Statement on President Carter’s Health

Pommer · Feb 18, 2023

Statement on President Carter’s Health

Feb. 18, 2023
ATLANTA (Feb. 18, 2023) — After a series of short hospital stays, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter today decided to spend his remaining time at home with his family and receive hospice care instead of additional medical intervention. He has the full support of his family and his medical team. The Carter family asks for privacy during this time and is grateful for the concern shown by his many admirers.

Pommer · Feb 18, 2023

Could be an alternate interpretation of this?

Pommer · Feb 18, 2023

Since

Pommer said:
Could be an alternate interpretation of this?

I cannot reply over on ^^^ that thread, so I shall ask here…did you document this “dream” beforehand anywhere @SavedByGrace3 ?

d taylor · Feb 18, 2023

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Hope he found the Narrow Gate and believed in It.

Pommer · Feb 18, 2023

d taylor said:
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Hope he found the Narrow Gate and believed in It.

The man who introduced a generation of Washington politicians to the term “born-again”, and then lived a life reflective of that?

Tuur · Feb 18, 2023

d taylor said:
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Hope he found the Narrow Gate and believed in It.

I think there's an excellent chance that he does.

DaisyDay · Feb 19, 2023

He is a good man of grace. 98 is a very old age and proof that senility is NOT inevitable.

FreeinChrist · Feb 19, 2023

He has led a Godly life. Praying that he passes gently when the time comes and for his family.

Fantine · Feb 19, 2023

Narrow Gate? When an inspirational model of compassion and integrity passes on, the "red carpet" would be more like it, with a huge gospel choir singing "Well done, thou good and faithful servant."

More than any other politician in my close to three generations of living, Carter exemplified the importance of good character in our national and even local leaders.

Who will provide the model of moral and ethical leadership for our country now, someone whose integrity we could always feel 100% sure of--regardless of whether we agreed or disagreed with his policies.

God bless President Carter and his beautiful family.

Tuur · Feb 20, 2023

Fantine said:
Narrow Gate? When an inspirational model of compassion and integrity passes on, the "red carpet" would be more like it, with a huge gospel choir singing "Well done, thou good and faithful servant."

More than any other politician in my close to three generations of living, Carter exemplified the importance of good character in our national and even local leaders.

Who will provide the model of moral and ethical leadership for our country now, someone whose integrity we could always feel 100% sure of--regardless of whether we agreed or disagreed with his policies.

God bless President Carter and his beautiful family.

This a reference to Matthew 7:13-14. Jesus said:

Enter ye in by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby. ]For narrow is the gate, and straitened the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they that find it.

-ASV

Fantine · Feb 20, 2023

The gate will be broad to accommodate the millions he inspired.
In his weekly Bible studies but mostly through his example

FireDragon76 · Feb 21, 2023

Pommer said:
The man who introduced a generation of Washington politicians to the term “born-again”, and then lived a life reflective of that?

I don't think Americans were really as "religious" in that regard as they presumed to be. They wanted the rhetoric without the substance. They prefered a man that spoke in glittering generalities over a man that spoke hard truths with compassion and integrity.

His infamous "Malaise" speech was a prophetic voice that is still timely, decades later. They needed to center their lives in the things that truly give life meaning, that we share in common and can accomplish together, not just in individualistic material aspirations and "narrow interests". People instead in the 1970's were obsessed with the "affluenza" of the 50's and 60's, and nothing has changed. The result is the opoid crisis, the rise in suicides, and people turning to tribalism and reactionary politics.

Tuur · Feb 21, 2023

FireDragon76 said:
I don't think Americans were really as "religious" in that regard as they presumed to be. They wanted the rhetoric without the substance. They prefered a man that spoke in glittering generalities over a man that spoke hard truths with compassion and integrity.

His infamous "Malaise" speech was a prophetic voice that is still timely, decades later. They needed to center their lives in the things that truly give life meaning, that we share in common and can accomplish together, not just in individualistic material aspirations and "narrow interests". People instead in the 1970's were obsessed with the "affluenza" of the 50's and 60's, and nothing has changed. The result is the opoid crisis, the rise in suicides, and people turning to tribalism and reactionary politics.

If you want to know about people in the 1970s, you could ask one of us who lived through it. The 1970s prior to Carter saw:

Watergate scandal.
US defeat in Vietnam.
Vice President and President resign.*
A sitting president giving a blanket pardon to a former president.
High inflation.
Double-digit interest rates.
The Arab Oil Embargo.
Rising energy prices.
Talks of rationing energy.
Declining military.
The increasing decline of American manufacturing,

Everything pointed to a nation in terminal decline. And some on the Left welcomed it. I had one of them as a college professor. It was in this time I heard Dean Rusk give a speech on decline of nations.

