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Harris Tells Teachers: “We Want to Ban Assault Weapons; They Want to Ban Books."​

Trump’s Plan to Enforce Amnesia by Law: Teaching History will be a Criminal Act

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Do you know about Donald J. Trump’s Executive Order 13950? If you don’t, be afraid. Be very afraid.

Just weeks before he was fired by America’s voters in 2020, President Trump issued this piece of nastiness which was quickly rescinded by just-inaugurated President Biden.

The Executive Order is a “DCL,” what the right-wing brilliantly calls a, “Divisive Concepts Law.” These DCL’s terrorize teachers with the threat of losing their jobs if they dare teach the truth of America’s racial history: That white people enslaved Africans, that the Klan enforced racial vote suppression with the hanging rope. And God forbid, they teach that women were banned from the vote until the 20th Century. The Executive Order bans teaching any historical facts if,

“…. any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex….”

As a practical matter, it means teaching the truth of America’s racial stain will get you fired. In 2021, Tennessee high school teacher Matt Hawn lost his job because a student accused him of teaching—cover your children’s ears— “Critical Race Theory.” Hawn said he’d never heard of Critical Race Theory when he was canned.

(Critical Race Theory, taught in law schools, says many of America’s laws and their enforcement, contain a racial bias. Well, D’oh!].

On Thursday, Vice-President Harris told the American Federation of Teachers convention in Houston, epicenter of the anti-CRT hysteria,

“While you teach students about our nation's past, these extremists attack the freedom to learn and acknowledge our nation's true and full history, including book bans! Book bans — in this year 2024! Just think about it: we want to ban assault weapons, and they want to ban books.”

It was a century ago, that Tennessee was the laughingstock of the nation for prosecuting a schoolteacher for telling his class about human evolution, a story recounted in the film, Inherit the Wind. Now, a hundred years later, Trumpsters are again passing wind over Tennessee.

And he’s baaaaack! Trump has put his fixation with censoring “divisive concepts” into the GOP platform. Details are provided in the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 master plan for the master race.

Ill wind out of Georgia​

This ill wind originated in Georgia when Gov. Brian Kemp signed HB1084, threatening the jobs of teachers for teaching ‘divisive concepts’ that could make a white child feel “discomfort.”

Who would feel “discomfort” about the uncensored history of Georgia? Well, maybe it’s Gov. Kemp himself. Because it was the Kemp family, then known as the Habershams, that first brought Africans in chains to Georgia.

Who would feel “discomfort” about the uncensored history of Georgia? Well, maybe it’s Gov. Kemp himself. Because it was the Kemp family, then known as the Habershams, that first brought Africans in chains to Georgia.

Maybe Kemp and family should feel a bit of discomfort. I spoke with Janie Banse, who told me she is she is heartsick that her cousin, Gov. Kemp, won’t admit that their family’s wealth originated in the African slave trade. Kemp’s ancestors held the largest auction of human beings in American history, still remembered by Black Georgians today as “Weeping Time,” when 436 men, women and their children were separated and sold.

Georgia’s HB 1084, passed in 2022,
 

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Harris Tells Teachers: “We Want to Ban Assault Weapons; They Want to Ban Books."​

Trump’s Plan to Enforce Amnesia by Law: Teaching History will be a Criminal Act

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Do you know about Donald J. Trump’s Executive Order 13950? If you don’t, be afraid. Be very afraid.

Just weeks before he was fired by America’s voters in 2020, President Trump issued this piece of nastiness which was quickly rescinded by just-inaugurated President Biden.

The Executive Order is a “DCL,” what the right-wing brilliantly calls a, “Divisive Concepts Law.” These DCL’s terrorize teachers with the threat of losing their jobs if they dare teach the truth of America’s racial history: That white people enslaved Africans, that the Klan enforced racial vote suppression with the hanging rope. And God forbid, they teach that women were banned from the vote until the 20th Century. The Executive Order bans teaching any historical facts if,

“…. any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex….”

As a practical matter, it means teaching the truth of America’s racial stain will get you fired. In 2021, Tennessee high school teacher Matt Hawn lost his job because a student accused him of teaching—cover your children’s ears— “Critical Race Theory.” Hawn said he’d never heard of Critical Race Theory when he was canned.

(Critical Race Theory, taught in law schools, says many of America’s laws and their enforcement, contain a racial bias. Well, D’oh!].

On Thursday, Vice-President Harris told the American Federation of Teachers convention in Houston, epicenter of the anti-CRT hysteria,

“While you teach students about our nation's past, these extremists attack the freedom to learn and acknowledge our nation's true and full history, including book bans! Book bans — in this year 2024! Just think about it: we want to ban assault weapons, and they want to ban books.”

