More Covid news to scare people with

godleadyoursoul said:

While I'm seeing the vaxxed get freedoms....

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Ah yes, freedom. To come and go as I please. Might even book an overseas trip in January. Bali looks nice. We'll decide tonight over dinner at the local Italian after the cinema. Shame you can't do any of that, but hey, it's your call.

Aldebaran said:

As you wish.
The Nazis often portrayed those they persecuted as vermin, parasites, or diseases. Nazi ideology focused on the idea that Germany’s "racial purity" was under attack from the "blood of weaker peoples," and Nazi propaganda often depicted Jews, political opponents, and others as parasitic organisms that threatened the overall health of the so-called Volksgemeinschaft (German racial community). During the years of the Nazi regime, German doctors frequently argued that Jews spread disease. Reflecting common themes in Nazi propaganda, these medical professionals repeatedly pushed the false claim that Jews were especially responsible for outbreaks of typhus—a deadly contagious disease spread by lice.
Propaganda Poster: “Jews Are Lice: They Cause Typhus”

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I didn't want a history lesson. You have given me NOTHING that shows that it is rational and reasonable to compare what people are going through today. It also cherry picks just about the least damaging thing that Nazis did (even though it was used to perpetuated large TERRIBLE things) in the form of labels. Nazis ALSO drove cars, does that mean anyone who owns a Passat is a Nazi?

When antivax people are
getting shot in the street for not having a card,
being sent to gas chambers for not getting vaxxed
being persecuted for WHO THEY ARE instead of what misinformation they choose to follow
having their freedoms restricted because of who they are (instead of what misinformation they choose to follow),
then let's chat.


Because honestly, anti-vaxxers say stuff just as absurd about scientists, doctors and the scientific community and yet I'm not hear calling anti-vaxxers Nazis cause I'm not an unmitigated ass.

Aldebaran said:

It doesn't matter the document, but the people who wrote them obviously understood that we have a Creator, and He has given us inalienable rights (and responsibilities) which are in ALL documents pertaining to the founding of this country, including the Constitution.

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Like the right to Free Speech.
Except, of course to take God's name in vain.

Or Like "Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"
So long as it doesn't stem from coveting your neighbours wife oxen, manservant maidservant and the whole bunch....

Like unmitigated or unfettered Capitalism with no bounds....
So long as you keep the Sabbath day holy and resting


Christian nationalism is a farce of a political OR religious outlook.

Aldebaran said:

It doesn't matter the document...

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As you thought you were quoting the constitution, I think it does. An 'Oops, my bad' would be in order I would have thought.

Aldebaran said:

I was quoting the founding fathers.

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Of course you were.

Aldebaran said:

You're giving Nazis a pass on their methods while admitting the terrible things their methods resulted in. Interesting. But anyway, I showed you that the Nazis did indeed use doctors, scientists, and the labeling of the jews as being those who spread disease. You're choosing to deflect from what you asked about and now have been shown.

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1) There's PLENTY of evidence that vaccines reduce transmissibility.
DEFINE_ME
1. You're not going to read it so I'm not going to bother putting more factual information up. I mean the internet is drowning in it but....
2. Vaccines slow down the spread. So unvaccinated people are more likely to transmit the disease. I'm not surprised that's hard to grasp. As more variants develope vaccines will be less effective and then the stubborn snowflakes and the misguided hubris will be our downfall.

And now you're trivializing one of the worst atrocities in human history.

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Dude, every time anti-vaxxer puts on a yellow star they are insulting folks who suffered. You're confusing my comparison of YOUR position as my ACTUAL position. YOUR position trivialises their suffering.

IOW, once the water is boiling and the frog is already dead. Ok. But even then, I'll still be accused of violating the Godwin rule.

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Quick tip: Don't lick the hallucinogenic frog and stay focussed on reality.

Bradskii said:

Ah yes, freedom. To come and go as I please. Might even book an overseas trip in January. Bali looks nice. We'll decide tonight over dinner at the local Italian after the cinema. Shame you can't do any of that, but hey, it's your call.

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That's ok. If I was vaccinated and knew the virus was not only still spreading, but that new variants were being spread to different countries by other vaccinated people I would have to consider if galavanting around was the right thing to be doing right now.

godleadyoursoul said:

That's ok. If I was vaccinated and knew the virus was not only still spreading, but that new variants were being spread to different countries by other vaccinated people I would have to consider if galavanting around was the right thing to be doing right now.

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Quite interesting that you say that if you were vaccinated then you'd consider it the right think to do to not put others at risk. But you want to complain when it's required that you restrict yourself from harming others when you're not vaccinated.

Have you actually thought this through?

wing2000 said:

Information is not suppressed. Information is available. Use the brain God gave you.
I'm really tired of the victim mentality bandied about on these threads.

