Giving up on seeking God and Farewell ...

TruthSeek3r · May 30, 2021

It's been about a year and a half since I began to seek the truth. And I've learned a lot. More than I ever expected to learn. I've learned things about the supernatural realm that I never imagined existed. And all by myself. By putting in the effort and the time to investigate. The information is all out there. But you will never hear anything if you do not seek. Scientists do not take the spirit realm seriously. The mainstream media does not take the spirit realm seriously. You'll never hear serious content about the supernatural if your only source of information is the mainstream news. You have to investigate by yourself. And I've been obsessively doing so for over 1.5 years. I can proudly say that I've read and watched hundreds of testimonies, documents, and books, sometimes to an obsessive degree, far surpassing my expectations when I just got started on this. I even created a spreadsheet where I attempted to categorize and tag in a more systematic way some of the testimonies I've watched, which is available on this link.

Unfortunately, all this effort has amounted to nothing ...

All I've gained is theoretical knowledge, but my experience remains empty. What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time. After a year and a half of getting nowhere, I've finally made up my mind: I'm giving up on all this. I don't see the point anymore.

I'll go back to a secular lifestyle and let God take the initiative. If at some point He makes up His mind and decides to surprise me, He's more than welcome to do so. But until that happens, I'll do my best to try to surf this wave that we call life and existence.

I wish you luck in whatever your quest may be.
Best,
TruthSeek3r

timothyu · May 30, 2021

That's usually how things work. Once you stop looking for something, there it is.

GospelS · May 30, 2021

Thanks for sharing. I really appreciate you genuinely seeking. The most you need to know and seek is Jesus Christ to find God. I’m confident God will be gracious towards you and He has already come to find you. You will soon see.

returntosender · May 30, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
It's been about a year and a half since I began to seek the truth. And I've learned a lot. More than I ever expected to learn. I've learned things about the supernatural realm that I never imagined existed. And all by myself. By putting in the effort and the time to investigate. The information is all out there. But you will never hear anything if you do not seek. Scientists do not take the spirit realm seriously. The mainstream media does not take the spirit realm seriously. You'll never hear serious content about the supernatural if your only source of information is the mainstream news. You have to investigate by yourself. And I've been obsessively doing so for over 1.5 years. I can proudly say that I've read and watched hundreds of testimonies, documents, and books, sometimes to an obsessive degree, far surpassing my expectations when I just got started on this. I even created a spreadsheet where I attempted to categorize and tag in a more systematic way some of the testimonies I've watched, which is available on this link.

Unfortunately, all this effort has amounted to nothing ...

All I've gained is theoretical knowledge, but my experience remains empty. What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time. After a year and a half of getting nowhere, I've finally made up my mind: I'm giving up on all this. I don't see the point anymore.

I'll go back to a secular lifestyle and let God take the initiative. If at some point He makes up His mind and decides to surprise me, He's more than welcome to do so. But until that happens, I'll do my best to try to surf this wave that we call life and existence.

I wish you luck in whatever your quest may be.
Best,
TruthSeek3r

That's sad,. Do you still love God?

Unqualified · May 30, 2021

i bet you didn’t believe any of it.

Neogaia777 · May 30, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
It's been about a year and a half since I began to seek the truth. And I've learned a lot. More than I ever expected to learn. I've learned things about the supernatural realm that I never imagined existed. And all by myself. By putting in the effort and the time to investigate. The information is all out there. But you will never hear anything if you do not seek. Scientists do not take the spirit realm seriously. The mainstream media does not take the spirit realm seriously. You'll never hear serious content about the supernatural if your only source of information is the mainstream news. You have to investigate by yourself. And I've been obsessively doing so for over 1.5 years. I can proudly say that I've read and watched hundreds of testimonies, documents, and books, sometimes to an obsessive degree, far surpassing my expectations when I just got started on this. I even created a spreadsheet where I attempted to categorize and tag in a more systematic way some of the testimonies I've watched, which is available on this link.

Unfortunately, all this effort has amounted to nothing ...

All I've gained is theoretical knowledge, but my experience remains empty. What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time. After a year and a half of getting nowhere, I've finally made up my mind: I'm giving up on all this. I don't see the point anymore.

