The Trinity

Jermayn said:

I believe in the Trinity myself, however I was wondering if the Bible implies that one must believe in it as a requirement to attain salvation and if so, what is the minimum acceptable
understanding of it.

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Scripture reminds us over and over that the Three are One. Though difficult to understand it is essential to believe that the Father,Son and Holy Spirit share a unique union and that this union in turn is shared in the believer. In other words, this Union makes their home in us and this in fact is what regenerates the believer.

Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.

Blessings

"Implies" ..... are where we get into private interpretation ... It is not a good idea on any subject ....because it then becomes the mind of man adlibbing for God.
Regarding this subject ... It does not state that in the Word as a requirement.

Jermayn said:

I believe in the Trinity myself, however I was wondering if the Bible implies that one must believe in it as a requirement to attain salvation and if so, what is the minimum acceptable
understanding of it.

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The greater question does or can faith in a false god save one from sin ?

Can a false christ save one from sin ?

The answers to both in Scripture are a resounding no.

Jermayn said:

I believe in the Trinity myself, however I was wondering if the Bible implies that one must believe in it as a requirement to attain salvation and if so, what is the minimum acceptable
understanding of it.

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We need to believe in the nature of God as the standard for salvation. The Holy Spirit is God insofar as the fruits of the Spirit are aspects of God’s nature and Jesus is God insofar as he the exact image/embodiment of God’s nature (Hebrews 1:3). You can call it what you like, but we need to believe in the nature of God for salvation from not living in accordance with the nature of God.

Soyeong said:

We need to believe in the nature of God as the standard for salvation. The Holy Spirit is God insofar as the fruits of the Spirit are aspects of God’s nature and Jesus is God insofar as he the exact image/embodiment of God’s nature (Hebrews 1:3). You can call it what you like, but we need to believe in the nature of God for salvation from not living in accordance with the nature of God.

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Is God singular in Person or Plural in Person ?

In other words is only the Father , God ?

"Elohim is plural in form, it is understood in the singular sense. Thus, in Genesis the words, “In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth,” Elohim is monotheistic in connotation, though its grammatical structure seems polytheistic."
" In the Hebrew Bible such plural forms are most commonly used when referring to the God of Israel, e.g., אֲדוֹנִ֣ים אָנִי֩ ʾăḏōnīm ʾå̄nī ‘I am a master (lit. ‘masters’)’ (Mal. 1.6)"

Jesus is YHWH said:

Is God singular in Person or Plural in Person ?

In other words is only the Father , God ?

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There is the Ruach Elohim and the Nefesh Elohim.

Soyeong said:

There is the Ruach Elohim and the Nefesh Elohim.

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That did not answer the questions

Plurality in the Old Testament
An Examination of God’s Uniplurality in light the Hebrew Bible’s Use of Plurals

Sam Shamoun


In several articles and rebuttals we have presented evidence which we feel conclusively shows that the Hebrew Bible presents a Triune Godhead, that there are three (and only three) distinct Persons identified as Yahweh God. The Hebrew Scriptures refer to Yahweh, Yahweh’s Angel, and Yahweh’s Spirit as distinct Persons, all of whom are fully God. To read the data that establishes this position please consult the following (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).

In this article we want to focus our attention on the Bible’s use of plural nouns, verbs, adjectives etc., to see how they lend further support for our premise that the God revealed in the OT is a multi-Personal Being.

Our examination of the use of plurals is not intended to stand on its own, that these plurals by themselves are sufficient enough to prove that God is a multi-Personal Being. Instead, the biblical use of plurals is intended to supplement the evidence already presented which conclusively demonstrates that the God revealed in both the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Scriptures is tri-Personal.

Basically, the existence of such plurals is actually what we would expect to find if the Bible does present a Triune God.

Just looking at the data

Jermayn said:

I believe in the Trinity myself, however I was wondering if the Bible implies that one must believe in it as a requirement to attain salvation and if so, what is the minimum acceptable
understanding of it.

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If I understand the Gospels correctly the only thing you are required to believe is that Jesus is God and that He died to free us from the law of sin and death.

Jermayn said:

I believe in the Trinity myself, however I was wondering if the Bible implies that one must believe in it as a requirement to attain salvation and if so, what is the minimum acceptable
understanding of it.

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The Bible states to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life it is by believing in Jesus.

d taylor said:

The Bible states to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life it is by believing in Jesus.

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Who is God.

I believe the Lord covers the divinity of the 3 Persons of the Trinity in John 14:1-31, John 15:1-27, & John 16:1-33 . John 14:15-18 seems to be a good summary of our faith in relation to God.

Jesus is YHWH said:

Who is God.

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There is God The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.

d taylor said:

There is God The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.

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Right but my earlier response was believing in Jesus who is God for eternal life. See 1 John 5:20

Jesus is YHWH said:

Right but my earlier response was believing in Jesus who is God for eternal life. See 1 John 5:20

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I see i missed where your "Who is God" ended in a period and not a question mark. I thought you were asking who is God?

Jermayn said:

Bible implies that one must believe in it as a requirement to attain salvation and if so, what is the minimum acceptable
understanding of it

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I think the scriptures make clear the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are divine. They are intimately related and, yet, distinct in that they work with and on behalf of each other. They each have their distinct agency. And, of course, the notion that God is one is a given in the scriptures. There would be no doctrine without those implications in the scriptures, but the general doctrine of one essence and three hypostases developed over time.

What's the minimum acceptable given in the scriptures? I don't know if that's a helpful way of framing salvation, but certainly the scriptures reveal God (via the above implications) through Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Of course, having a conception of God is very different than actually relating to God.