Where is anyone asking anyone to care about anyone else? The thread is about statistics showing how police disproportionately target minority groups. Try to stay on topic.
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Police are NOT hunting down black people
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Most crime is intraracial, arguing that black people killing other black people is somehow different from white people killing other white people is a racist idea. Do you think that because you're black, the argument is more valid? Most Black people do not commit crimes, so saying the community overall "morally degraded" because of the actions of a minority is racist.
Your response also typifies the ignorance of statistics and use of poor logic. Most people do not commit crimes, including Black people; thus arguing that the entire community is degraded because of what the minority of the population does is racist, ignorant and just plain incorrect. I know that might elicit a response to say that most police officers are not racist, which is true. But movements like Black Lives Matter (BLM) exist because of the lack of accountability. If police officers are held accountable for their crimes and misconduct, the same way a civilian is held accountable, then there would not be a BLM movement. That's what the OP is missing, the disproportionate policing is a problem, but the bigger issue is the lack of accountability. If there are more verdicts like the Chauvin trial, where police officers are held accountable, then our society will be in much better shape.
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And the statistics show that minority groups disproportionately create crimes that perpetuate the stereotype that cause police to target them.
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its amazing how you had to twist that to get to black people are bad.
"blacks killed almost twice as many whites as whites killed blacks"
and do you suppose the fact you got number off the "single victim/single offender chart might skew things?
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"Hunting down" is hyperbole for "profiling."
Ask any person of color (or immigrant). Profiling exists. In my small city, apparently the immigrants have text groups. If one sees police on a particular road or highway, they pull over when it's safe to alert the group to use a different route. Why? Because they're profiled. I have known immigrants pulled out of their car and beaten--in front of their small children. I have known immigrants who were incarcerated and deported--having been stopped after dropping kids off at school.
I know many black people harassed and targeted---for no reason. Statistics show it's true.
Just because a black person isn't "hunted down" doesn't mean that "profiling" is acceptable. It's not.
We need to hold our police to a higher standard than letting them "profile" and saying, "Well, at least they're not hunting them down."
Ask any person of color (or immigrant). Profiling exists. In my small city, apparently the immigrants have text groups. If one sees police on a particular road or highway, they pull over when it's safe to alert the group to use a different route. Why? Because they're profiled. I have known immigrants pulled out of their car and beaten--in front of their small children. I have known immigrants who were incarcerated and deported--having been stopped after dropping kids off at school.
I know many black people harassed and targeted---for no reason. Statistics show it's true.
Just because a black person isn't "hunted down" doesn't mean that "profiling" is acceptable. It's not.
We need to hold our police to a higher standard than letting them "profile" and saying, "Well, at least they're not hunting them down."
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Yes...it is true that most black people do not comit crimes. But it is also true that most crimes are committed by black people. Particularly young black men. If the black community is ever going to see improvement, this problem needs to be addressed. We as a community have to take responsibility and stop blaming white folk. We, as a community, failed these young men. Not the government. Not white folks. A good place to start is teaching kids about respect for authority and respect for themselves. Get these boys to pull up their pants and get back in school. Teach these girls to stop getting their values from strippers and prostitutes. Get them back to Church!
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Police can be affected by biases that persist even if there are improvements, you cannot remotely substantiate a claim that we are in some vacuum free of social influences, because that doesn't follow at all with any evidence
No one is saying police are behaving EXACTLY like that, but that there are tendencies that haven't been addressed in policing for centuries as to whether police should be used to solve EVERY problem rather than divesting their military grade funding to things like social safety nets, mental healthcare access, etc.
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Haha, that's not what I said, because I'm not claiming there are police from 2 centuries ago that are still alive, the problem is social influences and trends that haven't been addressed meaningfully, because 1) qualified immunity and 2) outdated norms that people think, such as the thin blue line as it was originally used (suggesting that police are all that keep us from anarchy)
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Acting like it's all the black community's fault is just victim blaming and gaslighting; acting as if it isn't the responsibility of society as a whole rather than pinning all responsibility on the group that is suffering disproportionately because of social norms and biases that are setting people up for failure, black people especially
You don't get to play Uncle Tom and excuse white inaction because you think it isn't remotely a problem that has been encouraged by white people, complacent in such things. Nope, instead, you make it purely about intentional aspects rather than systemic ones that are not going to just change because we work harder within that system
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Let me clear that up the majority of black people approve of the job the police are doing.
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I accept the fact that you have no evidence to confirm something that is obviously a false narrative.
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AND there may be people who feel that way but that does not alter the fact that the majority of Black people say that the police are doing a good job. I remember many people who when they did not get the promotion they wanted blamed it on all kinds of things, I also know of many people who blame the police for catching them breaking the law.
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unlike like those who want to say something disparaging about the police every time they get a chance, the police do not take random shots at people.
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Do you need me to provide you with the statistics that prove that Black people commit violent crimes at a rate far beyond White people. Try to understand that if you have one race committing crime at a much higher rate than another race they are going to have contact with the police at a much higher rate, now that is simple isn't it?
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And studies that look at policing in relation to crime in the area have found that the disproportionate policing is unrelated to crime.
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Once again I am ready to review you evidence that disproportionate policing is unrelated to crime. I am quite confident that it is a well known fact that Black people commit crime at a substantially higher rate than other races and that has everything to do with why they are contacted by police at a disproportionate rate.
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