I'll go back to a secular lifestyle and let God take the initiative. If at some point He makes up His mind and decides to surprise me, He's more than welcome to do so. But until that happens, I'll do my best to try to surf this wave that we call life and existence.

I wish you luck in whatever your quest may be.
Best,
TruthSeek3r

Well, Christianity is not primarily about a supernatural experience, and is more how you live out your life anyway, how well you follow Jesus teachings in respect to how you are with others, etc, so maybe you should focus more on that anyway, etc, and that might just be when God will finally decide to start showing Himself to you at some points along the way maybe, etc...?

But even if He doesn't, or never does, etc, Christianity is really a lot more about how well you follow His teachings (Christ's) in respect to how you are with or around others anyway, etc...

So focusing more on that, is never ever a "bad thing" at all, etc...

Just be good to people, and be a good person in the way that Jesus teaches us, and maybe God will show up somewhere, or at some certain points along the way, etc...

But even if He never does, choosing to live your life in respect to the way you are with others in the way that Jesus teaches us, until the day you die, etc, is never, ever a "bad thing", etc, and just might be the key to your true saving or true salvation in the end anyway, etc...

God is very, very big on how we are with other people, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

paul1149 · May 30, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time.

That is not possible. The Father wants none to be lost, but for all to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus. Usually when this happens there's an issue of the heart that needs addressing. Jesus gave us the parable of the sower so we could do diagnostics and know what we're up against.

Traditionally I also was very intellectual and fact-based in my approach. I would read the Bible for hours and not get much out of it. It wasn't until God got a hold of my heart, in my case through painful circumstances, that I put the intellectual pursuit aside and sought Him with my whole soul.

The mind has its place, of course, and it's a critical and vital one. But it can become an impediment when a mental rut comes to define and limit us.

Jeremiah 29.11 and Jn 7.17 talk about seeking God with a yieldedness. It's only a prayer away.

"If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. - Jhn 7:17
'You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jer 29:13

The Righterzpen · May 30, 2021

timothyu said:
That's usually how things work. Once you stop looking for something, there it is.

Yes, this is true. God tends to "sneak up on people" and "smack us up the side of the head."

:swoon:

Macchiato · May 30, 2021

timothyu said:
That's usually how things work. Once you stop looking for something, there it is.

yes. God will appear bc hes going after that one lost sheep.

Funny how that works.

Neogaia777 · May 30, 2021

And it's also not a crime, to not share Jesus with people, as in talking about Him, until they ask or inquire it of you anyway, and I think God might even like it a whole heck of a lot more even, if maybe you show them Him (Jesus) in you first maybe, and a whole heck of a lot more so first maybe, until they do finally inquire and/or ask you about Him anyway, etc...

Then comes the "talk" or "talking", etc...

I think God might even think that "talk" is maybe even "very, very cheap" maybe even otherwise, etc...

And according to the rest of the world, is the number one main problem they see with most religious people and Christians in general, etc...

And sometimes I wonder if God maybe even agrees with them maybe sometimes maybe, etc...

Anyway...

God Bless!

Swan7 · May 30, 2021

I understand your plight because I was there once. I had sought God in all the wrong places, and I too thought I was seeking God when I was so far from Him. All it took was a sincere and honest heart of repentance; and allowing Him into my life. God turned my life around and it was hard, so difficult, but it was necessary for me to go through the fire and come out unscathed. In some ways, I still go through that fire and it becomes less scary because I know Who is waiting on the other side.

I also thought I could never be good enough for God, that His standard is too high for me to reach. I had to come to accept that as the truth and allow Christ to lift me up, so I am worthy of Life because of Him. I had to re-learn so much through His Word with His Spirit on how to live His way. I hope one day you will really allow God to have 1st place in your life and never lose Hope.

Macchiato · May 30, 2021

Swan7 said:
I understand your plight because I was there once. I had sought God in all the wrong places, and I too thought I was seeking God when I was so far from Him. All it took was a sincere and honest heart of repentance; and allowing Him into my life. God turned my life around and it was hard, so difficult, but it was necessary for me to go through the fire and come out unscathed. In some ways, I still go through that fire and it becomes less scary because I know Who is waiting on the other side.

