Purpose of the sabbath

SabbathBlessings said:

Where does God write in one of His holy laws that the first day is something other than a working day?

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Every time your question fails to address the fact that God did not specify which day of the week. 6 days shall you work but on the 7th rest. If I begin working on Monday and I work 6 days then the 7th day would be Sunday.

BNR32FAN said:

Where did I ever say that the 4th commandment was deleted or erased? I said by honoring Jesus on Sunday we are keeping the Sabbath.

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I think you would agree that we should honor Jesus all 7 days of each week - correct?

SabbathBlessings said:

I can show you scripture for each of these questions where God told us these questions are answered by only the seventh day because that is the day that is significant to God. Why does it matter? Because God said so!

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But the one thing you can’t show me is the same exact thing I’ve been pointing out the whole time is that God never specified a specific day of the week.

LoveGodsWord said: ↑ All Gods' laws were given by God but only the 10 commandments were spoken by God alone and written with Gods' own finger on two tables of stone to give us the knowledge of good and evil; sin (when broken) and righteousness (when obeyed) according to the scriptures in Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Psalms 119:172 and according to James if we break anyone of them we stand guilty before God of sin in James 2:10-11. So God's 10 commandments are the standard of moral right doing (righteousness) to God and man when obeyed from the heart and moral wrong doing (sin) when disobeyed from the heart.

God's eternal laws (10 commandments) as the standard of sin and righteousness and the knowledge of good and evil are different from the Mosaic "shadow laws" for remission of sins under the old covenant that are outlined in the Levitical Priesthood, the earthly Sanctuary, animal sacrifices and sin offerings that were required to receive God's forgiveness which were shadow laws of things to come under the new covenant (see Hebrews 7:1-25; Hebrews 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-27 and Hebrews 10:1-22.)

According to the scriptures it was God that made this distinction when he spoke and wrote the 10 commandments alone to Gods' people *Exodus 32:16 and separated the Mosiac book of the covenant *Exodus 24:7 from the 10 commandments written on stone in the Ark (house) of the covenant (see Deuteronomy 31:26; Deuteronomy 10:5). Paul did not need to make any distinctions between the law because he already knew the roles of all of God's laws were as already outlined in the old testament scriptures. In the days of Jesus and the Apostles their bible was the old testament scriptures as these scriptures pointed to the coming of Jesus as the Savior of the Word. You have to close your eyes to Gods' Word to think that there are not different categories and purposes of law in the old and new testament scriptures.

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Your response here...

BNR32FAN said:

But you don’t only keep the 10 commandments, do you? You also teach that we must keep the dietary laws as well. So right here your setting a double standard. Your picking and choosing which commandments suite you while ignoring all the others and boasting in your self righteousness placing yourself above others as if you are more righteous than they are because you keep certain commandments that they don’t when you yourself don’t keep all of God’s commandments either.

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All I can do without him is sin for I am a sinner *Romans 3:10. Who am I that he should love me *John 3:15-21? I love him now because he first loved me 1 John 4:19 but now I walk by faith in him that loves me *2 Corinthians 5:7; Galatians 5:16 and abide in him and he in me *John 15:1-10. His commands are his promises to me so I can follow him and walk in his ways *2 Peter 1:4. The victory that overcomes the world is only found in him and he is the Word that creates all things and works in those who believe *Romans 10:17; 1 John 5:4. Those that do not believe are still in their sins and do not know him *1 John 2:3-4; 1 John 3:6-10. If they have called the master of the house names, how much more shall they call them of his household *Matthew 10:25? There is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known *Matthew 10:26; 1 Corinthians 4:5.

BNR32FAN said:

Where did He say that He made the 7th say of the week for us or that He isn’t Lord of every day of the week? Do you think He’s only Lord over Saturday?

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Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man Mark 2:27. Man was created on the sixth day and the very next day is God's Sabbath.

God is the Creator of all things. God deemed 6 days to work. The seventh He sanctified (set aside) blessed and told us to keep holy. Exodus 20:8-11

He is Lord over everything so who are we to change the day God told us to keep holy? Why is this so hard? God is trying to bless us. This is His special day. A delight.

Isaiah 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, From doing your pleasure on My holy day, And call the Sabbath a delight, The holy day of the LORD honorable, And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways, Nor finding your own pleasure, Nor speaking your own words,

If we obey He blesses us:

14:Then you shall delight yourself in the LORD; And I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth, And feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father. The mouth of the LORD has spoken.”

LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Your interpretation of Acts of the Apostles 15 has Paul in contradiction with Paul when he says to the Corinthians believers sometime latter in 1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. According to the scriptures Acts 15 was over the question; "Is circumcision a requirement for salvation for new gentile believers?" (Acts of the Apostles 15:1-2) not are God's 10 commandments the standard of good and evil; sin and righteousness. You have Paul contradicting Paul in 1 Corinthians 7:19; also compare Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; Romans 13:8-10; Romans 3:31. You may want to revisit your teachings here. According to the new covenant the physical sign of circumcision was a "shadow law" of a new heart through faith in God's new covenant promise (Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34; Ezekiel 36:24-27; 1 Corinthians 7:19; Jeremiah 4:4; Deuteronomy 30:6; Romans 2:28-29)

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Your response here...

BNR32FAN said:

How does my interpretation of Acts 15 have Paul contradicting himself?

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The answer to your question is in the post you are quoting from. You did not read it did you.

LoveGodsWord said:

Sorry to hear about your injury yesterday although your non responses to my posts or questions go way past yesterday.

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Thanks for your concern I’ve just been busy trying to answer all the posts I have since I’ve been gone like 20+ replies and have gotten 15 more before I could answer the 20+ I’ve been working on so sometimes they get lost in the mess of replies.

LoveGodsWord said:

Your response here...

The answer to your question is in the post you are quoting from. You did not read it did you.

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I don’t see my interpretation of Acts 15 anywhere in that post can you highlight it please? That way I can correct you on what my interpretation of Acts 15 actually is.

BNR32FAN said:

Where did He say that He made the 7th say of the week for us

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1. "Remember the Sabbath day to keep IT holy... the seventh day IS the Sabbath of the LORD" Ex 20:8,10
2. "THE Sabbath was made FOR mankind not mankind made for the Sabbath" Mark 2:27 (speaks of the making of BOTH mankind AND the Sabbath in Gen 1:2-2:4

BNR32FAN said:

or that He isn’t Lord of every day of the week?

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Mark 2:27 "the Son of Man is LORD of THE Sabbath"
Is 58:13 "the Sabbath is the Holy Day of the LORD" - no secular activity allowed on it

Gentiles singled out and blessed for choosing not to profane God's Sabbath
Is 56:6 “Also the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord,
To attend to His service and to love the name of the Lord,
To be His servants, every one who keeps the Sabbath so as not to profane it,
And holds firmly to My covenant;

BNR32FAN said:

He was asked “which ones”. Jesus did specifically say not to worship idols and to love God with all your heart soul and mind. He never said anything about keeping the Sabbath throughout His entire ministry nor did his apostles. You accused me of deflecting those questions so I’m still waiting for you to quote where you previously asked me them.

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Well that is not true at all. Jesus taught us how to keep the Sabbath in Matthew 12:1-12 and that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath day. He also taught us in Mark 2:27-28 that he being the Lord of the Sabbath made the Sabbath for all mankind. Funny how many conveniently miss these scriptures don't you think?

Bob S said:

Question: when did the ten commandments given to only Israel on Mt Sinai become the standard for all the gentile nations of the World? When did the meat laws and the tithing laws given only to Israel at Mt Sinai become the standard for gentile nations around the World?

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New covenant *Matthew 24:14 (more scriptures provided here and here linked)

Bob S said:

1Jn3: 19-24 19 "This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: 20 If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24 The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us."

If we love Jesus and our fellow man, will we worship other gods and idols?????? Why is it you use that worn out question when you know quite well that Jesus gave us the command to love others as He loves us?? Would Jesus steal from us? Would Jesus do any of the multitude of sins against us? Why is it you cannot see that in 2Cor 3: 6-11 it tells us that the ten commandments have been done away and we are now under the guidance of the Holy Spirit??


It was deleted with all of them according to Paul in 2Cor 3: 6-11. Why do you keep using the question about where does it say keeping the first day when everyone knows that there is nothing about keeping any day in the new covenant???


Where does it tell gentiles anywhere in the Bible that they have to keep any day?


Where does it say anywhere in all of scripture that God blessed a day for gentiles??


Where does it tell us it is not??


Where does it tell us that any day was ever sanctified for gentiles?


Where does it tell gentiles to remember any day?


Where does it say it won't? Every day will be a day of worship.


Where does it tell gentile nations He is Lord of a day for them?


God only wrote in His Holy laws for Israel that the other six day were for work. Do you abide by His laws to labor for six days?


God didn't tell US, He told Israel. And I can show you that the Sabbath law was only significant for one nation, Israel. It does not matter for anyone today because God gave Israel a new covenant and it is not a covenant of works of the law, it is a covenant of grace.

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Disagrees with 1 John 2:3-4 [3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. Let's talk about what it means to love God and our fellow man? Do you love your fellow man by stealing from them or not stealing from them *Romans 13:8-10?

BNR32FAN said:

You mean the first day of the week. He never said what day of the week.

