I am trying to convert a Muslim and I could use a hand debunking this video he brought up.

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All of you? That's a sweeping statement. Mohamed knew about Jesus, but Islam relegates Jesus to be inferior to Mohamed. Islam also claims that Jesus was not crucified but died and was buried, not raised from the dead. Their version of Jesus is not the real, risen King of Kings and Lord of Lords
. Jesus is considered to be a prophet like Abraham and Moses, He’s important , it’s just that Mohammad is considered to be the last prophet . Jews and Christians are The People of the Book , Muslims consider us to have incomplete versions of the Word of God. You’re going to have to get a much better understanding of Islam if you want to convert someone and an ignorant straw man version isn’t helping . You’ll get laughed at and ignored
 
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But it is good to at least try to show them that Muhammad was not a good person.

Search for ex Muslims testimonies on what turned them from Islam, to faith in Jesus, that’s a good place to start.

I have told Muslims online before, that 700 years before an angel calling himself Gabriel appeared to Mohammed and dictated the Quran, (which claims that God has no son), the apostles pre-empted all angelic revelations that contradicts what they taught, by saying that if even an angel appears and says anything other than what they gave us, he is accursed - for satan himself appears as an angel of light, to deceive.

The Bible that came 7 centuries before the Quran, says if you reject Gods Son, you have neither the Father OR Son.

1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
 
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Echoing what others have said, argument and debate likely isn't the best way to win someone to Christ. However, that doesn't mean it isn't important. If you or your friend haven't checked him out yet, David Wood is probably the best source for arguments against Islam I've found. Here's his YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Acts17Apologetics/playlists
 
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Amen, but I could use some Quran verses and Hadiths showing how immoral and bonkers Islam is.
Sure, I can help there. This is only a small selection. Google has a great deal but it can be hard to find.
 

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Well, if I were Saint Francis, I would try to show that Muhammad was wrong about the globe.
Meh. I think you should concentrate on the positives of Christianity. But you know the guy you are talking to.
Contrary to popular belief, medieval Christians did not think that the Earth was flat.
And yet that truth is denied by flat-earthers even today. They can be found on CF.

Islamic astronomers were pretty good. Even if there are some crazy Hadiths. After Thomas Aquinas Christian astronomers did pretty well. Some of the very best were the Jesuits in the 1500's and 1600's.
 
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Perhaps the best approach is not to focus too tightly on one point, such as Aisha's exact age, but to raise a number of objections to the "perfect" man Muslims are told to emulate, Muhammad, who was allowed more wives than all other men, also finagled and took his own son's wife.

Check out Acts17Apologetics on youtube, and perhaps point your friend directly there. The cover any number of angles brilliantly.
 
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. Jesus is considered to be a prophet like Abraham and Moses, He’s important , it’s just that Mohammad is considered to be the last prophet . Jews and Christians are The People of the Book , Muslims consider us to have incomplete versions of the Word of God. You’re going to have to get a much better understanding of Islam if you want to convert someone and an ignorant straw man version isn’t helping . You’ll get laughed at and ignored
I know more than you imagine. I've lived in a Muslim country, not for long and while I was young. We had a Muslim servant. It is ignorant stupidity (e.g. Islam worships the same God as Christians) that blinds people to Islam's true agenda. Islam is what Islam does. Check out the news (when it's permitted to be reported) and see just how "peaceful" Islam is.
 
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WE think so , THEY didn’t . That was the 7th century after all . None of the abrahamic faiths treated women as if they were anything but property to be treated as the men wished
Not true. Although it was still a man's world across the globe, the Jewish women had it better than pretty much anywhere else.

For example, the sister of Moses was a prophetess, you had judges such as Deborah lead men in battle, you had Ruth save the entire Jewish nation and revered for it, etc.

No where that I know are women held in as much high esteem and even positions of authority, but especially not in Islam. In fact, I defy you to find any similar stories in Islam. If there are any, I would like to hear them.
 
