ICONO'CLAST
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Voting for those who murder babies is direct rebellion against God.Yep, and I allow them to make that choice. They can choose to have an abortion or not. I will not force my view on them.
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Voting for those who murder babies is direct rebellion against God.Yep, and I allow them to make that choice. They can choose to have an abortion or not. I will not force my view on them.
Those outside of Christ are perishing.we are all judged according to what we do, that includes whether we accept or reject Christ Jesus.
Rejecting Jesus = eternal damnation sadly.
In Roman's 3:23......all sinned at one point in time.[aorist tense]Many were made sinners that’s the key phrase here. Again nothing to support that we are guilty of Adam’s sin. We have inherited his sinful nature.
You are out of sync with the historic creeds. Calvin and Luther simply agreed with the Council of Ephesus 0f 431. You don't agree with it. They condemned Premillrnnialism as heresy. You're off on that. Who should I believe? The Church or you?
They sinned in Adam because they are a part of Adam genetically. Hebrews says Levi paid tithes in Abraham to Melchizedek when Levi was not yet born.
In Roman's 3:23......all sinned at one point in time.[aorist tense]
That was the fall.
Voting for those who murder babies is direct rebellion against God.
Wow! That’s a cruel God who punishes those He loves. So much for the vessels of wrath in Romans 9.yes He does
Im sorry I don’t understand the relevance here can you please explain in more detail?
“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” (1 Corinthians 15:22).
Meaning, if we abide in Adam, we die, but if we abide in Christ, we will be made alive.
Acts17:30 -31does not agree with you.
No one seeks God so your choice idea is false.
Men are rebels against God....the only choice they make is luke 19:14
Voting for those who murder babies is direct rebellion against God.
Those outside of Christ are perishing.
If Jesus does not seek and save them they are lost
Wow! That’s a cruel God who punishes those He loves. So much for the vessels of wrath in Romans 9.
That is not biblical. You really need to reassess your theological position. The vessels of mercy were taken from the same lump the vessels of mercy were in. This is God’s electing work coming to fruition.they have been given the way out but they rejected Him.
God still loves them but He will not force anyone to follow Him. He says come follow me, but then it is up to us whether we do or not.
The cost is high, give up our lives, not everyone is prepared to do that.
That is not biblical. You really need to reassess your theological position. The vessels of mercy were taken from the same lump the vessels of mercy were in. This is God’s electing work coming to fruition.
No it’s not. You’re saying God loves those who “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.”[Revelation 14:9-10] Those outside of Christ are outside of God’s love. And on the day of judgment, His wrath is fully meted out upon the vessels of wrath.its Biblical, just not to Calvinists.
No it’s not. You’re saying God loves those who “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.”[Revelation 14:9-10] Those outside of Christ are outside of God’s love. And on the day of judgment, His wrath is fully meted out upon the vessels of wrath.
But you chasten them, not punish them by tossing them into a lake of fire! God chastens whom? Those He loves. The lost on the day of judgment get His wrath, not chastisement. Huge difference. Please reconsider this unbiblical stance of yours.God loves all His creation.
A parent still loves their child, and that child can still be a recipient of that parents wrath if they've disobeyed their parent. similar thing.