U.S. Capitol rioter the 'QAnon Shaman' is released early from federal prison

ThatRobGuy · Mar 31, 2023

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/31/1167319814/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-capitol-riot-early-release-reentry

Jacob Chansley, who received one of the longest sentences handed down to a U.S. Capitol rioter, has been released early from federal prison and sent to a reentry center.

Chansley, 35, was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding in Nov. 2021 and sentenced to 41 months in prison. But prison records show that Chansley has been moved to a residential reentry management facility in Phoenix, where he is originally from, and is expected to be released on May 25.

Chansley received an early release, in part, because of his good behavior while in prison, says Albert Watkins, who represented Chansley through his plea and sentencing.

"Mr. Chansley can now move forward with his life. For that I applaud the BOP," Watkins told NPR in a statement.

I wonder if his early release is due, in part, to cooler heads prevailing and realizing that he was just a troubled young man and wasn't encouraging any violence. There was a while where people wanted to treat "supporters of Trump" with the same vitriol as they would Trump, himself. Hopefully this dude realizes the error of his ways and proceeds with a little more discretion in the future. It would seem he got the harshest sentence due to him wearing the most outlandish outfit and being the most recognizable, and not because he actually did anything that was any worse than any of the other people participating in the riot.

I always thought that his harsh punishment (in comparison to people like Raz Simone who orchestrated the takeover of several blocks of a major US city, and seemingly faced no consequences) was a bit disproportionate. Hopefully lessons have been learned.

FireDragon76 · Apr 1, 2023

35 in a "young man"?

I agree he lost touch with reality. Hopefully, he can find something better to do with his life.

ThatRobGuy · Apr 1, 2023

FireDragon76 said:
35 in a "young man"?

I agree he lost touch with reality. Hopefully, he can find something better to do with his life.

Well, not to bicker over semantics...but

Given that he was a 33 year old failed actor who still lived with his mom at the time of the event, I would say I was being generous by saying saying "young adult" lol.

As far as being able to do something with his life at this point, that may be a challenge for him. Once one becomes known as "the buffalo hat guy", that could limit one's career prospects.

I think he should consider changing his look a little bit and seeing if he's eligible for a legal name change.

DaisyDay · Apr 1, 2023

FireDragon76 said:
35 in a "young man"?

Yes! The boundary keeps getting pushed forward...I remember when 50 seemed old - no more.

Hans Blaster · Apr 1, 2023

ThatRobGuy said:
I wonder if his early release is due, in part, to cooler heads prevailing and realizing that he was just a troubled young man and wasn't encouraging any violence. There was a while where people wanted to treat "supporters of Trump" with the same vitriol as they would Trump, himself. Hopefully this dude realizes the error of his ways and proceeds with a little more discretion in the future. It would seem he got the harshest sentence due to him wearing the most outlandish outfit and being the most recognizable, and not because he actually did anything that was any worse than any of the other people participating in the riot.

It was not. He received credit for certain programs of reformation and for good behavior. He hasn't been "released" as such, but moved to a halfway house as part of his transition in a couple months to being non-incarcerated. No "cooler heads prevailed" on sentencing, nor has any clemency been offered. Just the standard things available to federal inmates. (His 41 month sentence and attached period of probation have not been changed.)

ThatRobGuy · Apr 1, 2023

DaisyDay said:
Yes! The boundary keeps getting pushed forward...I remember when 50 seemed old - no more.

Demographics and life milestones are definitely different than they were even as recent as a few decades ago.

People are both living longer, and living at home longer.

The days of the average 28 year old being married with 2 kids and a house are a bit in the rearview at this juncture.

In the 2020's, I'd consider most people in their early 30's (as he was when he did the deed) as "young adults"...and that's being generous for some of them considering that 52% of people in their 20's are still living in the same room that was there when they were 5.

Actually "adulting" is starting to get delayed quite a bit compared to where it used to be.

DaisyDay · Apr 2, 2023

ThatRobGuy said:
Demographics and life milestones are definitely different than they were even as recent as a few decades ago.

People are both living longer, and living at home longer.