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He said "The SEVENTH day IS the Sabbath of the LORD" Ex 20:10
And Heb 8:6-12 reminds us that it is Christ speaking at Sinai

In Ex 16 "TOMORROW IS the Sabbath" - and so for 40 years no manna on Sabbath - if those who followed God could not figure that one out - they went without food one day each week for 40 years.

BNR32FAN said:

But the one thing you can’t show me is the same exact thing I’ve been pointing out the whole time is that God never specified a specific day of the week.

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It is hard to follow your logic at that point given that the texts keep making the opposite point as what you are claiming.

BNR32FAN said:

But the one thing you can’t show me is the same exact thing I’ve been pointing out the whole time is that God never specified a specific day of the week.

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I'm so confused how you can say that.

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
- Genesis 2:2

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
- Genesis 2:3

Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
- Exodus 16:26

And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
- Exodus 16:27

See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
- Exodus 16:29

So the people rested on the seventh day.
- Exodus 16:30

But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
- Exodus 20:10

For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
- Exodus 20:11

Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed.
- Exodus 23:12


It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
- Exodus 31:17

Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.
- Exodus 34:21

Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
- Exodus 35:2

But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
- Leviticus 23:8

And on the seventh day ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work.
- Numbers 28:25

But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
- Deuteronomy 5:14

Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no work therein.
- Deuteronomy 16:8


For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
- Hebrews 4:4

LoveGodsWord said:

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Well that is not true at all. You did not read the scriptures in the post you were responding to did you. That is Paul talking about two sets of laws. The context of the scriptures demonstrate this so your cherry picking claim is not true. If you read the scriptures provided for you did you would not have posted this. For your interest the scriptures listed show Paul talking about two different sets of laws. I asked you a question and see you did not answer it but I understand why. What laws was Paul talking about in those scriptures?

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I’ll say this again neither Jesus nor His apostles EVER stated that we must keep the Sabbath. Throughout their entire ministry they specifically mentioned keeping every other commandment from the 10 commandments except for the Sabbath. Your whole point is that they mentioned keeping the 10 commandments but they mentioned keeping every single one of the except for the Sabbath. Why, because the Sabbath is not a moral law, it’s a commandment made FOR MAN so that by God’s commandment man would be entitled to a day of rest every week.

BNR32FAN said:

Thanks for your concern I’ve just been busy trying to answer all the posts I have since I’ve been gone like 20+ replies and have gotten 15 more before I could answer the 20+ I’ve been working on so sometimes they get lost in the mess of replies.

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That is ok take your time. I am happy to provide some links if it might be helpful. Think of it as a discussion though and we are all friends in Christ. Don't take the posts and scriptures shared with you personal as we all want to follow Jesus and if we might need some correction from time to time we should pray that God will guide and be our teacher and not harden our hearts to hearing and seeing God's Word.

God bless

BobRyan said:

He said "The SEVENTH day IS the Sabbath of the LORD" Ex 20:10

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If I begin working on Monday and I work 6 days then the 7th day is Sunday. HE DID NOT SAY THE 7TH DAY OF THE WEEK.

BNR32FAN said:

I’ll say this again neither Jesus nor His apostles EVER stated that we must keep the Sabbath. Throughout their entire ministry they specifically mentioned keeping every other commandment from the 10 commandments except for the Sabbath. Your whole point is that they mentioned keeping the 10 commandments but they mentioned keeping every single one of the except for the Sabbath. Why, because the Sabbath is not a moral law, it’s a commandment made FOR MAN so that by God’s commandment man would be entitled to a day of rest every week.

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Well that is not true. Let's be honest here. Jesus and all the Apostle kept and obeyed Gods' 4th commandment just like the rest of God's 10 commandments. Why would Jesus need to re-state we need to keep the Sabbath when they were already keeping it for 1000's of years already? Just the fact that Jesus taught us how to keep the Sabbath correctly makes your point here a mute one. (Matthew 12:1:12; Mark 2:27-28); As Paul says in the Aramiac "Therefore it remains for the people of God to keep the Sabbath" - Hebrews 4:9.

BNR32FAN said:

If I begin working on Monday and I work 6 days then the 7th day is Sunday. HE DID NOT SAY THE 7TH DAY OF THE WEEK.

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Here let me help you with this one... Your asking what day is the "seventh day" right and trying to argue that any day can be the "seventh day". Well that is not scriptural. For example if any day can be the "seventh day" then any day can be the "first day of the week" so then with your line of thinking. What day is the resurrection? Also, Genesis 2:1-3 and Exodus 20:8-11 is in reference to the "seventh day" of the creation week which is the context to Genesis 1 to Genesis 2:1-3. So yes Exodus 20:8-11 which is referring back to Genesis 2:1-3 is in reference to the "seventh day" of the week.