Studyman: " You and some random Jewish Commentator preach God's Sabbath was only for the Jews."
The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for
the generations to come as a lasting covenant.
It will be a sign between me and the Israelites for ever, for in
six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on
the seventh day he abstained from work and rested.’”
When the LORD finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai,
he gave him the two tablets of the Testimony, the tablets of
stone inscribed by the finger of God
Exodus 31:16-19 NIV
There is no mention of gentiles or non-Jews having any obligation to observe the Sabbath.
There is mention, it's just that to show it contradicts the philosophy you are promoting here. .
Ex. 12:
49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
That seems pretty clear to me, and it is written in your own Bible. Why you wouldn't consider it is a mystery.
Is. 56:
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
So then a question for you.
According to the Holy Scriptures, what happens to Jews and Non-Jews who refuse to take hold of God's Covenant, who refuse to keep from polluting God's Sabbaths?
In your religious philosophy, Can I trust Paul to answer this question?
Rom. 2:
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
According to the God of the Bible, is it "Evil" to pollute God's Sabbath? Is "Polluting God's Sabbath a "Lawful" thing to do? When Jesus said it was Lawful to do "Good" on the Sabbath, is polluting the Sabbath good?
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
According to the God of the Bible, is it Good not to pollute God's Sabbath? Is it Lawful; to do Good, or Evil, on God's Sabbath?
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
It SEEMS LIKE Your entire religion if founded on the Philosophy that God treats people according to the DNA they were born with. That HE is, above all things, a Respecter of Persons. Overthrowing one man of a certain DNA for disobedience, while giving Grace to another man of different DNA for doing the exact same thing.
At some point a man who is seeking the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness is going to have to accept GOD's Word over the "other voice" in the garden.
Your statement "There is no mention of gentiles or non-Jews having any obligation to observe the Sabbath" is simply not Truth. Yes, it is a popular religious philosophy in the land we are born into, but as you can see, the Holy Scriptures do not support it..
But you have the Oracles of God in your own home, in your own hand. You don't need to let these other voices, who quote some of God's Words, influence you to reject God's Own Word's as this same voice convinced Eve. We are in the New Covenant now. I implore you to trust in the Oracles of God HE has so Graciously delivered into your own home..
In John Gill's commentary, he says that even non-Jews who were interested in learning about Judaism were not required to keep the Sabbath or, more surprisingly, even allowed to keep it.
<< Yea, they not only say, they were not obliged to keep the sabbath, but that it
was not lawful for them to observe it; and that it was even punishable with
death them to regard it; for so they say,
"a Gentile that keeps the sabbath before he is circumcised, is guilty of death,
because it is not commanded him.'' (Debarim Rabba) >>
Paul rebukes and corrects both of these deceivers.
Rom. 2:
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Through who Dale? Is it not through those who Claim the God of Abraham as their God, but openly preach against His Own Words?
25 For circumcision (Being a Jew) verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision (Jewness) is made uncircumcision. (Gentile)
If a Jew pollutes God's Sabbaths, or hates his brother without a cause, he is considered by God to be a Gentile, not a Child of Abraham.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision (Gentile) keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision (Gentileness) be counted for circumcision (Children of Abraham)?
Exactly as Isaiah said. If a Non-Jew "Joins himself to the Lord" and "Keeps the Righteousness of God's Law" (including Loving your neighbor and not polluting God's sabbaths) HE will be counted by God as a Child of Abraham and heirs to the Promise.
27 And shall not uncircumcision (Gentile) which is by nature, (uncut) if it fulfil the law, (Doesn't pollute God's Sabbaths and doesn't hold a grudge against the brother) judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
And shall not the uncut who Loves God and is renewed in their mind, no longer a "Child of Disobedience", Judge the "Home born" who pollutes God's Sabbaths and refuses to join themselves to the Lord"?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; (Jewish DNA) neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: (deny loose skin, cut it off the penis)
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly ( Do the Work's of Abraham from the heart) and circumcision is that of the heart, (Deny your old self, cut it out of your life) in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Then he [Jesus] said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not
man for the Sabbath.
So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.
Mark 2:27-28 NIV
The second of these statements is often quoted by SDA but I have never heard an SDA quote the first. "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." Jesus limits the importance of the Sabbath.
The SDA interpret the statement that Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath to mean the opposite of what it says. Jesus is clearly saying that He does not intend to be bound by all the rules that the Pharisees have either made up concerning the Sabbath, or at the least, judge too strictly.
I'm not SDA, this topic is not about SDA, so it seems irrelevant. I am replying because your words contradict the Word of God which became Flesh.
In John Gill's commentary on Mark 2:28, he says:
"Therefore the son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Meaning himself, who had a power not only to dispense with it, but to abrogate it as he
did, with the rest of the rituals of the ceremonial law."
This is his religious philosophy that you have bought into, even though you have the Oracles of God in your own home.
If you were to read it for yourself you would find why Jesus make the statement in Mark.
Lev. 23:
1 And the LORD (Word of God which became flesh) spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Of course Jesus, this same Lord who became Flesh, would say HE is Lord of the Sabbath, that HE Made for Man. He didn't create Man for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath for man.
Does your, or John Gill's unbelief in His Words make them void or of none effect? Paul said "God Forbid", that means no.
So once again I have to choose between the Word's of the Lord's Christ Himself, and John Gills.
John preaches;
"Meaning himself, who had a power
not only to dispense with it,
but to abrogate it as he did, with the rest of the rituals of the ceremonial law.
But Jesus Himself said;
Matt. 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
John is not only thinking what Jesus plainly said not to even think, but he is openly Preaching and working to convince others, that Jesus did what HE himself said HE didn't come to do.
John means no harm, any more than you or any more than Eve meant to harm her Husband. You have just been listening to the "other voice" and convinced of things about God and HIS Word that are just not so. A hard pill for "many" to swallow.
Yes, the Sabbath is part of the ceremonial law.
In John Gill's commentary on Matthew 12:8 we find:
"For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day."
...
...as he was the institutor of the sabbath
among the Jews, that being a ritual, and of mere positive institution, could
dispense with it, and even abrogate it at his pleasure."
Also,
"... so as he [Jesus] is Lord of all other things, he is of the sabbath, and has a power of
dispensing with it, and even of abolishing it; see Col 2:16 and since the Lord of the sabbath
had a power of dispensing with it, and made use of it in the cases of David
and his men, and of the priests in the temple formerly".
Again, the religious philosophy of John Gill VS. the instruction of the Lord's Christ Himself.
Col. 2:
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Did Jesus let any man judge HIM in His obedience to all these things of God? Did Paul?
1 Cor. 5:
6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Dale, I truly hope you will heed the warning of the Christ and His People regarding the other voices which influence so many.
Col. 2:
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Matt. 24:
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.
You have the oracles of God in your own hands, and the instructions of the Christ who shed HIS Blood for you. Listen to Him.
The "other voice" also tried to influence Jesus, HE gives us the secret to overcoming the "other voice" if we would only have Faith in Him.
Matt. 4:
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
I asked a question of you out of God's Love. Please think about it and answer it.
