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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.
 

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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.
Hello, please don't think that you're going to Hell. God really loves you and Jesus died so we can be forgiven for our sins. I struggle with sin too, we all do. God is good and God loves us so much. Jesus is our Lord and Saviour and He already saved us from our sins. God bless you
 
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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am.

What is it you feel God wants you to do and by what power do you feel he wants you to do it in?

i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere.

Well then tell us. How have you tried? Someone can tell me they tried and tried to fix their car but if they don't know how to do it maybe it's no wonder they're frustrated.

i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell.

Nonsense and you make sad the heart of Jesus when you say something like that. If you're wanting to serve God you NEVER, EVER, EVER have to come to terms that you're going to hell. Make the heart of Jesus rejoice by acknowledging YES Lord you're able to redeem me and work the work of sanctification in my life. I may not understand it all but I'll be bold and declare you're teaching me.

sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

Sorry but scripture says IF we sin we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 1 Jn 1:9 Didn't say you have to! If you had to it wouldn't have put it down as IF you sin it'd be put down as WHEN you sin.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.

So a farmer goes out in the fields works hard planting seeds Mark 4 taking diligent care of that crop and he produces wonderful things. Well I don't blame you having envy over someone producing a good crop. That type of envy though is self pity founded upon sorry but being lazy. Everyone will and does reap what they sow and Jesus talking about the measure of victory people have in their lives he points out it's not up to him but up to the person.

“Consider carefully what you hear,” he continued. “With the measure you use, it will be measured to you—and even more. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.” Mk 4:24

So how much of the word do you choose and I to put in us and develop. Jesus didn't say he does the measuring ....he says we do. So sorry but no need to be envious of anybody when God is offering you the same thing to you.
 
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i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell

Why do you think you are going to hell?

Are you a Christian?
By that do you believe that Jesus died for your sins and that he rose from the dad as a sign that he had done so?

Please talk to your doctor about possible depression and to your minister about being a Christian.

Romans 8, Nothing in all creation can separate us from the love of God.
 
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I'll say this one time, you're hearing loud and clear from the enemy our adversary the devil or his minions. And if you are a born again believer you have the authority in Christ to cast Him out directly. He's a liar !! He finds our weak spot ( yours is you question your salvation) then keeps shooting those fiery darts of false information which is why we need to put on the full armor of God.

If you want to meet with me in either PM or in some zoom meetings feel free to PM me. If not you owe it to yourself to read thoughtfully Ephesians 1 the whole chapter and then Ephesians 6 and take special notice to verses 10-18. Much more could be said but I'll end with this:. Your salvation is not how you feel about it but a legal transaction in heaven, that you are not living in the benefit of.
 
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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.
Hello, friend!

I used to get tired and struggled with doing what God told me to do. Then I realized my focus had to shift. "How about I focus on my relationship with Him?" Of course I tried to be good. However, knowing that I would fail at times, I could go to Him. I started falling in love with Christ for a good solid year. I told him, "I don't want friends, I don't want people, I just need You. You'll give me friends eventually." I had a lot of ungodly friends in the past, and I needed a refresher. God took away all those friends and replaced them with godly friends after a year of falling in love with Him.

I noticed, Lifelong_sinner, that once I started falling in love with Him, my desire to sin grew less and less. When I messed up, God really showed me His mercies and His forgiveness. My thought of "I'm going to hell," changed to, "I deserve hell, but Jesus forgave all my sin and saved me from God's wrath. I have a place with Him in heaven."

I encourage you: Focus on your relationship with God. Talk to Him, tell Him how you feel, read the Bible, worship Him. I'm a writer by nature, so I journal to Him. Maybe you can try that, too. Get to know Him, His likes, His dislikes, etc.

You'll get past this.
 
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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.
I am saddened every time I read your posts. You struggle because you are quenching the Holy Spirit. Until you let Him in , the bondage of doubt will not be lifted. I pray that you find your way back to your first love. :crossrc:Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
 
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Condemnation to believers is never from God,thats you and the enemy at work. The Holy Spirit convicts, we come under His conviction and by following Him,seeking His answers by prayer and scripture, He leads us out of this. The enemy on the other hand condemns, lets you know you're no good, never were. If you're hearing that and feeling that then it's not of God. And as Maria mentioned you quench the Spirit who is your helper ! How ? By living in the lie rather than seeking truth. You said you have tried everything, as if some kind of your works can fix this. It's not about you but Him, your only job is submission and follow His lead out of this.
 
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I am saddened every time I read your posts. I pray that you find your way back to your first love. :crossrc:Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

i feel bad that my posts sadden you. I dont want anyone who reads what i write on here to feel sad. I wish i could write something that would lift your spirits, but i just dont have it in me.
 
