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Yes, that's grace, something the law could not otherwise do on its own.
He didn't; man broke the old covenant, not Him, and now He replaced His old covenant with a new, superior one, established on better promises as there was still something wrong with the old. With that change, a new, right way, of observing the law was iniated.
We are living in grace because all have sinned.
Of course
The only reason God made a new covenant, was because man broke it, the fault was with them, not God's law. God's law is perfect for converting the soul Psa 19:7 , He makes no mistakes we do
The only change in the law was the placement. From tables of stone to tablets of the hearts, God keeping His promise not to alter His words, not a jot or tittle. The change in God's times and laws came from man, just as we were warned would happen Dan 7:25 that sadly most follow instead of being faithful to God Eze 20:20
No, that's a misunderstanding or stunted understanding of grace. Grace is more than favor and forgiveness, but His own life in us, enabling and empowering us to fulfill the law now.
And yet it was lacking, intended to serve a different purpose than actually effecting righteousness in us. The law tells us what that righteousness "looks like" and rightfully demands, but in order to accomplish that in us we need more than a moral code; one more thing is necessary, the life of the Trinity within us-which is how we're meant to exist to begin with.
And so Jesus didn't alter the law; again, He showed and gave us the right way to fulfill it, by the Spirit. And in that Spiritual vein Sunday continues to fulfill the moral command of the OC. The early church did not abandon one command while for some reason still vehemently insisting on the observance of the others.
Can you provide a verse that says this
I can only go by what the Scriptures teach and I provided them and they show clearly where the fault was, not God's law which is perfect Psa 19:7 holy righteous and good Rom 7:12, the law was and is not the issue, we are. God loves us so much instead of discarding us, He enables us to keep His law through being connected to Him and His Spirit John 15:5-10 1 John 3:24 John 14:15-18 and forgives us through the blood and His great Sacrifice. But no one in Christ is not keeping His law or is unwilling to keep it John 15:10 1 John 3:24 , God's version, not mans
Of course not, its what I have been saying
The Spirit is not against God's law, they work in harmony
You have this backwards. Colossians 3:6 says " the wrath of God cometh on
The point is that grace opposes and helps us to overcome sin; it’s not just about God’s favor or forgiveness but about the fruit of a relationship consisting of the branch being grafted into the Vine. Theologians have long recognized an intrinsic connection between grace, the Holy Spirit, and love.
Yep- they're not in conflict in any case. When one is led by the Spirit they can and should obey the law without even needing to hear it.
You're already believing traditions of men, supported and affirmed by your own private intepretations of a Book centuries after the fact. It's not just Rome-it's all the early churches east and west that inherited this Tradition of God regarding Sunday observance.
None of these verses says grace is God's law in our heart.
Please do not tell me what I believe. This is what your church teaches, but not what I believe.
Here's quotes from various Catholic resources on what they believe when Protestants worship on Sunday instead of keeping the Sabbath commandment.
They mean that both grace and the indwelling of God, not uncoincidentally, mean more than divine favor and the forgiveness of sin but also the ability to overcome sin and produce good fruit.
I could care less what individual Catholics say on the matter. They can take all the “credit” they want-and it’s not a bad thing that the CC eventually made the practice official doctrine- but anyone interested in historical TRUTH knows that the practice didn’t begin later on with the Big Bad Catholic Church but at the beginning with a rag tag persecuted church, often martyred, virtually unanimously across the church world wherever that may be, meaning in the eastern church as well that practiced according to its own received teachings.
This is self-serving speculation. The Sabbath issue was hardly even a consideration, while the chief Reformers considered Sabbath observance to be part of Jewish ceremonial law. And, yes, you believe a tradition of 19th century men and women, false visionaires and prophets looking to distinguish themselves from the rest of the crowd, and haven't accepted the faith of Christianity in its fullness. At least SDAs accepted the doctrine of the Trinity while the JWs who sprang from the same adventist bible study root did not.