The days of the average 28 year old being married with 2 kids and a house are a bit in the rearview at this juncture.

In the 2020's, I'd consider most people in their early 30's (as he was when he did the deed) as "young adults"...and that's being generous for some of them considering that 52% of people in their 20's are still living in the same room that was there when they were 5.

Actually "adulting" is starting to get delayed quite a bit compared to where it used to be.

I was speaking for myself, but you're correct.

rjs330 · Apr 2, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
It was not. He received credit for certain programs of reformation and for good behavior. He hasn't been "released" as such, but moved to a halfway house as part of his transition in a couple months to being non-incarcerated. No "cooler heads prevailed" on sentencing, nor has any clemency been offered. Just the standard things available to federal inmates. (His 41 month sentence and attached period of probation have not been changed.)

I think this is true. I haven't heard of any judicial or prosecutorial intervention on his behalf. It sounds like he was a good inmate and earned his way out. He shouldn't have gotten the sentence he did, but that's another issue.

RestoreTheJoy · Apr 2, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
It was not. He received credit for certain programs of reformation and for good behavior. He hasn't been "released" as such, but moved to a halfway house as part of his transition in a couple months to being non-incarcerated. No "cooler heads prevailed" on sentencing, nor has any clemency been offered. Just the standard things available to federal inmates. (His 41 month sentence and attached period of probation have not been changed.)

Moved to a halfway house IS a release from prison. He never belonged there. He committed no violence and just walked around. What actually happened is once that exculpatory evidence withheld from the Jan 6 production was viewed, he was quickly released.

Halfway houses are generally for those who need rehabilitation of some kind, usually drugs and alcohol, but sometimes re-entry into society from a non-violent point of view, after prison. Doesn't apply here, really.

Hans Blaster · Apr 2, 2023

RestoreTheJoy said:
Moved to a halfway house IS a release from prison.

He's still serving his sentence. This is part of his 41 months, not his probation.

RestoreTheJoy said:
He never belonged there. He committed no violence and just walked around.

There have been several discourses on this site including in this thread about what he actually did. I will not repeat them now for you because you failed to read them, but I will say this one thing: He was armed.

If you are sentenced to incarceration for a federal crime you go to a prison. It doesn't matter what kind of federal crime you committed.

RestoreTheJoy said:
What actually happened is once that exculpatory evidence withheld from the Jan 6 production was viewed, he was quickly released.

This is very much NOT what happened. His early release was due to good behavior and participation in certain rehabilitation programs. This rumor you reference is not true and denied by Chansley's own attorney.

RestoreTheJoy said:
Halfway houses are generally for those who need rehabilitation of some kind, usually drugs and alcohol, but sometimes re-entry into society from a non-violent point of view, after prison. Doesn't apply here, really.

The BOP uses a (2 month) stop over in a halfway house for every federal inmate possible at the end of their prison terms. Which is why it really *does* apply here.

USincognito · Apr 2, 2023

RestoreTheJoy said:
Moved to a halfway house IS a release from prison.

But not from judicial sanction and legal accountability for his actions.

RestoreTheJoy said:
He never belonged there. He committed no violence and just walked around.

Why are we still having to relitigate this after Tucker's heavily edited video and leading voice over have been debunked numerous times on CF? He wasn't just walking around. He entered the building within seconds after the doors were broken open. He actively engaged in disrupting an official proceeding by going into the Senate gallery and shouting obscenities and then by entering the floor of the Senate chamber and remained there despite being asked to leave. That was the charge he pled guilty to and that was the one he was sentenced for.

Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up, destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another to do so; or

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

He belonged in prison.

RestoreTheJoy said:
What actually happened is once that exculpatory evidence withheld from the Jan 6 production was viewed, he was quickly released.

There was ZERO exculpatory evidence in what Tucker aired. Isn't it interesting that red hats told us there would be "proof" of "what really happened" yet all Tucker was able to "expose" was some highly edited video of Chansley - which funny enough, did show him in the Senate chamber obstructing official proceedings, you know, what he was sentenced for.