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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.

Do you believe that Jesus is the Messiah? That He is the savior of the world and God in human flesh. If you believe in Him then you have salvation. Listen to John 6. Listen to it over and over.

You seem to be trying to live for God which would indicate that you do have some faith. You are at the very least close to finding eternal life if you dont already have it. So dont lose heart.

You said I wont ever turn away from God which would indicate that you may be proud. Not realizing how easily you could be let go of completely by God so that you totally rejected Him. You should ask Him for forgiveness for this if this is the case. Pride is very very destructive and keeps you from being helped by God.

Also it is very common to think that things are sinful that are not actually sinful. To the degree that one makes it impossible for them to live without "sinning" all the time.

What are the main things that you think are sinful that you cant stop doing? Feel free to send me a pm if its embarrassing for you. I will try to help you sort through them.

Otherwise, instead of giving up which you seem to be considering I would advise you to abstain from your "sin" for whatever length of time you can manage. Whether that is one week a month or one day a week or one hour a day. Whatever it is that you can maintain on a regular basis. And then start praying every day that God would give you the help you need. Once a day at least or 3 times a day would be better. Or more if you can. This is what we call seeking God. Prayer and fasting. God always sees when we do this and He always answers. Meditate on 1 Kings 21 and the story of how God had mercy on arguably the most sinful man in the history of Israel because he sought the Lord in fasting. If you do this God will give you the help you need. Whether that is salvation or just a better understanding of sin or whatever it is you need. The key is to be consistent. The more you seek Him the faster He will answer but you dont want to burn yourself out by trying to fast and pray more than what you can physically or mentally sustain.

If you can also read 5 to 10 chapters of the bible a day as this will be like a fountain of strength and help that keeps you going as you seek Him.

I would advise you to keep fighting for the breakthrough you need. If it really is salvation you need then it is a very very bad idea to decide to just put this off. God is very merciful. But if we reject Him and completely turn away from Him there is no guarantee that we will ever get a second chance to find salvation. In fact most people usually dont it seems to me.

And lastly, do not trust in the sovereignty of God to save you. You have to seek. You have to fight to enter the kingdom of God. If you do nothing and just wait around for Gods sovereignty to drag your limp body over to Jesus for salvation you will never find salvation. That doesn't mean you earn your salvation but it does mean you fight to attain the understanding that is saving faith.

Matt 11:12

From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.
 
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i feel bad that my posts sadden you. I dont want anyone who reads what i write on here to feel sad. I wish i could write something that would lift your spirits, but i just dont have it in me.
Here's a hug! :hug: We are one big family in Christ. When one hurts we all hurt.
 
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i feel bad that my posts sadden you. I dont want anyone who reads what i write on here to feel sad. I wish i could write something that would lift your spirits, but i just dont have it in me.
My name is Zack. If you ever want to PM me you can. God bless you
 
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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.

If you feel persecuted within yourself then that is a good and positive sign. Keep pressing in. Never give up.
 
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It takes some years to grow up spiritually, @Lifelong_sinner


What are some of the things that you struggle with that - ' God says to do ' ?

Is the question. Are you following really what man tells you to do rather than God? It is a hard narrow road following the Son of God; To have love for the Father and have love for others. To live by the spirit - is a conditional response made in part by us.

The spirit produces love, kindness, patience, gentleness, mercy, forgiveness, forbearance, self-control, longsuffering...

12 Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, to acknowledge those who work hard among you, who care for you in the Lord and who admonish you. 13 Hold them in the highest regard in love because of their work. Live in peace with each other. 14 And we urge you, brothers and sisters, warn those who are idle and disruptive, encourage the disheartened, help the weak, be patient with everyone. 15 Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always strive to do what is good for each other and for everyone else.

16 Rejoice always, 17 pray continually, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. 1 Thess 5:

On a side note due to my belief - I believe hell is over with according to what the bible says it was emptied at the judgement of the generation which was to come to past back then, and hell was emptied and all people were judged. I believe that Hell and Satan and his Demons were all cast in the lake of fire and done away with. Not many people believe these things but it is encouraging to know that the bible does talk about the doing away with Hell, Satan, and His Demons.

Jesus Christ had victory over, sin, death, grave, hell, satan, and sin. Praise be to the Father in heaven...

(I also do not believe people after this life when they pass away as an unbeliever are going to be tortured forever and ever and ever and believe people take that way to far) But do believe all will be resurrected and some will be placed outside of the heavenly jerusalem; because that is what they desired. And those who desired to be with God will go into the heavenly jerusalem.

Just some thoughts doesn't mean view is correct but it what i believe because of what the bible says.
 
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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.