I also thought I could never be good enough for God, that His standard is too high for me to reach. I had to come to accept that as the truth and allow Christ to lift me up, so I am worthy of Life because of Him. I had to re-learn so much through His Word with His Spirit on how to live His way. I hope one day you will really allow God to have 1st place in your life and never lose Hope.

How were you seeking him in all the wrong ways?

Tolworth John · May 31, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me.

God is not found through gathering knowledge or by seeking experiences.

God is to be found in your service for him or through your daily and corporate worship of him.

Meet for bible study with local Christians.

disciple Clint · May 31, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
It's been about a year and a half since I began to seek the truth. And I've learned a lot. More than I ever expected to learn. I've learned things about the supernatural realm that I never imagined existed. And all by myself. By putting in the effort and the time to investigate. The information is all out there. But you will never hear anything if you do not seek. Scientists do not take the spirit realm seriously. The mainstream media does not take the spirit realm seriously. You'll never hear serious content about the supernatural if your only source of information is the mainstream news. You have to investigate by yourself. And I've been obsessively doing so for over 1.5 years. I can proudly say that I've read and watched hundreds of testimonies, documents, and books, sometimes to an obsessive degree, far surpassing my expectations when I just got started on this. I even created a spreadsheet where I attempted to categorize and tag in a more systematic way some of the testimonies I've watched, which is available on this link.

Unfortunately, all this effort has amounted to nothing ...

All I've gained is theoretical knowledge, but my experience remains empty. What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time. After a year and a half of getting nowhere, I've finally made up my mind: I'm giving up on all this. I don't see the point anymore.

I'll go back to a secular lifestyle and let God take the initiative. If at some point He makes up His mind and decides to surprise me, He's more than welcome to do so. But until that happens, I'll do my best to try to surf this wave that we call life and existence.

I wish you luck in whatever your quest may be.
Best,
TruthSeek3r

I have found many times that just when I have decided that I will never gain a certain skill or understand a certain academic principle, I relax just a little and almost immediately I master it. You may have been trying too hard, why not just invite Jesus to enter your heart and let Him do all the heavy lifting.

longwait · May 31, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
It's been about a year and a half since I began to seek the truth. And I've learned a lot. More than I ever expected to learn. I've learned things about the supernatural realm that I never imagined existed. And all by myself. By putting in the effort and the time to investigate. The information is all out there. But you will never hear anything if you do not seek. Scientists do not take the spirit realm seriously. The mainstream media does not take the spirit realm seriously. You'll never hear serious content about the supernatural if your only source of information is the mainstream news. You have to investigate by yourself. And I've been obsessively doing so for over 1.5 years. I can proudly say that I've read and watched hundreds of testimonies, documents, and books, sometimes to an obsessive degree, far surpassing my expectations when I just got started on this. I even created a spreadsheet where I attempted to categorize and tag in a more systematic way some of the testimonies I've watched, which is available on this link.

Unfortunately, all this effort has amounted to nothing ...

All I've gained is theoretical knowledge, but my experience remains empty. What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time. After a year and a half of getting nowhere, I've finally made up my mind: I'm giving up on all this. I don't see the point anymore.

I'll go back to a secular lifestyle and let God take the initiative. If at some point He makes up His mind and decides to surprise me, He's more than welcome to do so. But until that happens, I'll do my best to try to surf this wave that we call life and existence.

I wish you luck in whatever your quest may be.
Best,
TruthSeek3r

Its not that the mainstream media does not know anything about the supernatural or that they don't take it seriously. They don't want us to know about it. Its kept hidden from us until they decide its safe for them to reveal it.

God reveals himself to us through His Word. Instead of spenting hours and hours and hours of your precious time looking for truth in the supernatural realm of satanism, occult and new age (you won't find truth there) why not spent the same amount of time on the Bible (there are also hidden books of the Bible to read) and see how God will reveal Himself to you. Also don't go back to your secular ways of life because you are upset with God. He has His own way of doing things.

