, as we are told in scripture:

““For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.” (Mt 22:30 NKJV)

Now granted that is talking about the angels in heaven, but the notion that the angels who fell suddenly changed and became able to mate with humans is not backed up by Scripture.
 
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I cannot see that "the bible states the rest." It says "The sons of God." It doesn't say they were fallen angels. Indeed, the idea that fallen angels should be called "Sons of God," when fallen humans are called sons of the devil by Jesus seems very strange to me.

We know that the sons of God were the fallen angels from the book of Job.

In Job 1:6, the "sons of God" are generally understood to be angels, who are part of God's heavenly court. The passage describes them presenting themselves before the Lord, with Satan also among them. This interpretation is consistent with other biblical passages where the phrase "sons of God" refers to angelic beings.
 
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We know that the sons of God were the fallen angels from the book of Job.

In Job 1:6, the "sons of God" are generally understood to be angels, who are part of God's heavenly court. The passage describes them presenting themselves before the Lord, with Satan also among them. This interpretation is consistent with other biblical passages where the phrase "sons of God" refers to angelic beings.
Thanks for that. Satan in Job 1 seems to have been an interloper. What business did the chief of fallen angels have being in heaven's court? Besides, that doesn't make angels able to have sexual intercourse with human women.
 
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That text has multiple layers of symbolism, not all render that notion obvious. "Sons of god" knowing "daughters of men" can have multiple interpretations other than "angels procreating with women."

And angels, owing to their nature, can't actually breed with human beings. Jesus himself says angels don't reproduce (Matt 22:30).
He said they don't, he didn't say they can't
 
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What business did the chief of fallen angels have being in heaven's court? Besides, that doesn't make angels able to have sexual intercourse with human women.

This is not what it says in Genesis 6.

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
 
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This is not what it says in Genesis 6.

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the ones you marry you procreate with and it say they begot the men of renown, the nephilim that say it all
 
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But everybody does NOT know that they (fallen angels) mated with humans. The passage in Genesis 6 says nothing about fallen angels mating with humans. Indeed, as we are told in scripture:

““For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.” (Mt 22:30 NKJV)

Now granted that is talking about the angels in heaven, but the notion that the angels who fell suddenly changed and became able to mate with humans is not backed up by Scripture.
I wonder why you question scripture if you are a christian you should KNOW they mated with women
 
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I wonder why you question scripture if you are a christian you should KNOW they mated with women
I don't "question scripture." Scripture says:

“Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they [were] beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.” (Ge 6:1-2 NKJV)

It doesn't mention fallen angels having sex with women. That is an interpretation of Scripture, not Scripture itself. I agree with those who like John Gill in his commentary, says: "Those "sons of God" were not angels either good or bad, as many have thought, since they are incorporeal beings, and cannot be affected with fleshly lusts, or marry and be given in marriage, or generate and be generated; nor the sons of judges, magistrates, and great personages, nor they themselves, as the Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan, and so Jarchi and Aben Ezra; but this could be no crime in them, to look upon and take in marriage such persons, though they were the daughters of the meaner sort; and supposing they acted a criminal part in looking at them, and lusting after them, and committing fornication with them, and even in marrying irreligious persons; yet this could only be a partial, not an universal corruption, as is after affirmed, though such examples must indeed have great influence upon the populace; but rather this is to be understood of the posterity of Seth, who from the times of Enos, when then began to be called by the name of the Lord, Ge 4:25 had the title of the sons of God, in distinction from the children of men; these claimed the privilege of divine adoption, and professed to be born of God, and partakers of his grace, and pretended to worship him according to his will, so far as revealed to them, and to fear and serve and glorify him."

Jamieson, Fausset and Brown say: "By the former (sons of God) is meant the family of Seth, who were professedly religious; by the latter, the descendants of apostate Cain. Mixed marriages between parties of opposite principles and practice were necessarily sources of extensive corruption. The women, religious themselves, would as wives and mothers exert an influence fatal to the existence of religion in their household, and consequently the people of that later age sank to the lowest depravity."

Indeed, I have looked at 8 different commentaries, and none of them mention the sons of God being fallen angels.
 
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