You know, God never says in His word that we are supposed to make ourselves holy. We are to be holy, yes, as He is holy, but the how of such a life is God's responsibility, His work, not yours. He tells us again and again in His word that He changes us.

John 15:4-5
4 "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me.
5 "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.

Philippians 1:6
6 For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.


Philippians 2:13
13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.


Romans 8:13
13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

2 Corinthians 3:18
18 And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24
23 Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
24 He who calls you is faithful; he will surely do it.

Jude 1:24-25
24 Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy,
25 to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

As you're discovering, we don't have it in us to be the people God wants us to be. We're weak, sin-cursed, selfish; we don't want what God wants, we want what we want. And so, when we set out to try to be the person only God can make us to be, failure is the inevitable result. Like begets like: a dog begets a dog, a cat begets a cat, a horse begets a horse, and you can only beget more of you. The only one who can "beget" godliness in us is God.

Strangely, many Christians don't actually believe this. Instead, knowing the commands of God and the sort of life He wants His children to live, they set out to fashion such a life in their own power for God. Only when the strain of doing so becomes too much do they finally turn to God for help. It sometimes takes many years of this cycle of self-effort and failure before the Christian person is finally convinced of their utter inability to live God's way consistently and joyfully. But when they arrive at this moment, it is then that they see that God never asked them to do for Him what He always intended He should do for them. They'd got the whole thing backward and frustration and failure was the result.

Why doesn't the Spirit work more transformatively in the children of God? Why doesn't he, when he takes up residence within a believer, immediately change them such that they are able to live God's way well, with power and consistency? Well, because His control of the believer and the transformation he works in a believer as a result of this control happens only in response to the believer constantly choosing God's will and way over their own. The Holy Spirit will control us and change us but not under a circumstance where he has made us essentially a robot or puppet. No, we must throughout every day be yielding, surrendering, submitting ourselves to the Holy Spirit (Romans 6:13-22; Romans 8:14; Romans 12:1; James 4:7; 1 Peter 5:6; Micah 6:8), to his will and way, and in this place of humble submission to him, he moves to change us.

Under no other condition will the Spirit work to change us and make us more like Christ. If we are set upon trying to make the Christian life happen for God, if we think it is our power that changes us, our commitment, and determination, and ability to sacrifice for God by which we come to be "vessels fit for the Master's use", we have placed ourselves in the transformation process where God should stand. And the result is always ultimately failure.

When we submit to God, does He promise to instantaneously alter us to be like Christ? When we yield ourselves will we be immediately, and profoundly, and forever changed? No. In the midst of our constant yielding to God, to the Holy Spirit, transformation occurs progressively, subtly and naturally, like a branch growing out from the trunk of a tree.

You could watch a young sapling for hours on end, even for days, and never notice at any particular moment the growth that is nonetheless occurring in it. But if you went away for six months and returned, the growth of the sapling would be very evident. So, too, for the surrendered Christian being changed by God. Instead of the torturous straining that most Christians endure when they are trying to do God's "job" for Him, the change He works in us by His awesome power is so natural and profound we often only realize it has happened looking back over weeks and months. When God changes us, He alters our desires. We stop wanting what we want and what the world urges us to want and we find ourselves naturally, happily even, desiring God's way more and more and acting in accord with this desire, forsaking selfish and sin and living a holy, Christ-centered life.

It is so reflexive, though, for us to submit to God and then to set about stuffing down what we want, and sacrificing for God, and exerting ourselves in righteous living. All God asks of us, though, is to receive, remain in and reflect His work in us. And when we do, we encounter incredible but natural change, joy rather than onerous, tearing sacrifice, peace and rest instead of frustration and failure.

Galatians 3:3
3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?


1 Corinthians 1:29-31
29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God.
30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”


Philippians 2:13
13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
 
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hello all. anyone ever get so tired of the struggle to do what God says to do?? i am. i have tried and tried the last couple of years, but im not getting anywhere. i wont ever turn away from God, but i am trying to come to terms with what seems to be a fact, that im going to hell. im trying to shift the focus of hell, from eternal torment, to i deserve it. and that me going there is justice and that every part of creation will praise God for me being sent there. sounds odd, but a duck has to quack and swim. and i have to repeatedly, willfully sin. daily.

i do envy people who found salvation to be easy. i wish everyone could.

Remember that the new life in Jesus Christ is not about just believing in a God, but possession of the Lord Jesus as your Savior and Lord of your life for eternity in Heaven. That means a RELATIONSHIP with Him (making Him your best Friend daily), not just a religious belief and practice. Try walking with Him daily and being thankful to Him for His sacrifice to save you! Our Creator-God sent Him to SAVE us, and that must be taken sincerely and not just seeing Him as a teacher, etc. Receive Him into your heart!
 
