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James 2:15-16: is this situation one of those things God reserves for Himself?
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I'm sure you'd like to think that about yourself. But what you've said to someone who is hurting is worse than no help at all.
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Job saw it as what it was, his friends saw it as the outcome of what Job had done wrong. In fact, the opposite was true.
Job was targetted because he was faithful, we are told. This testing was to make him stronger and more patient--even in affliction--and loved above all others. Who else had been told this beautiful thing that God tells Job? About the creation and the creatures. About the very nature of God.
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Jesus says call no man your father on earth. Paul wasn't there to hear it.
Jesus calls the Gospel of the Kingdom the "actual gospel". And tells His discipled Apostles to teach to the gentiles what He had taught to them. One flock, one shepherd... John 10.
The Gospel of the Kingdom is what Jesus came to preach. He says that He went away to prepare a place for us that where He is His called, chosen, and faithful will be... the preparation is the Resurrection which is our Salvation and separates us from the people who will be brought up and sentenced at the White Throne.
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So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them. —Matthew 7:12
He's grieving. Are you incapable of understanding that? Whether you agree with his response is immaterial. He's losing his wife.
Rejoice with them that rejoice; weep with them that weep. —Romans 12:16
Yours in His Service,
~Bella
So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them. —Matthew 7:12
He's grieving. Are you incapable of understanding that? Whether you agree with his response is immaterial. He's losing his wife.
Rejoice with them that rejoice; weep with them that weep. —Romans 12:16
Yours in His Service,
~Bella
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I have a prayer thread in the Singles forum. I will add you and your wife in the morning. God willing, you receive an answer and some peace. I'm sorry you're hurting.
Yours in His Service,
~Bella
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wow
Without the texts of the Gospels you calmly toss out the window... you will look for God in vain.
I'm still waiting for this answer.
Matthew 7:3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
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I almost feel sorry for you.
I almost feel sorry for you.
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Have you ever had a girlfriend? Have you ever been loved by a woman? Has anyone ever desired to share their life with you until death? That's what we're talking about.
If you've never been chosen. If you've never had a woman entrust herself to your care completely. You can't fathom what it's like to lose it.
Yours in His Service,
~Bella
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This life isn't the point of life - our position in eternity is the point of this exercise.
All of us, every single one of us, will die. If your wife doesn't die now, she and you will still have to face her death at some point.
The fact is you love her, but your holding onto the wrong thing here because your hanging onto this life that's transient, instead of focusing on her, and your, eternal state where you will indeed live... and for a far longer time span than these few years. It's not called eternity for nothing.
God help you to accept that with Grace... God loves us enough to give us far better than this, and it is that end we live for... not this life.
We live here while we have breath, and then we move on and live again with Our Lord and our God, where death cannot touch us, and pain doesn't exist.
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You seem to be thinking that you're talking to the OP-man, to whom you will owe an apology for all eternity... apparently.
And questioning someone's status as a "true Christian"... a matching set of eye-planks.
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I'm putting myself in your shoes @Questioning Brother for a moment. I don't know how I'd handle the same. I would be in pain. Watching my spouse suffer would break my heart. I wouldn't want platitudes or well meaning words. I'd want the dignity to express my hurt and confusion without judgment.
I lost my grandfather a few years ago unexpectedly. He walked into the hospital and never came out. He knew my grandmother as a child. They were married for 60 years. She spent most of her life in his company. And she was never the same.
We prayed over him as he drew his last breaths. I watched my hero slip away. He was the epitome of all I desired in a man and spouse. He is my standard. He left before I found it. The gravity of his absence remains. Because I miss him so much. That will never depart.
Solomon said there's a time and season for all things. Right now, you need to process this in the manner that seems best. I can't tell you how to do it. I'd be torn up too. Just the thought of it makes me sad.
Yours in His Service,
~Bella
I lost my grandfather a few years ago unexpectedly. He walked into the hospital and never came out. He knew my grandmother as a child. They were married for 60 years. She spent most of her life in his company. And she was never the same.
We prayed over him as he drew his last breaths. I watched my hero slip away. He was the epitome of all I desired in a man and spouse. He is my standard. He left before I found it. The gravity of his absence remains. Because I miss him so much. That will never depart.
Solomon said there's a time and season for all things. Right now, you need to process this in the manner that seems best. I can't tell you how to do it. I'd be torn up too. Just the thought of it makes me sad.
Yours in His Service,
~Bella
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It's not platitudes though...
I've been through death more than most, I've lost my father when I was 22, my daughter when she was 23, all of my grandparents, and tonight my mother may not make it through the night.
There is a difference in Christianity though, as a Christian. As a Christian we have a hope... we know what happens to our loved ones who die...
The Bible tells us:
"But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope." 1 Thessalonians 4:13
This man is grieving like I did prior to accepting Christ as my savior, prior to when I knew our hope.
He needs to accept that we DO have a hope, that death is not the end, and his wife will be with Christ after she passes from here.
He needs to hear it until it reaches his heart... because he's hanging onto the wrong thing...
He can either kill himself with grief, or he can hold onto our Savior and all the promises of God and have peace that her suffering is almost over, and she will soon be alive with Christ.
It won't stop tears for the loss, but it does allow one to find peace with our Lord.
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We're not in same place mentally, emotionally, or spiritually. While that may be true in the long run, right now he's elsewhere. I take people where they are. That's the starting point. Sometimes what's needed isn't words or advice. It's a shoulder, a hug, or display of loving-kindness.
If I was watching my husband slip away I wouldn't want to hear that. There will be time for those discussions in the future. But right now, I wouldn't entertain them.
Pain isn't a dirty word. You can't rationalize it, shove it under a rug, or wrap it in religion. You have to face it head on. The process differs for everyone. Some take longer than others. That's okay too. He doesn't have to mimic anyone. This is his journey and God's walking beside him. He'll get there.
Yours in His Service,
~Bella
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A. I wish you comfort about your mother, and hope she recovers.
B. I haven’t lost a child, but I have lost both parents and my older sisters in addition to my grandparents. If you get past about thirty to 40 you start having a list like that.
C. Of course I know about the afterlife. To find out about that takes literally 5 min in any church. That doesn’t mean I don’t want more time with her here. Maybe after she passes I will be able to come to peace with God about it, but definitely not now. A similar situation is in the Bible, even if it doesn’t give me hope for it to work out the way I want. It is David and Bathseba’s first child. While the child lived, David beseeched the Lord for it. He came to peace when it was gone.
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The gospel works, and God is not 'indebted' to anyone. Sometimes life is hard even as christian, if we keep trying to be faithful and keep praying God is going to do great things. And you can get satisfaction from God you can't get anywhere else in this world.
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You missed the point of the post. God’s “help” is exactly what the person in the verse is doing. Telling me it is good, but not actually helping.
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