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Blood shows what Paleo-Americans hunted 13,000 years ago.

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Forensic scientists have used an immunological blood residue analysis technique called immunoelectrophoresis for over 50 years to identify blood residue sticking to objects found at crime scenes. In recent years, researchers have applied this method to identify animal blood proteins preserved within ancient stone tools. They compare aspects of the ancient blood with blood antigens derived from modern relatives of extinct animals.

Study: Paleo-Americans hunted mastodons, mammoths and other megafauna in eastern North America 13,000 years ago
 

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The one thing we can be sure of is ….. the blood (regardless of how close it is) will not match modern relatives if these truly are from 13,000 years ago. Since the first thing God created in Genesis (after the heavens and the earth) was blood in animals (mammals)

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

The word creature is nephesh = soul

And Leviticus tells us the life of the flesh is in the blood.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

The word life is the word nephesh = soul



So, whatever it was that mobilized prehistoric inhabitants prior to adam and ish-shaw' could not be the same as what mobilizes man today... or God would not have needed to re-create it.
 
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The one thing we can be sure of is ….. the blood (regardless of how close it is) will not match modern relatives if these truly are from 13,000 years ago. Since the first thing God created in Genesis (after the heavens and the earth) was blood in animals (mammals)

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

The word creature is nephesh = soul

And Leviticus tells us the life of the flesh is in the blood.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

The word life is the word nephesh = soul



So, whatever it was that mobilized prehistoric inhabitants prior to adam and ish-shaw' could not be the same as what mobilizes man today... or God would not have needed to re-create it.
Nothing you've said here has anything at all to do with the OP. These finding are based in science and reality, not myth or belief. It's completely irrelevant.
 
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Nothing you've said here has anything at all to do with the OP. These finding are based in science and reality, not myth or belief. It's completely irrelevant.
It is more relevant than your rebuttal ....
 
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The one thing we can be sure of is ….. the blood (regardless of how close it is) will not match modern relatives if these truly are from 13,000 years ago. Since the first thing God created in Genesis (after the heavens and the earth) was blood in animals (mammals)

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

The word creature is nephesh = soul

And Leviticus tells us the life of the flesh is in the blood.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

The word life is the word nephesh = soul



So, whatever it was that mobilized prehistoric inhabitants prior to adam and ish-shaw' could not be the same as what mobilizes man today... or God would not have needed to re-create it.

Except that this entirely hinges on the Creation account in Genesis being literal and correct... and we don't see that in the history of God's creation.
 
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Except that this entirely hinges on the Creation account in Genesis being literal and correct... and we don't see that in the history of God's creation.

I agree............ and it is there. I will explain later
 
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Forensic scientists have used an immunological blood residue analysis technique called immunoelectrophoresis for over 50 years to identify blood residue sticking to objects found at crime scenes. In recent years, researchers have applied this method to identify animal blood proteins preserved within ancient stone tools. They compare aspects of the ancient blood with blood antigens derived from modern relatives of extinct animals.

Study: Paleo-Americans hunted mastodons, mammoths and other megafauna in eastern North America 13,000 years ago
Awesome! An old earth fits in just fine within the pages of Genesis if one reads between the lines. Thanks for sharing!
Blessings.
 
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Colour me interested, but I am not expecting anything amazing.

Create = bara in Hebrew - The word create is to bring something into existence that did not exist before, or to make something out of nothing. Only God can create; man can fabricate, build, construct, design, make, assemble, etc.… but man cannot create. Once God creates something He does not need to create it again, because it now exists. He can just speak it into being … (That can be verified throughout the Word of God.)

Although Genesis 1 is commonly referred to as creation week …other than verses 1:1 with the original Heavens and earth 1:21 soul life in mammals and 1:27 holy spirit in man which man lost when he disobeyed ….other than those …God did not create anything else…because everything else from day one through day four had already been created, God just spoke it back into existence.

That brings me to the question …What was it that mobilized paleolithic man and animals….I don’t have an answer…. but if it were the same as the soul life that was created in Gen 1:21 there would be no need for God to re-create it.



To fill in the in the gap a little:

When God originally created the heavens and the earth

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, He created it not in vain He formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.

Gen 1:1

In the beginning God created (bara) the heaven and the earth.

It does not state when the heavens and earth were created or if they were created at the same time. It could have been the same time but…. It doesn’t say …..so we don’t know.

But what it does say is that both the heavens and the earth were created. Additionally, the Hebrew particle ‘eth before both “the heavens” and “the earth” emphasize the article “the”, which distinguishes them both from the proceeding event of verse 2.



Gen 1:2

And the earth was (hayah) without form, and void (tohu va bohu); and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

While hayah has been translated was in most English versions including the LXX..... In the original Hebrew ….there was no verb “to be” (which is translated was) However there is a verb “to become”, which is how this should be translated. The second was in this verse was added by translators as there was/is no corresponding word in that place.

