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I suffer from bouts of depression. Yes initially if God had just healed me after prayer I wouldn’t know the things to do to get out of it like socialise, make friends, have a purpose, do things enjoy. I have my 7 th bout since 2009 & have had enough. My Church has prayed for me but nothing happens. I don’t really have any good friends at the moment, I am lacking the motivation & energy to get out & volunteer or socialise. If God loves & cares for me why doesn’t he just heal me. I feel angry at Him
 

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Why don’t you just continue to cope. We all have a cross, carry it. Like you say you learned the secret, God taught you. Use it when you feel like it. God doesn’t heal everyone. You can still be affective for Him. Maybe not a miracle life, but trust God. You will know soon enough why. Keep praying, keep seeking, keep knocking. Depression is a sign of the times.
 
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Why don’t you just continue to cope. We all have a cross, carry it. Like you say you learned the secret, God taught you. Use it when you feel like it. God doesn’t heal everyone. You can still be affective for Him. Maybe not a miracle life, but trust God. You will know soon enough why. Keep praying, keep seeking, keep knocking. Depression is a sign of the times.
 
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Why don’t you just continue to cope. We all have a cross, carry it. Like you say you learned the secret, God taught you. Use it when you feel like it. God doesn’t heal everyone. You can still be affective for Him. Maybe not a miracle life, but trust God. You will know soon enough why. Keep praying, keep seeking, keep knocking. Depression is a sign of the times.
 
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I don’t agree just continue to cope it is a cross too heavy to bear. I would rather be physically sick. I have to smoke to cope & that could kill me anyway. God has let me down so I don’t really feel love for him now. Yes good idea just go out when you feel like it. However as you said I will keep asking & praying.
 
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Hello @Aussiealways, and WELCOME TO CF :wave:

I'm very sorry to hear about your ongoing struggles with depression :( (I'm sure that it has become frustrating for you, especially after 15 years of recurring bouts) and, though it is perhaps an odd thing to say in a thread with a title like this one, I will pray for you concerning it.

A couple of things come to mind about God and why He chooses to answer our prayers in unexpected ways sometimes.

First and foremost, God tells us that His ways (His purpose or reasons for doing things) are not our ways, and that His thoughts are not our thoughts, rather, that His ways and thoughts are higher than ours are or could ever hope to be (after all, He is capable of seeing and understanding what we cannot, the "big picture" of our entire lives, IOW, and thereby, what is ~truly~ important and best for us in the here and now, as well as in the eternity to come) .. e.g. Isaiah 55:8-9 cf Isaiah 46:9-10.

This, then, is why it is so 'important' for us to trust Him with all of our heart (to trust that He both knows ~and~ always wants the very best for us .. e.g. Proverbs 3:5-6) and, at the same time, why it is oft times such a 'difficult' thing for us to do (to trust Him, that is) :oops:

The second thing is this, God is not, nor will He ever be, some kind of Cosmic Sugar-Daddy who gives us what we want just to make us happy in the moment. Rather, like a good parent, He always wants what is ~truly~ best for us, and He sees that we get that instead, and just when we need it/in His perfect timing (He gives us what we "need" IOW, even if we cannot see it as being anything but "bad" in the moment).

That all said, is there anything ~inherently~ wrong with God healing you from your bouts of depression right now? The answer is, of course, "no". On the other hand, will there be positive results from God continuing to answer your prayers with a "no" or a "wait", instead of a "yes", instead of healing you immediately, at least for now? The answer to that question is a resounding "yes" (though it may be years before you'll understand why which, again, is why the matter of trusting Him is so vital to our walk with Him).

This is getting to be a long post, so I will end it with a thought below from pastor/theologian Charles Spurgeon (a thought that I believe is based on Romans 8:28, and his experience, then, in seeing that promise play out in his life). Here is his quote and the verse that I believe that it is based on for you to consider.