The observance of the Lord's Day (Sunday) is founded not on any command of God, but on the authority of the Church." Augsburg Confession of Faith.
He certainly didn't believe he was abrogating the law when he wrote the Large Catechism in 1529, with the first part addressing the third commandment according to his numbering:
Like I said the Reformers were coming out of their false teachings that were being handed down to them.
Well, that's a convenient enough construction for some to believe, I guess. The truth is that Christianity, from the beginning, gave little to no weight to days, including the seventh day, while transferring that observance to the first day, the Lord's Day. And we can speculate as to why but the testimony of history only supports this fact while little controversy arises from earliest times. Passages such as Romans 14:1-9, Galatians 4:10, Colossians 2:16, and Hebrews 4:3-10 suggest that the law was now regarded in a wholly different manner, with freedom from laws that pertain not only to circumcision and diet, as examples, but also to days, a freedom that allowed Christianity's most important day, Sunday, to be elevated above the seventh day as they saw fit in order to give devotion to God, with seventh day observance simply no longer mandated even as it was still seen as acceptable.
Your church already teaches the Sabbath being transferred to Sunday, is not biblical, but based on their authority over the authority of God's Word. None of the verses you quoted abrogate the 4th commandment on God's Authority and command Sunday as a new day of worship. We can make the bible say anything by plucking a verse out of its context, but its not God's Truth. If we can't believe God's own personal Testimony Exo 31:18 Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18 written personally by God, then just throw out our Bibles, because that's what the whole bible is about, the testimony of the prophets and apostles of Jesus Christ. If we can't believe God's own Testimony, nothing else the Bible says will matter. Mat 4:4
The church teaches no such thing. Any such authority only comes from God's Word, whether recorded or handed down orally. The churches didn't just do this cavalierly or in a vacuum. Related to this, all the ancient churches, for example, teach baptismal regeneration while the bible can be plausibly enough argued for or against. Such concepts were hardly if ever even controversial within the church until the advent of Sola Scriptura. Scripture, alone, by itself, doesn't always render God's will clearly and exhaustively which is why there's so much disagreement on many matters, and why there are so many denominations with SDA being just one more that goes by Scripture alone while disagreeing with the next guy going by Scripture alone. This is why the ancient churches also take into acount and hold to their Traditions/teachings that were part of their lived legacy since the beginning-rather than picking up a book 1800-2000 years later and presuming to know and understand with certainty everything it means to say regarding God's will for man.
Jesus showed us how to make the devil flee, not with force or arguments, but with truth, obedience, and faith. When Satan tempted Him in the wilderness, Jesus didn’t respond with His own words. He answered with Scripture, saying “It is written,” each time. He reminded the devil that man lives by every word from God, that we must not test the Lord, and that only God deserves worship. He stayed humble, trusted the Father, and refused to give in, even when the devil promised Him the kingdoms of the world. Because of this, the devil had to leave.
It is God who asked His people, the true believers, to honour the seventh day sabbath, exactly as you said to distinguish His people from the rest of the crowd! it is a sign between God and His people.
No
You are giving the SDA's way too much credit. We were not around at Creation when God created the Sabbath as it was always part of God's will and perfect plan and He makes no mistakes, we do. Why it continues for eternity, Isa 66:23 just as God promised.
I wouldn’t tend to give much praise to anyone who’d presume to know and dictate how the early church should’ve lived out “the new way of the Spirit, and not the old way of the written code”. But aside from SDA presumption-since they weren't around at the first Advent either- we at least have some biblical and historical testimony of what the early church actually did- and why they did it that way.
There are over a billion people identifying as Catholics so no doubt your religion, like others, gets a fair amount of ex-Catholics. Catholics get converts from many religions, a number of real Bible experts eventually convert to Catholicism. I remember one SDA convert to Catholicism talking about the SDA control of the cultural aspect of SDA lives which she was happy to divest herself from. Also as I recall SDAs don't believe people alive have a soul, but they make exceptions for Moses and Elijah. Do I recall correctly?