“And the Earth BECAME without form and void…” Is how the text should read. God had created both the heavens and the earth, but it was the earth that became an empty wasteland.

What cataclysmic event took place that caused the earth to become tohu va bohu …I believe the Word points to a heavenly fall out …..but it does not specifically declare it so I will just leave it at that.
 
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Create = bara in Hebrew - The word create is to bring something into existence that did not exist before, or to make something out of nothing. Only God can create; man can fabricate, build, construct, design, make, assemble, etc.… but man cannot create. Once God creates something He does not need to create it again, because it now exists. He can just speak it into being … (That can be verified throughout the Word of God.)

Although Genesis 1 is commonly referred to as creation week …other than verses 1:1 with the original Heavens and earth 1:21 soul life in mammals and 1:27 holy spirit in man which man lost when he disobeyed ….other than those …God did not create anything else…because everything else from day one through day four had already been created, God just spoke it back into existence.

That brings me to the question …What was it that mobilized paleolithic man and animals….I don’t have an answer…. but if it were the same as the soul life that was created in Gen 1:21 there would be no need for God to re-create it.



To fill in the in the gap a little:

When God originally created the heavens and the earth

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, He created it not in vain He formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.

Gen 1:1

In the beginning God created (bara) the heaven and the earth.

It does not state when the heavens and earth were created or if they were created at the same time. It could have been the same time but…. It doesn’t say …..so we don’t know.

But what it does say is that both the heavens and the earth were created. Additionally, the Hebrew particle ‘eth before both “the heavens” and “the earth” emphasize the article “the”, which distinguishes them both from the proceeding event of verse 2.



Gen 1:2

And the earth was (hayah) without form, and void (tohu va bohu); and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

While hayah has been translated was in most English versions including the LXX..... In the original Hebrew ….there was no verb “to be” (which is translated was) However there is a verb “to become”, which is how this should be translated. The second was in this verse was added by translators as there was/is no corresponding word in that place.

“And the Earth BECAME without form and void…” Is how the text should read. God had created both the heavens and the earth, but it was the earth that became an empty wasteland.

What cataclysmic event took place that caused the earth to become tohu va bohu …I believe the Word points to a heavenly fall out …..but it does not specifically declare it so I will just leave it at that.

Yeah, as I expected, just a load of Biblical quotes and that's it.

It also really has no bearing on the OP topic, either this or your own original post.
 
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Forensic scientists have used an immunological blood residue analysis technique called immunoelectrophoresis for over 50 years to identify blood residue sticking to objects found at crime scenes. In recent years, researchers have applied this method to identify animal blood proteins preserved within ancient stone tools. They compare aspects of the ancient blood with blood antigens derived from modern relatives of extinct animals.

Study: Paleo-Americans hunted mastodons, mammoths and other megafauna in eastern North America 13,000 years ago

Okay ... so let's take an example:

Shem, Noah's son, spears a mastodon in 2340 BC.

Forensic scientists find his spear with mastodon blood on it, and the result is that "Paleoamericans hunted mastodons, mammoths and other megafauna in eastern North America 13,000 years ago"?

1. I didn't know Shem shook hands with Americans.

2. Looks like forensic scientists are moving that decimal place to push their deep-time lies.

3. Don't think I'm not noticing that this is science saying the Flood didn't occur as documented.
 
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Yeah, as I expected, just a load of Biblical quotes and that's it.

It also really has no bearing on the OP topic, either this or your own original post.

Well gosh ….it breaks my heart knowing I have disappointed you.

Your relevance and mine are miles apart... I at least have a standard for truth whether you agree or not. You have whatever you deem pertinent …but no standard ….as science is always in flux.
 
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Well gosh ….it breaks my heart knowing I have disappointed you.

Your relevance and mine are miles apart... I at least have a standard for truth whether you agree or not. You have whatever you deem pertinent …but no standard ….as science is always in flux.
The standard of Truth is in what Creation itSelf is showing us. Science is opening that window. There's no way I'd call an ancient middle-eastern creation story as Truth.
 
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Well gosh ….it breaks my heart knowing I have disappointed you.

Your relevance and mine are miles apart... I at least have a standard for truth whether you agree or not. You have whatever you deem pertinent …but no standard ….as science is always in flux.

You don't know much about science, do you?
 
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You don't know much about science, do you?

Enough to know that the Word of God will collaborate with true science…. Also, enough to know that there is a lot of so called science that is fudged to escalate their research and promote bias evidence based on funding … I don’t say that with pride or speculation. I have a brother who is a scientist …has been for 26 years with an alphabet organization. And as he recently stated (tongue in cheek) “there is more politics in science now than there is in congress”
You can’t fudge the Word of God although many people twist scripture to their own liking, but truth proves itself… and twisting truth is simply a lie.

In answer to your statement. No …I am sure by comparison …. I don’t know much.
 
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