Can women teach?

Praise God for His word amen. Did not Christ say once the children's bread is not for the dogs? "It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs". Is that really how GOD saw them? In some places woman had to keep their head covered. It was 2 thousand yeas ago.

From the start of this fall of man we are seeing clearly every day. He never makes us do anything we don't want to do. Our own lifes when He found us there were things we did that were not sin or wrong but as we grow we look back and.. wow He never said a word until we were ready when we could see. Thats how it was back then. God used woman all though out the OT. Today some believe they can not preach teach and God will say nothing unless we from our heart want to listen and change.

Women can only teach
Those who are teachable

Last night I was listening to Hannah Williamson talk about Logan Paul. One of Logan's friends was asking about his prayer life. She commented on that. Anyways, I think her heart for God and genuine caring for people always come through which are great qualities, especially for a teacher.

The way I see it is women lead a lot in the modern world already. If people are looking up to women, we should encourage Christian women that are inspired by God to teach about faith and positive values.

If God calls a woman to teach, who are we to tell her no?

It seems to me that far more often the church conducts its business outside of the established institutions with their demands for power than anywhere else and the message is more important than the messenger.

In Christ there is neither male nor female, and when the Holy Spirit preaches the only qualification is the attitude "Here am I, Lord, send me."

Aussie Pete said:

God has order within the church. There is hierarchy and leadership. No one should suffer discrimination, but that does not mean that anyone and his dog can do as they please in the church.

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Females are not comparable to dogs. You just imploded.

See if you can find and any gender exceptions below. Churches that pretend they are above the golden rule should be dismantled.

Matthew 7:12
“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Luke 6:31
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

Hebrews 10:24-25
And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

Philippians 2:3-8
Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others. Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant (what some call 'women') , being born in the likeness of men. ...

Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Galatians 5:14
For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Romans 13:1-7
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.
(Gender discrimination laws)

Matthew 22:39
And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

SkyWriting said:

Females are not comparable to dogs. You just imploded.

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It's an Australian expression. Obviously it does not translate so well to your part of the world.

Gender has nothing to do with it. For example, there is a great deal of nepotism in the church. I don't agree that pastor's children should automatically be the next generation of church leadership. Sometimes it works out. Other times, it is a disaster.

Sketcher said:

Women can teach children and other women anything that can be taught in church if they know the subject matter.

Women are also allowed to witness to the men in their family (Acts 16:14-15).

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If you treat other people as you would wish to be treated yourself,
then, gender discrimination is not possible.

Sketcher said:

Women can teach children and other women anything that can be taught in church if they know the subject matter.

Women are also allowed to witness to the men in their family (Acts 16:14-15).

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Local laws rule over religious sects rules. And local law, at that time, did not allow women to do many things. And Paul mentions that.

Aussie Pete said:

It's an Australian expression. Obviously it does not translate so well to your part of the world. Gender has nothing to do with it. For example, there is a great deal of nepotism in the church. I don't agree that pastor's children should automatically be the next generation of church leadership. Sometimes it works out. Other times, it is a disaster.

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Dogs in the church, Australians lore, and the preachers brattty kids are not the topic.
Women leadership in the church is the toipic and the golden rule does not allow for
discrimination between genders or the sexes of persons.

Luke 6:31
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

I taught Sunday School

if I remember correctly, all the other Sunday School teachers at the time were also woman

SkyWriting said:

Dogs in the church, Australians lore, and the preachers brattty kids are not the topic.
Women leadership in the church is the toipic and the golden rule does not allow for
discrimination between genders or the sexes of persons.

Luke 6:31
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

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Take it up with God. I don't make the rules.

God has a hierarchy in heaven. There are angels and archangels, for example. He also has appointed a hierarchy in the church. It's not that anyone is better than another. It is simply that God appoints people as He see fits, not what suits people.

The self appointed leaders are a blight on the church, male and female.

Do to others as I would to them? Sure thing. I would not want to be given a responsibility for which I was not equipped. I spent too much of my childhood in that position. Women and men are different. God made it that way.

Strong in Him said:

Yes, women can teach.
Priscilla taught Apollos, and Paul knew this.
Prophets teach when they tell people God's word and will - and there were OT female prophets.
Paul does not say in 1 Cor 12 that the gift of teaching is for men only.

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I agree. However, Scripture states women are not to hold positions of authority within the Church, - and this includes teaching the congregation or leading a Sermon.

SkyWriting said:

Dogs in the church, Australians lore, and the preachers brattty kids are not the topic.
Women leadership in the church is the toipic and the golden rule does not allow for
discrimination between genders or the sexes of persons.

Luke 6:31
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

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A Christian woman cannot be the head over her own husband so how can she be the head over other womens husbands within the Church?. Women are not to have authority over men, Scripture makes this very clear. This has nothing to do with discrimination or value. The reason why is because Eve was decieved and sinned first, we bear this brunt now. As a result of Eve's sin, - God set men over women to be in positions of authority within His church, and that means teaching His Word as a leader in the Church.

Believer000 said:

A Christian woman cannot be the head over her own husband so how can she be the head over other womens husbands within the Church?

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Not all of us understand the role of a minister/pastor/priest/teacher/whatever other title as being " head" over others.