The Real Reason the Jan. 6 'QAnon Shaman' Was Released Early

Legal experts say it has nothing to do with new footage broadcast by Tucker Carlson.

time.com

RestoreTheJoy said:
Halfway houses are generally for those who need rehabilitation of some kind, usually drugs and alcohol, but sometimes re-entry into society from a non-violent point of view, after prison. Doesn't apply here, really.

Actually there are numerous conditions in which a person could be held in a Residential Recovery Center including supervised release which was part of his sentence.

Sentenced 11/17 to 41 months in prison followed by 36 months supervised release, must pay $2,000 restitution.

RestoreTheJoy · Apr 4, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
He's still serving his sentence. This is part of his 41 months, not his probation.

There have been several discourses on this site including in this thread about what he actually did. I will not repeat them now for you because you failed to read them, but I will say this one thing: He was armed.

If you are sentenced to incarceration for a federal crime you go to a prison. It doesn't matter what kind of federal crime you committed.

This is very much NOT what happened. His early release was due to good behavior and participation in certain rehabilitation programs. This rumor you reference is not true and denied by Chansley's own attorney.

The BOP uses a (2 month) stop over in a halfway house for every federal inmate possible at the end of their prison terms. Which is why it really *does* apply here.

Your assertion that Chansley was armed is false, so far as I can find. He was carrying a flag. He was not armed with a weapon.

Chansley, 35, was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding in Nov. 2021 and sentenced to 41 months in prison, a ridiculously long sentence for the charge.

Yeah, yeah...the DOJ just had a change of heart after evidence that exculpatory evidence was withheld on Jan 6 cases became public. His own attorney never received e this evidence of him walking around peacefully. It was all entirely coincidental timing and all due to good behavior, sure. Even the articles admit otherwise, that this was only a partial reason.

RestoreTheJoy · Apr 4, 2023

USincognito said:
But not from judicial sanction and legal accountability for his actions.

Why are we still having to relitigate this after Tucker's heavily edited video and leading voice over have been debunked numerous times on CF? He wasn't just walking around. He entered the building within seconds after the doors were broken open. He actively engaged in disrupting an official proceeding by going into the Senate gallery and shouting obscenities and then by entering the floor of the Senate chamber and remained there despite being asked to leave. That was the charge he pled guilty to and that was the one he was sentenced for.

Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up, destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another to do so; or

Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

He belonged in prison.

There was ZERO exculpatory evidence in what Tucker aired. Isn't it interesting that red hats told us there would be "proof" of "what really happened" yet all Tucker was able to "expose" was some highly edited video of Chansley - which funny enough, did show him in the Senate chamber obstructing official proceedings, you know, what he was sentenced for.

The Real Reason the Jan. 6 'QAnon Shaman' Was Released Early

Legal experts say it has nothing to do with new footage broadcast by Tucker Carlson.

time.com

Actually there are numerous conditions in which a person could be held in a Residential Recovery Center including supervised release which was part of his sentence.

Sentenced 11/17 to 41 months in prison followed by 36 months supervised release, must pay $2,000 restitution.

He didn't break anything. He didn't break into the building. He walked around carrying a flag and did some shouting. He walked into the then empty Senate, said some things, and said a prayer at some point. He and everyone left. Nothing was obstructed. Everything continued with a short delay the same day.

The riots of most of 2020 were treated as if they were no big deal and even defensible, even though several people were killed, businesses were damaged and looted, cars were attacked, buildings were set on fire, and billions of dollars of damage were done through most of the year in various cities, all condoned by the party currently in power and some of the criminals even bailed out by them.

This, by sharp contrast, was a three hour riot by unarmed people who shouted a lot of angry things, skirmished with some police, and broke some windows- all wrapped up the same afternoon. All arrested pretty quickly, most with misdemeanors - but some felonies as well. Yet two years later, this is all they can talk about while Rome burns.....

Pommer · Apr 4, 2023

RestoreTheJoy said:
Your assertion that Chansley was armed is false, so far as I can find. He was carrying a flag. He was not armed with a weapon.

He had a pointy-stick.
Or a flagpole with a sharp finial.

NxNW · Apr 4, 2023

RestoreTheJoy said:
Nothing was obstructed.