It was a century ago, that Tennessee was the laughingstock of the nation for prosecuting a schoolteacher for telling his class about human evolution, a story recounted in the film, Inherit the Wind. Now, a hundred years later, Trumpsters are again passing wind over Tennessee.

And he’s baaaaack! Trump has put his fixation with censoring “divisive concepts” into the GOP platform. Details are provided in the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 master plan for the master race.

Ill wind out of Georgia​

This ill wind originated in Georgia when Gov. Brian Kemp signed HB1084, threatening the jobs of teachers for teaching ‘divisive concepts’ that could make a white child feel “discomfort.”

Who would feel “discomfort” about the uncensored history of Georgia? Well, maybe it’s Gov. Kemp himself. Because it was the Kemp family, then known as the Habershams, that first brought Africans in chains to Georgia.

Who would feel “discomfort” about the uncensored history of Georgia? Well, maybe it’s Gov. Kemp himself. Because it was the Kemp family, then known as the Habershams, that first brought Africans in chains to Georgia.

Maybe Kemp and family should feel a bit of discomfort. I spoke with Janie Banse, who told me she is she is heartsick that her cousin, Gov. Kemp, won’t admit that their family’s wealth originated in the African slave trade. Kemp’s ancestors held the largest auction of human beings in American history, still remembered by Black Georgians today as “Weeping Time,” when 436 men, women and their children were separated and sold.

Georgia’s HB 1084, passed in 2022,
"Maybe Kemp and family should feel a bit of discomfort"

Why?
 
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"Maybe Kemp and family should feel a bit of discomfort"

Why?
Possibly because part of their current wealth originated in the slave trade? Now how accurate that is is a matter of contention. But if any of my wealth (such as it is) originated from slavery then I'd feel a certain amount of discomfort. Your mileage may vary.
 
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Possibly because part of their current wealth originated in the slave trade? Now how accurate that is is a matter of contention. But if any of my wealth (such as it is) originated from slavery then I'd feel a certain amount of discomfort. Your mileage may vary.
He had nothing to do with it.
 
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He had nothing to do with it.
Very obviously not. And it is equally very obvious that that fact doesn't change anything I said in the slightest.

Let's ask a simple question. If you were worth a lot of money, would you prefer that your wealth originated by your great great great grandfather spending a lifetime developing vaccines that saved thousands of lives? Or that it came from him buying and selling people?

I guess you could avoid the question by saying that either scenario had nothing to do with you. But that's all you'd be doing. Avoiding the question.
 
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Very obviously not. And it is equally very obvious that that fact doesn't change anything I said in the slightest.

Let's ask a simple question. If you were worth a lot of money, would you prefer that your wealth originated by your great great great grandfather spending a lifetime developing vaccines that saved thousands of lives? Or that it came from him buying and selling people?

I guess you could avoid the question by saying that either scenario had nothing to do with you. But that's all you'd be doing. Avoiding the question.
I personally wouldn't think anything about it. And that doesn't avoid the question. I wouldn't think anything about it because I had nothing to do with it. But for some reason you would want me to feel some kind of shame about it. And in doing that you are proving Kemp's point.
 
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I wouldn't think anything about it because I had nothing to do with it.
You didn't have anything to do with what your father did in his life either. But you seem not to understand the concept of pride and shame. If I discovered that my father had done something morally reprehensible in his life then I would feel shame. If I discovered that he had been a hero in some way then I'd feel pride.

But maybe you wouldn't think anything about it because you had nothing to do with it. Excuse me for thinking that that would be exceptionally odd.

Hop in the Tardis and go back and watch your great great x 10 grandfather giving his life to protect his family and neighbours from being murdered by marauders intent on rape and pillage . No sense of pride? No sense that 'Hey, that was my grandad x 10. Way to to buddy! I'm his direct descendent!' Nothing at all?

So be it.
 
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I disagree with banning both. Plus banning either is pointless at this point way too many assault weapons out there and people who use them to shoot up places do not care.
 
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truth of America’s racial history: That white people enslaved Africans
All good as long as they are taught that there were black owners and dealers. I was taught this in the 70s.
Critical Race Theory, taught in law schools, says many of America’s laws and their enforcement, contain a racial bias. Well, D’oh!].
Can you give me an example couple of laws?
The Executive Order is a “DCL,
Could you give me a link?
 
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I disagree with banning both. Plus banning either is pointless at this point way too many assault weapons out there and people who use them to shoot up places do not care.
How do you know that an assault weapons ban could not work (in the sense of reducing crimes committed with such weapons)?

I am not saying you are mistaken - you may be right for all I know. But just because there are a lot of guns out there does not necessarily mean that there is not a practical ways to reduce that number.