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"We know that God causes ~ALL~ things to work together
for good to those who love God, to those who
are called according to His purpose"

Romans 8:28

God bless you!!

--David
 
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I suffer from bouts of depression. Yes initially if God had just healed me after prayer I wouldn’t know the things to do to get out of it like socialise, make friends, have a purpose, do things enjoy. I have my 7 th bout since 2009 & have had enough. My Church has prayed for me but nothing happens. I don’t really have any good friends at the moment, I am lacking the motivation & energy to get out & volunteer or socialise. If God loves & cares for me why doesn’t he just heal me. I feel angry at Him
Hmm. You may be able to work this, as depression is anger against the self. I think that is what is going on - you are angry at God and yourself as well. What are you angry at yourself for?

Or most specifically, do you know what happens to trigger these bouts of depression? What happened right before the first one started? I think what is going on is that you are getting angry at yourself, that anger drives you into depression, you resolve the anger and it goes away, and then you get angry at yourself all over again, triggering another bout. Is what I'm thinking anywhere close to the facts?
 
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Hello again @Aussiealways, I wanted to include some additional thoughts in my last post, but instead, I'll leave you with a few additional (random) quotes to consider, from the Bible and from Christians, as well (I'm not sure that they will all be helpful and/or be what you need to hear right now, so I'm just throwing them out for you here, hoping that at least one or two of them will be :)).

BTW, if you continue to wonder whether God loves you are not, find your way back to the foot of the Cross and remember all that He did for you there. That's what I always do when times get tough and it just seems like there will never be an end to it.

OK, here are the additional quotes that I promised for you to consider.

"Two words will help you cope when you run low on hope: accept and trust" ~Pastor Chuck Swindoll
"Our vision is so limited we can hardly imagine a love that does not show itself in protection from suffering…. The love of God did not protect His own Son…. He will not necessarily protect us – not from anything it takes to make us like His Son." ~Missionary/Author Elisabeth Elliot
Hebrews 12
7 It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline?
8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.
9 Furthermore, we had earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them; shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness.
11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.
Psalm 37
4 Delight yourself in the Lord, and He will give you the desires of your heart.
"God never withholds from His child that which His love and wisdom call good. He never denies our heart's desire except to give us something better" ~Missionary/Author Elisabeth Elliot
Lamentations 3
22 The LORD’S lovingkindnesses indeed never cease, for His compassions never fail.
23 They are new every morning; GREAT is Thy faithfulness.
24 “The LORD is my portion,” says my soul, “Therefore I have hope in Him.”

Always remember that God is at work in your life to make it better (even when that thought simply seems impossible to you at the time because of your depression) ~knowing~ that He has promised to work ALL of the things in your life (even the "bad" things like your depression) together for your good :amen:

God bless you!! (Numbers 6:24-26)

--David
p.s. - here's another/final thought, from theologian/pastor A.W. Pink, for you to consider.

Pink - Instead of a river....jpg
 
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I don’t agree just continue to cope it is a cross too heavy to bear. I would rather be physically sick. I have to smoke to cope & that could kill me anyway. God has let me down so I don’t really feel love for him now. Yes good idea just go out when you feel like it. However as you said I will keep asking & praying..

I had to delete what I was saying because I don’t think any depressed person could handle it.
 
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Hello @Aussiealways, and WELCOME TO CF :wave:

I'm very sorry to hear about your ongoing struggles with depression :( (I'm sure that it has become frustrating for you, especially after 15 years of recurring bouts) and, though it is perhaps an odd thing to say in a thread with a title like this one, I will pray for you concerning it.

A couple of things come to mind about God and why He chooses to answer our prayers in unexpected ways sometimes.

First and foremost, God tells us that His ways (His purpose or reasons for doing things) are not our ways, and that His thoughts are not our thoughts, rather, that His ways and thoughts are higher than ours are or could ever hope to be (after all, He is capable of seeing and understanding what we cannot, the "big picture" of our entire lives, IOW, and thereby, what is ~truly~ important and best for us in the here and now, as well as in the eternity to come) .. e.g. Isaiah 55:8-9 cf Isaiah 46:9-10.