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Facts are facts. This is conspiracy fact, not conspiracy theory.

All the facts about COVID are being suppressed.

A Nobel prize winning virologist warns about massive future deaths from the vaccines, and he’s attacked and vilified.

The mRNA vaccine inventor warns not to take the mRNA vaccine and warns we are being lied to, and the same thing happens to him.

A well known German pathologist warns that most of those dying from COVID now have been vaccinated - confirming others warnings about the vaccines - and he also is attacked, vilified, and censored.

Researchers in India find that four HIV insertions are found in the SARS-CoV-2 virus that are not found in any other Coronavirus, that latch onto human cells and infect them, and they were pressured into withdrawing the research paper, and say so, and say they stand behind their research.

The above is just the tip of the iceberg regarding ER physicians and other doctors who’ve actually treated COVID patients, virologists, immunologists, etc, that are telling the truth about suppressed cheap, safe, and effective treatments, and warning about the suppression of the numbers of those who died or had serious complications from the vaccines.

One group of ER physicians banded together and formed the America’s Frontline Doctor’s organization to get the truth out about suppressed treatments and the dangers of these vaccines, and is another example of being lied about, slandered and vilified as well as censored for warning us.

Some people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

sfs said:

Again, complete fantasy. There are no HIV inserts, the claimed insertion points were in a part of the SARS-CoV-genome that isn't experiencing deletions, and the virus is steadily mutating away from it's original state (like all viruses). I'd bet any amount of money that you've never looked at viral genome sequence.

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The Indian researchers stand by their research and state they were pressured to withdraw their research, and had you bothered to look at the link to their findings, they go into great detail on the evidence of the 4 insertions.

Here’s another web page covering those sequences that you claim aren’t there and that I never looked at them:

The spike (S) glycoproteins enable the Coronavirus to enter the cells of human bodies. Studies have shown that the glycoprotein has a specific shape that helps them to attach to host cells, and this ability is unique to the SARS-CoV-2, not found in other types of Coronaviruses like SARS-CoV. More specifically, the spike glycoprotein (S) of Coronavirus is cleaved into two subunits, S1 and S2. The S1 helps in binding with the receptor on the target cell, and the S2 subunit facilitates fusion with the cell membrane.

As this splitting of the glycoprotein in SARS-CoV-2 is unique to it, the Indian researchers wanted to study how this evolution happened. To do this study, they compared the spike glycoprotein sequences of the SARS-CoV-2 with SARS-CoV, and analysed the difference in them. On careful examination of the sequence alignment, they found that the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein contained 4 insertions, or 4 segments that are not found in the earlier less infectious forms of Coronavirus.

The four insertions found in the study are, GTNGTKR, HKNNKS, GDSSSG and QTNSPRRA.


4 insertions at SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein
After finding this, they then studied all available full-length sequences of the virus found in human bodies, and they found that the insertions were present in all of them. But most importantly, the found that these segments were not there in the spike glycoprotein sequence of the same virus found in bats.

Source: Indian scientists had found unique ‘insertions’ in Covid-19 virus genome

And shown earlier, those 4 insertions are from the HIV virus.

chad kincham said:

Facts are facts. This is conspiracy fact, not conspiracy theory.

All the facts about COVID are being suppressed.

A Nobel prize winning virologist warns about massive future deaths from the vaccines, and he’s attacked and vilified.

The mRNA vaccine inventor warns not to take the mRNA vaccine and warns we are being lied to, and the same thing happens to him.

A well known German pathologist warns that most of those dying from COVID now have been vaccinated - confirming others warnings about the vaccines - and he also is attacked, vilified, and censored.

Researchers in India find that four HIV insertions are found in the SARS-CoV-2 virus that are not found in any other Coronavirus, that latch onto human cells and infect them, and they were pressured into withdrawing the research paper, and say so, and say they stand behind their research.

The above is just the tip of the iceberg regarding ER physicians and other doctors who’ve actually treated COVID patients, virologists, immunologists, etc, that are telling the truth about suppressed cheap, safe, and effective treatments, and warning about the suppression of the numbers of those who died or had serious complications from the vaccines.

One group of ER physicians banded together and formed the America’s Frontline Doctor’s organization to get the truth out about suppressed treatments and the dangers of these vaccines, and is another example of being lied about, slandered and vilified as well as censored for warning us.

Some people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

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I should make an official request that this be moved to the conspiracy section.

Bradskii said:

I should make an official request that this be moved to the conspiracy section.

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Make sure it’s a conspiracy FACT thread, because I’ve given facts.

chad kincham said:

Make sure it’s a conspiracy FACT thread, because I’ve given facts.

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Whatever you say, Chad. Just as long as it's somewhere where I don't have to read it.