Police are NOT hunting down black people

[Oompa Loompa]

"statistically"

100 out of 1000 white people die from a disease.

15 out of 100 Black people die from a disease.

Which group is the disease most deadly to? The white group who has the larger total number of deaths or the black group who has the higher rate of death?

But even ignoring your error in statistical interpretation:



You should be mad about that too, though...

I don't understand. Blacks have 6x more interactions than whites. But whites get shot more than blacks. Why not conclude that cops are hunting down whites and just harassing blacks?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

And one could also point out that blacks kill far more blacks than police do so one could say that blacks are hunting blacks more than any other group in America.

Yes...we are our own worst enemy.

 

[SigurdReginson]

However the majority is saying nothing of the kind in fact the majority Black people approve of the police.

Look... If you have black coworkers, friends, or family, ask them if they have any experiences where they were target by police because they were black. Chances are, every single one of them has a story. That's been my experience, at least.

 

[SummerMadness]

And one could also point out that blacks kill far more blacks than police do so one could say that blacks are hunting blacks more than any other group in America.

Considering most crime is intraracial, pointing this out is nothing more than a racist argument.

 

[Larniavc]

In 2018, the latest year for which federal data is available, there were about 3.7 million police-initiated contacts between law enforcement and black people, wherein nonlethal force or the threat of force was used. That same year, according to the Washington Post, 232 black people were shot dead by police. That would mean .006% of police-initiated contacts between law enforcement and black people, wherein nonlethal and lethal force was used, resulted in the death of a black person. The media myth that police are hunting down black people

Maybe not. But they seem quite prepared to take an opportunity shot when one presents itself.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Considering most crime is intraracial, pointing this out is nothing more than a racist argument.

How is that a racist argument? It appears that young black men are the greatest contributer to homicide rates in general. Is racism to blame? Or the black community that failed them? Look no further than Cardi B and Lil Nas X (both glorified by the black community) to find the answer.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Look... If you have black coworkers, friends, or family, ask them if they have any experiences where they were target by police because they were black. Chances are, every single one of them has a story. That's been my experience, at least.

Well, if over half of all crimes in the country were caused by people wearing purple hats, purple hat wearing people would likely have the most interactions with police.

 

[SummerMadness]

How is that a racist argument? It appears that young black men are the greatest contributer to homicide rates in general. Is racism to blame? Or the black community that failed them? Look no further than Cardi B and Lil Nas X (both glorified by the black community) to find the answer.

It's racist to suggest that intraracial homicides are somehow different if committed by black people. Most crime is intraracial. If you are white and are murdered, it will mostly likely be by a white person. If you are black and are murdered, it will most likely be by a black person. If you are Asian and are murdered, it will most likely be by an Asian person. Singling out "black on black" crime makes no sense as most crime is intraracial. What do entertainers have to do with any of that? Nothing.

Well, if over half of all crimes in the country were caused by people wearing purple hats, purple hat wearing people would likely have the most interactions with police.

Profiling people for wearing hats is just plain stupid. Skin color and purple hats are not determinants of crime, behavior is.

 

[SilverBear]

I have not even started but I can more than prove my point. I am just being polite.

This is not the first time we've went to this rodeo

 

[SilverBear]

OK please provide evidence that there is a systemic bias in the police as a whole.

your OP provided that information, see post #3

 

[SilverBear]

Yet statistically, more whites are shot and killed every year than blacks. So we may conclude that cops are hunting white people.

And now add in deaths while in police custody...

The simple fact remains that the majority of whites shot by police are engaged in violent crimes and shoot outs with police. The majority of black people shot by police were stopped for a traffic violation

 

[SilverBear]

Yeah and every year almost half of the homicides committed in the US are by blacks despite them only making up for12% of our population. So perhaps this may provide some incite as to why your statistics are the way they are. According to those numbers blacks are far more prone to violence than any other race in the US. So that might explain why police are more prone to resorting to the use of force when apprehending blacks, because they have to.

according to the FBI homicide data table in 2019 there were 2948 homicides in the United States. 2594 of these homicides were commuted by whites and 246 by blacks and 108 by other or unknown race. So in reality African American's commit 8% of the homicides not almost half.

 

[Larniavc]

Look no further than Cardi B and Lil Nas X

How many people have they killed?

 

[grasping the after wind]

I mean, even given how terribly myopic the statistical interpretation is, no one is claiming they're hunting them down, this isn't the police making sport of a race, it's systemic biases that are still around in society because of how police were used to, in no small part, hunt down runaway slaves in the 18th and 19th centuries

I doubt we have any police so old that they are clinging to the habits they had acquired in the 1800s.

 

[grasping the after wind]

according to the FBI homicide data table in 2019 there were 2948 homicides in the United States. 2594 of these homicides were commuted by whites and 246 by blacks and 108 by other or unknown race. So in reality African American's commit 8% of the homicides not almost half.

I do not know where you saw the incorrect information you quoted but below is a link to the actual information.
According to the information in the FBI that that I linked to.
In 2019, Of the 3299 white victims of homicide 2594 were killed by white people and 566 by black people , of the 2906 black victims of homicide 246 were killed by white people and 2474 were killed by black people. That being the case, blacks killed almost twice as many whites as whites killed blacks in 2019. Additionally, African Americans make up about 14% of the population but according to the FBI stats committed and were the victims of close to 50% of all homicides in 2019. The black community is very much overrepresented in both the victim and perpetrator classes of homicides in the US.

FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

 

[Oompa Loompa]

How many people have they killed?

Countless have been killed while being influenced by the debauchery of their likes.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

according to the FBI homicide data table in 2019 there were 2948 homicides in the United States. 2594 of these homicides were commuted by whites and 246 by blacks and 108 by other or unknown race. So in reality African American's commit 8% of the homicides not almost half.

Citation please. Because the 2019 FBI statistics show a total of 4,716 homicides (1,892 white offenders and 2,524 black offenders).

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

If you are going to Cite statistics don't falsify the result to push a false narrative. So please tell me what percentage of 4716 is 2524?

Spoiler

53.5% of all homicides were done by black men

 

[KCfromNC]

And one could also point out that blacks kill far more blacks than police do so one could say that blacks are hunting blacks more than any other group in America.

Sure, but one would sound quite suspicious doing so in a thread about police disproportionately targeting minorities. It would make people start to wonder why one would want to avoid talking about the thread subject and instead retreat to far-right dogwhistles.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It's racist to suggest that intraracial homicides are somehow different if committed by black people. Most crime is intraracial. If you are white and are murdered, it will mostly likely be by a white person. If you are black and are murdered, it will most likely be by a black person.

The statistics show that black folks are better at killing each other than white folks. You cannot blame racism for that. All signs point to a moral degradation.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Sure, but one would sound quite suspicious doing so in a thread about police disproportionately targeting minorities. It would make people start to wonder why one would want to avoid talking about the thread subject and instead retreat to far-right dogwhistles.

Why should the police care about the black community when the black community doesn't care about the black community unless a white cop kills somebody? The point that I am trying to make is that if the black community wishes to be respected, the fastest way is to begin respecting themselves.