This, then, is why it is so 'important' for us to trust Him with all of our hearts (to trust that He both knows ~and~ always wants the very best for us .. e.g. Proverbs 3:5-6) and, at the same time, why it is oft times such a 'difficult' thing for us to do (to trust Him, that is) :oops:

The second thing is this, God is not, nor will He ever be, some kind of Cosmic Sugar-Daddy who gives us what we want just to make us happy in the moment. Rather, like a good parent, He always wants what is ~truly~ best for us, and He sees that we get that instead, and just when we need it/in His perfect timing (He gives us what we "need" IOW, even if we cannot see it as being anything but "bad" in the moment).

That all said, is there anything ~inherently~ wrong with God healing you from your bouts of depression right now? The answer is, of course, "no". On the other hand, will there be positive results from God continuing to answer your prayers with a "no" or a "wait", instead of a "yes", instead of healing you immediately, at least for now? The answer to that question is a resounding "yes" (though it may be years before you'll understand why which, again, is why the matter of trusting Him is so vital to our walk with Him).

This is getting to be a long post, so I will end it with a thought below from pastor/theologian Charles Spurgeon (a thought that I believe is based on Romans 8:28, and his experience, then, in seeing that promise play out in his life). Here is his quote and the verse that I believe that it is based on for you to consider.

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"We know that God causes ~ALL~ things to work together
for good to those who love God, to those who
are called according to His purpose"

Romans 8:28

God bless you!!

--David
Thanks for your kind words & prayers David
 
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Thanks for your kind words & prayers David
I feel that way sometimes.. my cross to bear has been going on for more then 32 years now. But we only have two choices really, that count. Do we want to be with Jesus or not? I am resentful also but i remember what Jesus went through for us and i doubt that there is anyone who is free of trials i have a friend who seems to have a perfect life but we really don't know what goes on in others lives. So grin and bear it while storing up treasures in heaven and rejoice thinking of being with Jesus in heaven. You've probably heard this a million times but what else is there to do really. Bitterness comes if we wallow in our predicaments. Think in what you want your life to be in the future and work toward that goal. Goals give us hope and time rushes by and before you know it your standing in front of Jesus in peace and love.
God bless you and hang in there.
 
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I suffer from bouts of depression. Yes initially if God had just healed me after prayer I wouldn’t know the things to do to get out of it like socialise, make friends, have a purpose, do things enjoy. I have my 7 th bout since 2009 & have had enough. My Church has prayed for me but nothing happens. I don’t really have any good friends at the moment, I am lacking the motivation & energy to get out & volunteer or socialise. If God loves & cares for me why doesn’t he just heal me. I feel angry at Him
I believe your anger towards Him may be adding to your depression. Find your first love.
Blessings.
 
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Sometimes depression is a physical thing, caused by lack of a specific hormone,, vitamins, or something we need to make us whole.
It is good to pray to God to help us, but remember our bodies are copies of copies of copies...all the way back to Adam.
We are not all alike. I would suggest getting medical help. God can heal us, but He also gave us doctors who can help. I'm sure you would go to a doctor with an illness, same with a mental disorder, esp if stemming from physical problem.
I would start some B vitamins too. You would be surprised what a difference vitamins make.

I have been hospitalized 3 times for major depression--that was over 20 years ago. You can get to where you want to be.
 
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praying for you

that God has compassion on you

delivering you with experience of how His love is

having you get into caring about others with hope

All of us have things which can help us to get depressed and suffer deeply. There are things that can help us stay weak so we can get depressed or keep on being depressed and suffering deeply.

And the Bible tells us to refuse to give in to things which can help depression >

Do not be unforgiving > Mark 11:25.

