Michigan repeals 1931 abortion ban from constitution

essentialsaltes · Apr 5, 2023

AP

A near-century old abortion ban that fueled one of the largest ballot drives in Michigan history was repealed Wednesday by Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, just months after voters enshrined abortion rights in the state’s constitution.

Hammster · Apr 5, 2023

Sad that they think more dead babies is a good thing.

Occams Barber · Apr 5, 2023

essentialsaltes said:
AP

A near-century old abortion ban that fueled one of the largest ballot drives in Michigan history was repealed Wednesday by Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, just months after voters enshrined abortion rights in the state’s constitution

Thanks ES.

The US appears to be really split over abortion law. Not something we see much of here (Australia). All states allow abortion and there's little significant opposition. The difference probably stems from our much lower level of religiosity.

BTW - What is a 'ballot drive'?

OB

essentialsaltes · Apr 5, 2023

Occams Barber said:
BTW - What is a 'ballot drive'?

(I gather that's what we in California would call a voter initiative or proposition.) If enough voters sign a petition, then a measure will be put on the ballot at the next election. Michigan voters did so, and this measure won at the ballot box. I believe that measure made the abortion-ban unenforceable (but left it in the state law). This new action by the legislature and the governor has literally stricken the abortion ban from the lawbooks. IANAL, but I think that's the gist of it.

Occams Barber · Apr 5, 2023

essentialsaltes said:
(I gather that's what we in California would call a voter initiative or proposition.) If enough voters sign a petition, then a measure will be put on the ballot at the next election. Michigan voters did so, and this measure won at the ballot box. I believe that measure made the abortion-ban unenforceable (but left it in the state law). This new action by the legislature and the governor has literally stricken the abortion ban from the lawbooks. IANAL, but I think that's the gist of it.

Thanks ES - we have petitions to Parliament but they don't necessarily force any legislative action by Parliament.

OB

FireDragon76 · Apr 6, 2023

Occams Barber said:
Thanks ES.

The US appears to be really split over abortion law. Not something we see much of here (Australia). All states allow abortion and there's little significant opposition. The difference probably stems from our much lower level of religiosity.

BTW - What is a 'ballot drive'?

OB

There are limits to abortion even in Australia, as there are in Europe, and they are relatively uniform. In Australia, abortion is prohibited after 22 weeks unless two doctors deem it medically necessary.

The US has a patchwork, in comparison.

Saucy · Apr 6, 2023

It's disgusting and I'm ashamed of what my state has done. God will judge this country soon.

USincognito · Apr 6, 2023

The people have spoken.

NxNW · Apr 6, 2023

Saucy said:
It's disgusting and I'm ashamed of what my state has done. God will judge this country soon.

When?

essentialsaltes · Apr 6, 2023

Saucy said:
It's disgusting and I'm ashamed of what my state has done. God will judge this country soon.

Since Roe v Wade is no longer the law of the land for the country as a whole, maybe only Michigan and states like it will be smoten.

Saucy · Apr 6, 2023

NxNW said:
When?

I'd say it's already happening. America is in a downfall.

Hans Blaster · Apr 6, 2023

NxNW said:
When?

When the next hurricane hits Michigan.

Saucy · Apr 6, 2023

Mock if you want to. The whole world is in a freefall.

USincognito · Apr 6, 2023

Saucy said:
I'd say it's already happening. America is in a downfall.

How so? And be specific.

Hans Blaster · Apr 6, 2023

Saucy said:
Mock if you want to. The whole world is in a freefall.

Yes, that's how orbits work.

KCfromNC · Apr 6, 2023

USincognito said:
The people have spoken.

States' rights!

No, wait, not like that...

Soul_Tsunami · Apr 6, 2023

In these last days more and more will fall from the Faith. Eventually, those against God, those that don't believe in His death, burial, and resurrection will get the world they want. We continue to fight to save as many babies as we can.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2023

USincognito said:
The people have spoken.

The people need to repent and believe the gospel.

USincognito · Apr 6, 2023

Saucy said:
Mock if you want to. The whole world is in a freefall.

Again, how so?

I'm old enough to remember Hal Lindsey. I watched Jack van Impe date set and then redate set. I listened to Prophecy Club and how they hyped Y2K and then changed their "mission" around March 2001. We've been hearing about how God's owed Sodom and Gomorrah an apology for 2 decades.

Conservatives have been shrieking about the end of the Republic, the end of America and end of the world my entire life.

USincognito · Apr 6, 2023

Hammster said:
The people need to repent and believe the gospel.

Statistically most of them do.

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