If there's authority expressed in ministry, it's the authority of the Church, which authorises the minister and to which the minister is accountable.

Believer000 said:

I agree. However, Scripture states women are not to hold positions of authority within the Church, - and this includes teaching the congregation or leading a Sermon.

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Scripture doesn't say that at all.
God has been calling, does call and no doubt will continue to call women to serve him in those ways.
Are you saying that he is going against his own word? Or is it maybe that all women, over several centuries, cultures, countries and denominations who have ever said that, have been lying/deluded?

Believer000 said:

A Christian woman cannot be the head over her own husband so how can she be the head over other womens husbands within the Church?.

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In what sense do you believe clergy to be "head" over anyone? Our Minister - and other Ministers/vicars that I've known - have never been so.
They do not tell, and have not told, us what to do, where to live, what church to attend, what job to have, who to marry, how much to give to the church or even what to believe. If I was worried, confused or depressed, I might want to talk to my Minister - as someone who could not only give a listening ear, but pray with me afterwards. But I have never been told what to do and, if any Minister tried to tell me, I would not be obliged to obey them. I can change churches if I do not like/agree with my Minister.

My minister is not my husband. He is someone who has a calling to pastorally care for, and nurture, a congregation/s. Ministers - and I include vicars, Pastors and priests in that - are called by God to their role, definitely - but they are also paid to do what they do. They may have one or more churches or be moved to different churches, (in Methodism, anyway), be promoted, be disciplined, be sacked or retire; my husband can't do those things, unless he were to divorce me.

Believer000 said:

Women are not to have authority over men, Scripture makes this very clear.

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Except that Deborah had authority, and ruled over, the entire nation of Israel.
And when Josiah wanted a word from the Lord, the male priests that he sent chose to consult the prophetess, Huldah. The king listened to the word that God gave to her and there was a revival.

GOD has all authority, and he chooses to whom he will give it. Jesus deliberately chose a woman to be the first witness to the resurrection - and told her to go into a room full of men to give them a message. Similarly with the woman at the well - she told the men she had found the Messiah, they went to see for themselves and believed.

Believer000 said:

The reason why is because Eve was decieved and sinned first, we bear this brunt now.

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No, Eve being deceived and the first to sin is a good reason for allowing women to learn - as Paul says at the beginning of that passage, "Let women learn", 1 Timothy 2:11.
Otherwise, men would have to be excluded form being ordained because Adam had heard God's command for himself, and disobeyed. Who wants a Minister./vicar who knows what God wants, or is saying, and does the opposite?
Paul says in Romans 5 that sin came into the world through Adam, not Eve. Eve was deceived; she didn't fully know/remember God's command so she got it wrong when repeating it to the serpent.
Again, "let the women learn" - so that they will not be deceived.

Believer000 said:

As a result of Eve's sin, - God set men over women to be in positions of authority within His church, and that means teaching His Word as a leader in the Church.

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No, he didn't.
Part of Eve's punishment was that her husband would rule over her - husband and wife relationship, not Minister/congregation relationship.
And it was not like that in the beginning - men and women were both created by God, in his image and to be equals.

TatiC said:

Now I’m not quite sure if this is where I should post this but here it goes:

Are women allowed to teach?

In 1 Timothy 2:11-12 it says:
“Women should learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.”

• Does it mean teaching The Word?
• Does it mean teaching in general?
• Should we not teach men as in the male species or men as in mankind (both man and woman?).
• Are we allowed to teach other women or children?

“Similarly, teach the older women to live in a way that honors God. They must not slander others or be heavy drinkers. Instead, they should teach others what is good. These older women must train the younger women to love their husbands and their children, to live wisely and be pure, to work in their homes, to do good, and to be submissive to their husbands. Then they will not bring shame on the word of God.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:3-5‬ ‭NLT‬‬

I see here in Titus that older women can teach younger women certain things.

• Are we only allowed to teach these subjects?

Please be kind, I can see it can get a bit brutal in here. I just want some kind guidance into the right direction via scripture.

God bless.

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Women are not allowed to have authority over men; i.e., teach, in the Christian assembly.

They are allowed to teach privately outside the assembly.

There are no restrictions on women teaching women.

Clare73 said:

Women are not allowed to have authority over men; i.e., teach, in the Christian assembly.

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Teaching is not having - and the verse says usurping - authority over someone.
Scripture does not say that women cannot teach in the Christian assembly.

Strong in Him said:

Teaching is not having - and the verse says usurping - authority over someone.
Scripture does not say that women cannot teach in the Christian assembly.

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It is in Paul's meaning.

The teaching from the pulpit is received from the congregation as from their shepherd.
Women are not shepherds of assemblies, which shepherd is a position of authority.

SkyWriting said:

If you treat other people as you would wish to be treated yourself,
then, gender discrimination is not possible.

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Wrong.

SkyWriting said:

Local laws rule over religious sects rules. And local law, at that time, did not allow women to do many things. And Paul mentions that.

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Not as a local law, he didn't. There were local conditions that the church in Corinth faced - one of them being sharing a city with the temple of Aphrodite, which had priestesses, whose influence may have caused trouble in the assembly - but Paul never mentioned anything about it being illegal.