"Do all things without. complaining and disputing," (Philippians 2:14)

There is plenty more.
 
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I am approaching 60 & have been mostly solitary with depression throughout my life & before & after knowing Jesus Christ as our Savior. When I see the world around me, I feel blessed to be able bodied just to work ( warehouse labor) & give something back & pray ( as the Lord tells us in Matthew 6:1-13).

There were times when all I wanted was to do what is right basically & to do things correctly & struggling at it. Thankfully, this matter has subsided but I always pray that I may do what is right and to do it right within my capacity. It was this situation that coincided with me hearing a pastor on the radio talking about finding our bearings & how to follow the Lord as he was referring to struggles he had. What jumped out at him was St. Paul’s mention when the Lord told him, “My grace is sufficient for you…” ( 2 Corinthians 12:9). The passages around this are rather challenging ( 2 Corinthians 12:7-10) & I don’t know if I could fully bear them but I believe that “grace is sufficient” is what is most important.

Whatever we can do in this world in the Lord’s way seems to conflict with it ( Isaiah 55:6-11) but His will be done. The Lord has overcome this world ( John 16:33) but we need to pray for it ( 1 Timothy 2:1-6) and at least for it to be evangelized ( Matthew 9:36-38).

While I am basically ok, I see some horrible things happening near me. A guy I recently worked with was shot & killed outside a strip club. I actually didn’t like him but still feel sorrow at this & pray for his soul. A few years back a woman I worked with was murdered and a guy I was friends with as a kid murdered in his home. These were muddled people who actually had a fair sense of the golden rule in their hearts ( kind of like Romans 2:11-16 etc.).

There is plenty to pray for always ( Luke 18:1).
 
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I suffer from bouts of depression.
Depression is cruel; so depression is not Jesus. So, it is not wise to trust how depression has us judging things.

Yes, depression can have us knowing something that is true, but it won't have us drawing the right conclusions about something.

Jesus is the Judge who is always right. He knows what to do about anything. Even if you have been wrong somehow, Jesus can do what is good about it and include you in doing what is good now.

So, when worry or depression or lusts take my attention the wrong way and degrade me emotionally, it does me good to trust Jesus to be the Judge of what to do.
 
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I am approaching 60 & have been mostly solitary with depression throughout my life & before & after knowing Jesus Christ as our Savior. When I see the world around me, I feel blessed to be able bodied just to work ( warehouse labor) & give something back & pray ( as the Lord tells us in Matthew 6:1-13).

There were times when all I wanted was to do what is right basically & to do things correctly & struggling at it. Thankfully, this matter has subsided but I always pray that I may do what is right and to do it right within my capacity. It was this situation that coincided with me hearing a pastor on the radio talking about finding our bearings & how to follow the Lord as he was referring to struggles he had. What jumped out at him was St. Paul’s mention when the Lord told him, “My grace is sufficient for you…” ( 2 Corinthians 12:9). The passages around this are rather challenging ( 2 Corinthians 12:7-10) & I don’t know if I could fully bear them but I believe that “grace is sufficient” is what is most important.

Whatever we can do in this world in the Lord’s way seems to conflict with it ( Isaiah 55:6-11) but His will be done. The Lord has overcome this world ( John 16:33) but we need to pray for it ( 1 Timothy 2:1-6) and at least for it to be evangelized ( Matthew 9:36-38).

While I am basically ok, I see some horrible things happening near me. A guy I recently worked with was shot & killed outside a strip club. I actually didn’t like him but still feel sorrow at this & pray for his soul. A few years back a woman I worked with was murdered and a guy I was friends with as a kid murdered in his home. These were muddled people who actually had a fair sense of the golden rule in their hearts ( kind of like Romans 2:11-16 etc.).