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You know, God never says in His word that we are supposed to make ourselves holy. We are to be holy, yes, as He is holy, but the how of such a life is God's responsibility, His work, not yours. He tells us again and again in His word that He changes us.

John 15:4-5
4 "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me.
5 "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.

Philippians 1:6
6 For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.


Philippians 2:13
13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.


Romans 8:13
13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

2 Corinthians 3:18
18 And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24
23 Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
24 He who calls you is faithful; he will surely do it.

Jude 1:24-25
24 Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy,
25 to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

As you're discovering, we don't have it in us to be the people God wants us to be. We're weak, sin-cursed, selfish; we don't want what God wants, we want what we want. And so, when we set out to try to be the person only God can make us to be, failure is the inevitable result. Like begets like: a dog begets a dog, a cat begets a cat, a horse begets a horse, and you can only beget more of you. The only one who can "beget" godliness in us is God.

Strangely, many Christians don't actually believe this. Instead, knowing the commands of God and the sort of life He wants His children to live, they set out to fashion such a life in their own power for God. Only when the strain of doing so becomes too much do they finally turn to God for help. It sometimes takes many years of this cycle of self-effort and failure before the Christian person is finally convinced of their utter inability to live God's way consistently and joyfully. But when they arrive at this moment, it is then that they see that God never asked them to do for Him what He always intended He should do for them. They'd got the whole thing backward and frustration and failure was the result.

Why doesn't the Spirit work more transformatively in the children of God? Why doesn't he, when he takes up residence within a believer, immediately change them such that they are able to live God's way well, with power and consistency? Well, because His control of the believer and the transformation he works in a believer as a result of this control happens only in response to the believer constantly choosing God's will and way over their own. The Holy Spirit will control us and change us but not under a circumstance where he has made us essentially a robot or puppet. No, we must throughout every day be yielding, surrendering, submitting ourselves to the Holy Spirit (Romans 6:13-22; Romans 8:14; Romans 12:1; James 4:7; 1 Peter 5:6; Micah 6:8), to his will and way, and in this place of humble submission to him, he moves to change us.

Under no other condition will the Spirit work to change us and make us more like Christ. If we are set upon trying to make the Christian life happen for God, if we think it is our power that changes us, our commitment, and determination, and ability to sacrifice for God by which we come to be "vessels fit for the Master's use", we have placed ourselves in the transformation process where God should stand. And the result is always ultimately failure.

When we submit to God, does He promise to instantaneously alter us to be like Christ? When we yield ourselves will we be immediately, and profoundly, and forever changed? No. In the midst of our constant yielding to God, to the Holy Spirit, transformation occurs progressively, subtly and naturally, like a branch growing out from the trunk of a tree.

You could watch a young sapling for hours on end, even for days, and never notice at any particular moment the growth that is nonetheless occurring in it. But if you went away for six months and returned, the growth of the sapling would be very evident. So, too, for the surrendered Christian being changed by God. Instead of the torturous straining that most Christians endure when they are trying to do God's "job" for Him, the change He works in us by His awesome power is so natural and profound we often only realize it has happened looking back over weeks and months. When God changes us, He alters our desires. We stop wanting what we want and what the world urges us to want and we find ourselves naturally, happily even, desiring God's way more and more and acting in accord with this desire, forsaking selfish and sin and living a holy, Christ-centered life.

It is so reflexive, though, for us to submit to God and then to set about stuffing down what we want, and sacrificing for God, and exerting ourselves in righteous living. All God asks of us, though, is to receive, remain in and reflect His work in us. And when we do, we encounter incredible but natural change, joy rather than onerous, tearing sacrifice, peace and rest instead of frustration and failure.

Galatians 3:3
3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?


1 Corinthians 1:29-31
29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God.
30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”


Philippians 2:13
13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

i have tried what you have said, and nothing has happened. But i will say this, if me getting to Heaven means being turned into a robot here, i’d rather have no free will and be made into a robot now rather than having free will and going to hell later.
 
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What I laid out in my post to you is the normal Christian life, the life we are to live everyday with God. It isn't something you just try to see if it works for you or not. Walking with God in daily submission isn't optional for anyone who really wants a changed life. If you'd read and understood my post, you'd have realized this.
 
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What I laid out in my post to you is the normal Christian life, the life we are to live everyday with God. It isn't something you just try to see if it works for you or not. Walking with God in daily submission isn't optional for anyone who really wants a changed life. If you'd read and understood my post, you'd have realized this.

i did read it, and i understood it. My point is, i’ve been trying for just over 2 years. And nothing is happening. I have tried to do everything you plus a bunch of other people said to do. Nothing. At some point, you just accept defeat. And accept your fate.
 
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