Except the Presidential transition.

RestoreTheJoy said:
The riots of most of 2020 were treated as if they were no big deal

This never happened.

RestoreTheJoy said:
This, by sharp contrast, was a three hour riot by unarmed people who shouted a lot of angry things, skirmished with some police, and broke some windows- all wrapped up the same afternoon. All arrested pretty quickly, most with misdemeanors - but some felonies as well.

When you try to assassinate the Vice President and Speaker of the House, you go to jail.

RestoreTheJoy said:
Yet two years later, this is all they can talk about while Rome burns.....

Rome is burning? Link?

Hans Blaster · Apr 4, 2023

RestoreTheJoy said:
Your assertion that Chansley was armed is false, so far as I can find. He was carrying a flag. He was not armed with a weapon.

Incorrect.

Jan. 6 rioter who carried spear, wore horns, draws 41 months

USincognito · Apr 5, 2023

RestoreTheJoy said:
He didn't break anything. He didn't break into the building.

I didn't claim that he did. He DID, however, follow right behind the guy that broke through the door.

RestoreTheJoy said:
He walked around carrying a flag and did some shouting. He walked into the then empty Senate, said some things, and said a prayer at some point. He and everyone left. Nothing was obstructed. Everything continued with a short delay the same day.

I sometimes wonder if you folks actually believe this nonsense or if you're hoping that the gaslighting will work on us.
1. He was carrying a spear. Not a "stick". A spear.
2. His "walking around" carrying a spear with a flag on it was parading/demonstrating on Capitol grounds which is illegal.

(Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building, in violation of Title 40, United States Code, Section 5104(e)(2)(G))

3. The Senate was empty because he was part of a rampaging mob had broken into the building after battling police for two hours.

(Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1512(c)(2))

(Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section l 752(a)(l ))

4. His entered the gallery and began screaming obscenities.

(Civil Disorder, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 231 (a)(3))

5. He remained in the building, the Senate gallery and the Senate floor despite repeatedly being asked to leave the premises.

(Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building, in violation of Title 40. United States Code, Section 5104(e)(2)(A))

RestoreTheJoy said:
The riots of most of 2020 were...

Civil unrest we have seen many times before in this country. We have never had citizens attack the seat of our democracy with the purpose of stopping the lawful transfer of power after a fair election. They are also an irrelevant red herring. If conservatives cannot defend the actions of the J6 insurrectionists without appealing to what aboutism, then there is no defense.

RestoreTheJoy · Apr 5, 2023

Pommer said:
He had a pointy-stick.
Or a flagpole with a sharp finial.

So he was carrying a FLAG on a pole. Not a weapon at all.

RestoreTheJoy · Apr 5, 2023

NxNW said:
Except the Presidential transition.

This never happened.

When you try to assassinate the Vice President and Speaker of the House, you go to jail.

Rome is burning? Link?

No, the transition happened the same day, as planned.

Yes, 2020 and the rioting and looting most decidedly DID happen, and many were never arrested. Certainly, no several year effort was put into tracking them down, like the millions of resources used for Jan 6.

No one tried "to assassinate the VP and the Speaker" at all. There were no attempts on their lives. Angry people said things which they did not do, which is apparently is acceptable if one is a Democrat (Maxine Waters, Schumer, et. al) screaming threats - even at Supreme Court Justices - but not if one is not a Biden/leftwing supporter.

Rome is burning, is a (partial) expression. I'm sure you can figure it out. President Biden has ignored all the real problems this country faces - like the rise of autocratic leaders that became obvious in the lockdown states (and some countries) during the pandemic, the borders being wide open, with millions of pounds of fentynal and other drugs (and human trafficking) pouring over and loads of resulting deaths, the failing economy that he pretends is fine, potential war with two superpowers, etc and the metaphorical fires he has started on every side...but by golly, we cannot talk enough about January 6, years later.

RestoreTheJoy · Apr 5, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
Incorrect.

Jan. 6 rioter who carried spear, wore horns, draws 41 months

No, you are incorrect. He carried a FLAG. He had a flagpole with a finial on the top.

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