Why People Believe The Earth is Flat

didactics said:

My understanding of it is that perhaps Matthew and Mark were emphasizing the compassion he had for the man, but in all likeliness he probably did just refer to him as "man".

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So, one of the gospels claims that Jesus said "son/child", even though He did not?

trophy33 said:

So, one gospel claims that Jesus said "son/child", even though He did not?

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Yes, but I don't think it amounts to a direct contradiction or error. It seems you are trying to extrapolate from this that this amounts to a historical error to show that scientific errors can exist as well. But I don't see the parallel. The gospels still harmonize and these differences don't change the story. I see it more as a different point of focus.

As far as scientific errors I'm not sure if any exist. I know that some say that there is reference to a solid firmament; I don't know if this is true or not as I have not studied the original language. But I don't know why that matters, because the "celestial waters" could have been poetic language. It was only ever mentioned that the "windows of heaven" opened during the flood, but other places of scripture seem to indicate that the writers did know that rain falls from clouds (such as Ecclesiastes 11:3-4).

didactics said:

Yes, but I don't think it amounts to a direct contradiction or error.

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If Bible says "Jesus said A", but He did not, what it is if not an error? How do you know other verses in the Bible are without error?

trophy33 said:

If Bible says "Jesus said A", but He did not, what it is if not an error? How do you know other verses in the Bible are without error?

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I think it goes back to prophecy. We know that the Bible speaks for itself because countless prophecies came to pass. In that sense it makes the Bible self-authenticating. I call them differences not errors or apparent contradictions not contradictions. When it is carefully looked into it can usually be understood why they exist.

Apple Sky said:

Absolutely ridiculous this is just ludicrous & absurd, how can you believe such nonsense ?

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What exactly makes it nonsense?

Apple Sky said:

This is a difficlt one for me as yes I do believeve that all astronauts to be fairy tale tellers.

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Including those like Charlie Duke who are your fellow Christians? Shame on you!

Apple Sky said:

Well at least I try to explain stuff which is more than can be said about you, you just around contradicting everyone on other threads too.

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Strong in Him does not " just around contradicting everyone." This is a forum for discussion, so it is hardly surprising that he and other posters sometimes write things that you don't agree with. But that works both ways - you contradict her (and me, and Prodomos, and Charlie Duke, and everyone else who doesn't believe that the earth is a flat disc, that Antarctica circumferences the earth or who believes that astronauts have been to the moon.)

Apple Sky said:

No I never,

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Yes, you really did, and you can't see it.

You wrote on this forum that Flat Earth was a lot of nonsense.
You said that it would be hard to accept a globe earth having not believed it for so long but that you would ask God to help you.
You said, again, that with God's help you would get there.
That was your public testimony: flat earth is a load of nonsense, I need God's help to be able to accept a globe earth, he'll be there for me and I'll get through it.

But you didn't.
One YouTube video and instead of asking God to help you to reject it/not watch it/stick to your word you said, "yay, I'm back on track; globe earth is a load of nonsense."
You publicly said you would ask God for help, but you didn't. 2 Timothy 2:12: "if we disown him, he will also disown us".

You're apologising to God for doubting the Earth was flat - who cares? God doesn't.
What's far more serious is that you wrote a prayer on here in which you said sorry to God for doubting the moon landings, and yet you are now saying that your fellow Christians are liars and storytellers.
You don't get - or haven't read - the Scriptures which say that if anyone doesn't accept, speaks against or persecutes a disciple of Jesus, they are rejecting Jesus too. A Christian is someone who is born again, who accepts Jesus as their Saviour and Lord, who is filled with God's Holy Spirit and therefore has God inside them. A Christian is IN Christ, John 15:1-5. A Christian has been reconciled to God, is a member of his family and his child. You and Charles Duke have the same heavenly Father; you have both been saved, forgiven and blessed. And what is your reaction to your brother in Christ? "He's a storyteller who was paid to say what he did".
Have you also read the Scripture that says, "whoever says they love God but hates their brother or sister is a liar"? 1 John 4:19. You haven't met Charles Duke, but you watched his testimony and "honestly" believed him. God and read 1 John 4 - "whoever does not love his brother whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen", 1 John 4:20.

I don't believe that you'll give a serious answer to this you'll either ignore it, or pick on a minor phrase and mock it or post a stupid photo/YouTube clip which you believe proves something.
I no longer care.
You are mocking God; I -and others - have told you so, and you don't seem to care. Yes, it's an appalling thing for a Christian to do, but God is big enough to take care of himself. So you are on your own.
Believe the earth is a flat, 40,000-foot deep disc, a hexagon, a triangle or a globe - it makes no difference to the Gospel.

Bye.

Apple Sky said:

God knows how sorry I am for messing up.



Stop putting words into me mouth.

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She isn't putting words into your mouth. You have stated on several occasions that those who say they have been to the moon are liars, deluded, or Freemasons.

Apple Sky said:

Actually I don't know WTB anymore, they may or may not have walked on the moon, who cares ? All's I know is that the earth doesn't rotate & it is flat.

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Sorry, what is WTB?

David Lamb said:

Sorry, what is WTB?

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I would guess it means what to believe - don't know though.

Strong in Him said:

I would guess it means what to believe - don't know though.

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That would seem to fit. If so, she needs our prayers.

Apple Sky said:

How do I know who's genuine & who's not ? For all I know they could be false teachers.

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If they preach the Gospel, quote the Scriptures and speak of Jesus, they are not false teachers.

If you don't know whether or not someone agrees with, and teaches, the Gospel as taught by Jesus, you need to spend more time in prayer and reding the Scriptures so that you can discern that.

Apple Sky said:

How do I know who's genuine & who's not ? For all I know they could be false teachers.

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You mean like Dean Odle?

Apple Sky said:

What to believe.

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Thanks. I pray that our great God will help you to know "WTB." But, like the shape of the earth, what we believe about the moon landing makes no difference to salvation. It can lead us to name-calling and rudeness of our fellow-Christians, and we all need to beware of that - I know I do!