I see no reason why any private citizen (with perhaps some very rare exceptions) needs a gun of any type. And I think that many of the pro-gun rights arguments are beyond stupid - "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is an absolutely moronic bit of nonsense, for example. Having said that, the only argument for not banning guns that seems at least reasonable is precisely the argument you are making - that there are already too many guns out there. In other words, the genie cannot be put back in the bottle.
 
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I see no reason why any private citizen (with perhaps some very rare exceptions) needs a gun of any type. And I think that many of the pro-gun rights arguments are beyond stupid - "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is an absolutely moronic bit of nonsense, for example. Having said that, the only argument for not banning guns that seems at least reasonable is precisely the argument you are making - that there are already too many guns out there. In other words, the genie cannot be put back in the bottle.
Tell us how you really feel about guns. You don't understand why because of ignorance, your coming from your own worldview. My son has an assault rifle and it's a hobby for him and they are fun to shoot. The genie has never been in the bottle in America.
 
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I personally wouldn't think anything about it. And that doesn't avoid the question. I wouldn't think anything about it because I had nothing to do with it.
You have something to do with it to this day because you still benefit by it.
 
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Can you give me an example couple of laws?
Some examples of discrimination in enforcement:




An easy example of discriminatory law is the prohibition of marijuana. As a drug, it's no more dangerous than nicotine or alcohol, and yet it's treated on the same level (federally) as hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, and meth. This is primarily due to its association with Mexican immigrants in the 1920s and '30s.
 
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I've heard all this before some I agree and don't.
An easy example of discriminatory law is the prohibition of marijuana. As a drug, it's no more dangerous than nicotine or alcohol, and yet it's treated on the same level (federally) as hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, and meth. This is primarily due to its association with Mexican immigrants in the 1920s and '30s.
This is not the reason for today but it is a drug. I do agree, The federal law should be in line with all the states, especially for medical purposes so there is less contradiction. It would be helpful when I move to Texas.
 
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This is not the reason for today but it is a drug.
The reason why weed is still treated this way today is that the laws from the '30s (and '50s, which set the sentencing guidelines for drug crimes) were already on the books. Public perception has shifted, and enforcement has been eased, but the law exists for racist reasons. That's the literal definition of systemic racism. Supporting current federal drug policy doesn't make you a racist - the average person generally isn't aware of why the law is the way that it is. But the law itself was, and still is, racist.

And yes, it is a drug. Just like alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine. Drugs should be (and are) regulated. The racist component is the disparity in the scheduling of marijuana compared to other drugs of similar (or even greater) risk to users, which was entirely due to racist and xenophobic characterization of marijuana use in the 1920s and '30s.
 
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Drugs should be (and are) regulated. The racist component is the disparity in the scheduling of marijuana compared to other drugs of similar (or even greater) risk to users, which was entirely due to racist and xenophobic characterization of marijuana use in the 1920s and '30s.
Then you need to add cocaine to the list of racists.
 
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Tell us how you really feel about guns. You don't understand why because of ignorance, your coming from your own worldview. My son has an assault rifle and it's a hobby for him and they are fun to shoot. The genie has never been in the bottle in America.
This should be interesting. What, exactly, am I ignorant about?

Now about guns for "fun": I do not deny that guns can be fun. But our fun needs to be balanced against the broader interests of society. You know, putting the interests of other first

Like that Galilean preacher taught us.

As for the genie in the bottle, I agree it is not the best analogy. The point is that the only reasonable argument I can think for letting citizens have guns is that there are too many out there already and if we force people to turn in their guns, the "bad" guys will obviously not comply
 
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How do you know that an assault weapons ban could not work (in the sense of reducing crimes committed with such weapons)?

I am not saying you are mistaken - you may be right for all I know. But just because there are a lot of guns out there does not necessarily mean that there is not a practical ways to reduce that number.

I see no reason why any private citizen (with perhaps some very rare exceptions) needs a gun of any type. And I think that many of the pro-gun rights arguments are beyond stupid - "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is an absolutely moronic bit of nonsense, for example. Having said that, the only argument for not banning guns that seems at least reasonable is precisely the argument you are making - that there are already too many guns out there. In other words, the genie cannot be put back in the bottle.
Well, for one thing sense the ban lapsed 20 years ago way way way more guns have come on to the scene as it were. For another, you will have people who follow the current laws who will not trust te government to stop at assault weapons thus leading to more violence than it prevents. Additionally, the stats suggest that assault weapons actually while they may kill more people at a time do NOT cause most gun deaths, In other words, banning assault weapons may seem to save many lives, but in reality it is unlikely to save as many as people think.

Suppose there are 1,100 people and you could save 100 of them or 1,000 of them. Which is better?
 
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What, exactly, am I ignorant about?
Another person's point of view.
But our fun needs to be balanced against the broader interests of society. You know, putting the interests of other first
Then we need to reduce crime and mental illness for the betterment of society first.
 
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