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Isaiah 55:8-9

TzephanYahu · May 31, 2021

Hi @TruthSeek3r

That’s very sad to hear. But one question - what made you think you could find God with knowledge?

dóxatotheó · May 31, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
It's been about a year and a half since I began to seek the truth. And I've learned a lot. More than I ever expected to learn. I've learned things about the supernatural realm that I never imagined existed. And all by myself. By putting in the effort and the time to investigate. The information is all out there. But you will never hear anything if you do not seek. Scientists do not take the spirit realm seriously. The mainstream media does not take the spirit realm seriously. You'll never hear serious content about the supernatural if your only source of information is the mainstream news. You have to investigate by yourself. And I've been obsessively doing so for over 1.5 years. I can proudly say that I've read and watched hundreds of testimonies, documents, and books, sometimes to an obsessive degree, far surpassing my expectations when I just got started on this. I even created a spreadsheet where I attempted to categorize and tag in a more systematic way some of the testimonies I've watched, which is available on this link.

Unfortunately, all this effort has amounted to nothing ...

All I've gained is theoretical knowledge, but my experience remains empty. What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time. After a year and a half of getting nowhere, I've finally made up my mind: I'm giving up on all this. I don't see the point anymore.

I'll go back to a secular lifestyle and let God take the initiative. If at some point He makes up His mind and decides to surprise me, He's more than welcome to do so. But until that happens, I'll do my best to try to surf this wave that we call life and existence.

I wish you luck in whatever your quest may be.
Best,
TruthSeek3r

testing a God is inductive its never gonna get a definitive conclusion you should focus on seeking spiritually not seeking mentally and dont say to me you were everyone says they seek God but they arent they are actually not seeking him it would be ambiguous of me to say that you are focusing on the wrong things

dóxatotheó · May 31, 2021

TzephanYahu said:
Hi @TruthSeek3r

That’s very sad to hear. But one question - what made you think you could find God with knowledge?

exactly God isnt findable with our false knowledge even through code of ethics and constant polemics a person would never find him its like a river with multiple fish in it you cant catch the big fish(grace) with simple bait

dóxatotheó · May 31, 2021

TruthSeek3r said:
It's been about a year and a half since I began to seek the truth. And I've learned a lot. More than I ever expected to learn. I've learned things about the supernatural realm that I never imagined existed. And all by myself. By putting in the effort and the time to investigate. The information is all out there. But you will never hear anything if you do not seek. Scientists do not take the spirit realm seriously. The mainstream media does not take the spirit realm seriously. You'll never hear serious content about the supernatural if your only source of information is the mainstream news. You have to investigate by yourself. And I've been obsessively doing so for over 1.5 years. I can proudly say that I've read and watched hundreds of testimonies, documents, and books, sometimes to an obsessive degree, far surpassing my expectations when I just got started on this. I even created a spreadsheet where I attempted to categorize and tag in a more systematic way some of the testimonies I've watched, which is available on this link.

Unfortunately, all this effort has amounted to nothing ...

All I've gained is theoretical knowledge, but my experience remains empty. What is the point of wasting hours and hours and hours a week to gain information, if the information doesn't translate into actual experience? I thought that I was approaching God, the truth, but I was wrong. God just doesn't want to reveal himself to me. That's a hard reality I've come to accept with time. After a year and a half of getting nowhere, I've finally made up my mind: I'm giving up on all this. I don't see the point anymore.

I'll go back to a secular lifestyle and let God take the initiative. If at some point He makes up His mind and decides to surprise me, He's more than welcome to do so. But until that happens, I'll do my best to try to surf this wave that we call life and existence.

I wish you luck in whatever your quest may be.
Best,
TruthSeek3r

and imma add to my second paragraph wat you calling is a secular reasoning which is a principle of ignorance which is bad its ok too seek God through metaphysics and quantum theories which i have and done and you also can seek God through miracles or you can take time off and just focus on reading the bible life isnt based upon us and our level of reasoning but rather the love and mercy of YHWH

Lost4words · May 31, 2021

Never give up on God.

Be strong. Persevere in prayer.

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