The election of Carter didn't change a thing. I'm convinced Carter is a Christian and basically a good person, yet he wasn't a skilled president. His one crowning achievement was the Camp David Accords, something that he should have one the Nobel Peace Prize for. Instead of effectively dealing with problems, we had the "national malaise" and the not as well remembered opinion that Americans should lower expectations. Both went over about as well as Ford's Whip Inflation Now.

*Here's a fun fact from the 1970s: Gerald Ford was the only US president never elected in a general election as president or vice-president. Ford was elected by Congress to fill the vacancy when Spiro Agnew resigned, and then became president when Nixon resigned.

wing2000 · Feb 21, 2023

Tuur said:
Watergate scandal.
US defeat in Vietnam.
Vice President and President resign.*
A sitting president giving a blanket pardon to a former president.
High inflation.
Double-digit interest rates.
The Arab Oil Embargo.
Rising energy prices.
Talks of rationing energy.
Declining military.
The increasing decline of American manufacturing,

...and it seems we learned nothing from those experiences as a nation.

FireDragon76 · Feb 21, 2023

wing2000 said:
...and it seems we learned nothing from those experiences as a nation.

Indeed. It's like a dog returning to its vomit.

Americans have recently had a love affair with celebrities turned demagogues. We've had two of them in my lifetime. Neither were able to stop national decline, both presided over expansion of economic and social inequality.

Fantine · Feb 21, 2023

Hmm.

When will we learn tax cuts for the rich promote--not reduce--economic and social inequality?

FireDragon76 · Feb 21, 2023

Fantine said:
Hmm.

When will we learn tax cuts for the rich promote--not reduce--economic and social inequality?

We won't. At least not in the immediate future.

Americans have never been a society oriented around the acquisition of wisdom. Quite the contrary, we've been very much involved with destroying societies that do.. and calling that progress. I'm hoping and praying that one day Americans grow up.

FreeinChrist · Feb 21, 2023

Tuur said:
If you want to know about people in the 1970s, you could ask one of us who lived through it. The 1970s prior to Carter saw:

Watergate scandal.
US defeat in Vietnam.
Vice President and President resign.*
A sitting president giving a blanket pardon to a former president.
High inflation.
Double-digit interest rates.
The Arab Oil Embargo.
Rising energy prices.
Talks of rationing energy.
Declining military.
The increasing decline of American manufacturing,

Everything pointed to a nation in terminal decline. And some on the Left welcomed it. I had one of them as a college professor. It was in this time I heard Dean Rusk give a speech on decline of nations.

The election of Carter didn't change a thing. I'm convinced Carter is a Christian and basically a good person, yet he wasn't a skilled president. His one crowning achievement was the Camp David Accords, something that he should have one the Nobel Peace Prize for. Instead of effectively dealing with problems, we had the "national malaise" and the not as well remembered opinion that Americans should lower expectations. Both went over about as well as Ford's Whip Inflation Now.

*Here's a fun fact from the 1970s: Gerald Ford was the only US president never elected in a general election as president or vice-president. Ford was elected by Congress to fill the vacancy when Spiro Agnew resigned, and then became president when Nixon resigned.

There was also the Iranian Hostage crisis where 52 diplomats at the US embassy there were taken hostage because Carter allowed the former Shah of Iran to receive medical care in the US. They were unwilling to release the hostages while Carter was president and I always felt he stopped campaigning hard when that became clear.

Hans Blaster · Feb 21, 2023

FreeinChrist said:
There was also the Iranian Hostage crisis where 52 diplomats at the US embassy there were taken hostage because Carter allowed the former Shah of Iran to receive medical care in the US. They were unwilling to release the hostages while Carter was president and I always felt he stopped campaigning hard when that became clear.

At least that one actually happened during the Carter presidency. The first 4 items on the list above (post #13) happened before (and arguably are major reasons Carter was elected in the first place.)

Yttrium · Feb 21, 2023

Tuur said:
If you want to know about people in the 1970s, you could ask one of us who lived through it. The 1970s prior to Carter saw:

Watergate scandal.
US defeat in Vietnam.
Vice President and President resign.*
A sitting president giving a blanket pardon to a former president.
High inflation.
Double-digit interest rates.
The Arab Oil Embargo.
Rising energy prices.
Talks of rationing energy.
Declining military.
The increasing decline of American manufacturing,

Also rising pollution. Pollution levels got pretty bad in the 70s.

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