There is plenty to pray for always ( Luke 18:1).
Thank you all for your offers of help. My main thing is socialisation & often can’t get out of bed early to go places. I know it is up to me but that’s why I became a Christian I felt you just can’t do life on your own.
I am glad to live in a country with a no gun policy. I hope things are more peaceful for you this year
 
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My main thing is socialisation &
You seem to have some understanding of living as a Christian, and you are able to admit you have a problem. And the basic thing is to depend on God to correct us and have us finding out how to love so we can socialize the right way.

Hebrews 12:4-14 says to actively seek our Father for His real correction; and with His correction we share with Him in His holiness and His love's "peaceable fruit of righteousness". And God says to do this; so yes God is committed to doing this with every one of us who are children of God.

So, do not trust any excuses. And do not trust how feelings of failure would have us accepting less.

For quite a while I thought I was great and everyone needed to meet with me so I could straighten everyone out. To say the least, my socializing did not go very well. And I could be criticizing others for not accepting and loving me, when I was my main real problem.

And, of course, plenty of others also do not know how to love; so I was foolish to expect genuine love from ruined people.

It helped me to see how my criticizing and getting hurt and crybabying about not getting attention and praise was not loving those people like Jesus wants.

But I would say God has been getting through to me and correcting me so I can genuinely love people. And there are a lot of things in the Bible that can help us

Plus, we have example people to feed us how to become and how to love. At times I met people who were gentle and humble and they knew how to handle me. I could see how they were kind and not conceited though they were for real and mature while I wasn't. They were how I needed and need to become.

The real ones do not look down on us or guilt-trip us because of our failures. So we need, then, to join our good example people who have hope for anyone and are not conceited about being more mature than we are.

So, basically I would say feed on God's word and depend on Him to have you do what His word means. Don't give up on anything in His word; because it is possible with Him.

And share with people who are good examples of how God's word says to be and to love.

And do not be afraid of anyone. Many do not know how to love. This is why they can hurt us, cheat us, and fail us. There are ones with character making them ok about killing unborn people; and so with such character of course they can betray people and ruin things. And we can give in to being afraid of such politicians and family members. Do not be afraid of evil people. We with God can help any person.

God is committed to making prayer work > 1 Timothy 2:1-4.

You be their example; God does use example > 1 Peter 5:3, 1 Peter 3:1-4.

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

And pray with hope for impossible people, for all that is possible with God. You in Jesus are the one who can help any wrong person.

So . . . in prayer I can prepare so I am ready to love any person. It is like how Jesus was first in Heaven's way of love, and so He was able and ready to come here and love every person.

There were ones ready for Jesus so they could relate well with Him. But others needed a lot of help and so many refused Him. But He always was ready for close sharing with anyone who could share with Him. And He told wrong people what could help them.

So, how you relate in your mind with people is important. How you socialize inside yourself during prayer can help you for how to relate with people when you actually meet with them.

There are people who seem so great, but they are not submissive to God. They are not deeply and emotionally gentle and quiet and resting in Jesus Christ's "rest for your souls." (in Matthew 11:28-30) So, just because people act nice and friendly and socially great, this does not have to mean they know how to love.

So, please do not compare yourself with other people's outward show. But pray to be God's way and able to help any person to find out how to love, in case others aren't as great as they seem to be and might think they are so great.

There are trained and socially skillful ministers who need help. You with Jesus can help anyone.

prayer and example

God's word . . . including >

"let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me" (in Luke 9:23)

"And I will very gladly spend and be spent for your souls; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved." (2 Corinthians 12:15)

People can love us less and less, because they do not know how to love. But if we do not deny ourselves and die to self, we also can have problems. In selfish ways of loving we can let others have power over us to keep us from loving and forgiving them. But Paul kept growing in Jesus so that Paul loved others more and more beautifully and abundantly while they got even worse.

So, have compassion ready so when you find out the real truth about anyone, you keep loving that person and have hope for any impossible person > love "hopes all things" (in 1 Corinthians 13:7). And encourage people to do better, as is possible with God. Do not give up on anyone . . . including yourself.
 
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