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You aren't going to "convert" a Muslim that wants to reject Jesus because even if you prove that Muhammed had sex with a 9 year old girl in wedlock that won't persuade him to abandon Islam. There are other arguments that can be made but the problem you may end up having is a lack of intellectual honesty which often accompanies the religion when it comes to their arguments.
The problem is, you are incapable of converting anyone. That is the job of the Holy Spirit.

May I suggest prayer first?

in terms of Islam though, they believe some pretty wild stuff, such as God pulling Jesus off the cross and letting some other poor chap to die in his stead.

But the story of God allowing a righteous man like Jesus to die on a cross presents Islam with some pretty challenging problems, such as why he would allow that? For you see, Islam is a religion of military conquest. And unfortunately for Mohammad, he does not quite fit the mold of a Biblical prophet of having been persecuted and martyred as God also allowed those righteous men to die as well. After all, Mohammad converted with the sword and did all of the oppressing himself.

But the one troubling thing about prophesy for a Muslim should be, where is Mohammad mentioned in the Bible? Now the Messiah is referred to repeatedly, but nowhere do we see mention of Mohammad. I think that such a prophet of high esteem and has billions of followers and one that supposedly saved the Abrahamic religion from apostasy would be mentioned somewhere. But Mohammad would just say that the scriptures have been corrupted and leave it at that. Conversely, Christ repeatedly referred to prophesy as a means of showing his credentials of authenticity. Then again, Revelation does refer to a false prophet, and I tend to believe Mohammad might just be that prophet.

And lastly, anyone can sit down and write a Bible, and many have done it. But the Bible is special in that it is centuries of men writing about the same God and cohesive. But the most amazing thing of all, the Son of God had others write about him, via eye witness accounts. This gives more credibility to who and what Jesus was, something Mohammad simply does not have.
 
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Anyway, I commend you. Not many people witness and share their faith in America. That number goes significantly down when it comes to evangelical Christians in Islamic countries. There's a reason why Jesus has taken it upon Himself to visit this people group in dreams and visions. Could it be not only because He loves them and wants them to come to the Truth; but because not many believers are willing to evangelize the Muslims themselves in these areas?
 
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If you are going to do this ministry I would highly advise you to begin watching people like Christian Prince, David Wood and Sam Shamoun on Youtube.





 
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The Aisha issue is only really relevant based on the belief that Mohammed was the most righteous person on the face of the earth etc. I have seen the Christian Prince and Sam Shamoun really take a wrecking ball to those notion, as well as demonstrating that he is a false prophet by various scriptures of the Bible and situations that take place in the Koran. But this sort of only ends up deconverting Muslims and most likely making them more atheists than Christians but kind is a necessary step.


Really the biggest issue with Muslims will be their family and friends who they fear will abandon them etc. That is an issue even if you do your work and they believe in Jesus and see problems in the Koran, the fact they really may potentially need to forsake all for the Kingdom of God is a big hurdle.
 
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If you are going to do this ministry I would highly advise you to begin watching people like Christian Prince, David Wood and Sam Shamoun on Youtube.





I'm not the OP here... and not called to minister to muslims..... yet.
 
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I'm not the OP here... and not called to minister to muslims..... yet.

Thanks I meant that other guy... with the sparse post. and reedited to be quoting him.

wow Talking about minimalism.... One of the shortest OPs I've seen.

Take care.
 
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In the title of your thready you say "I am trying to convert a Muslim". The first thing you need to realize is that you can't convert anyone. Only the Holy Spirit has the power to do that.

But it is good to at least try to show them that Muhammad was not a good person.
I could use some Quran verses and Hadiths showing how immoral and bonkers Islam is.
I kinda gave up on debating this guy. So I showed him some links that debunk Islam and passages that call into question the integrity of Islam.
We are told to love God and to love our neighbor (Matthew 22:36-40). We can show love towards God by faithfully sharing the gospel, and we can show love to our Muslim neighbors by showing them respect.

Sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and respect; (1 Peter 3:15)

When discussing Islam with a Muslim, don’t criticize their religion, Muslims, or Muhammed. Our aim is not to condemn, insult, or embarrass Muslims, but to love, respect, and accept them. A Christian is a representative of Jesus Christ and we should respect Muslims' opinions and ways of believing even if we strongly disagree.

Here are a few additional suggestions I have for reaching out to our Muslim neighbors that I have shared on this forum in the past.

"Conduct yourselves with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of the opportunity." (Colossians 4:5)

Once you've made contact with a Muslim, it's time to start building a relationship. Ask your Muslim neighbor about their faith and about their Islamic traditions and holidays. Be a good listener and let your curiosity drive the direction of your conversation. In return, be open about how your faith in Christ and how is part of your everyday life. Share the struggles you face and how you’re bringing them to God. Try to incorporate scripture into the conversation and how it relates to your faith and your relationship to God. Try to introduce Biblical concepts and the words of Jesus into the conversation. You may also want to offer them a Bible as a gift.

At the end of your discussion with a Muslim, always end with a word of prayer. Ask how you can pray for them and if it is acceptable to them if you do so in the name of Jesus the Messiah. In all likelihood they will not object to this request.

And finally, As personal witnesses to Jesus Christ and the gospel, living our lives in a Christlike manor and treating others with a Christ-like attitude is of utmost importance. The simple acts of showing kindness, love, and compassion towards those who are lost may be all it takes to eventually lead them to the Truth and allow the Holy Spirit to work in their lives. Living by example is at the foundation and perhaps one of the most crucial components of our personal witness to Christ to others. Every Muslim has heard about Jesus, most many times over, but they may not have seen Him in action even once.

“For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps” (1 Peter 2:21)

As a missionary I get to meet many former Muslims from different parts of the world who have become Christians. I attend forums and often meet them in the field. In fact one of my good friends in Davao is a former Muslim from Saudi Arabia who found Christ when he was in his 30's when a Filipino foreign worker shared the gospel with him in his country. He is now a missionary to Muslims in Mindanao like myself. That being said, I have never personally meet a Muslim that has converted to Christianity using the methods some have suggested in this thread. I would certainly steer clear of suggesting your Muslim neighbor watch videos made by Christian apologists and/or the many "ex-Muslims" associated with them. While linking to online arguments and debates may seem like an effective way of witnessing to Muslims, in the real world, that's not the reality.

There have been many studies on what brings Muslims to Christ and as expected, it is Christ himself that draws Muslims to Him.

Below are a few samples of some of these studies.

A case study of 170 conversion narratives; mostly from Sudan; a case study of Palestinians and Bangladeshis; a paper examining the written testimonies of 173 Muslims worldwide who came to faith in Jesus Christ, and a study of 750 former Muslims, a study in Kenya of 17 urban ex-Muslims, These all confirm what all other studies have shown: the Living Christ and living Christians are the main keys to conversion.

Jean-Marie Gaudeul’s Study (1999)

Gaudeul published his findings of 170 publicly available conversion stories in a book named Called from Islam to Christ. He lists five main factors in conversion:
  • “Jesus is so attractive”
  • Jesus alone satisfies their “Thirst for Truth”
  • Christianity satisfies their longing for community as they felt like they were “without a family”
  • Christianity satifies an existential need for actual forgiveness
  • “a thirst for God” by which he means a thirst to encounter God in a personal way
Anthony (Ant) Greenham’s Study (2004)

Ant Greenham conducted research on Palestinian Muslim converts and then compared that data with conversions in Bangladesh. His research shows that among both men and women, the overwhelming factor that they cited in their coming to faith in Christ was the person of Jesus. He states, that “the person of Jesus is always central.”
  • The person of Jesus,
  • the truth of Jesus’ message,
  • God’s honor,
  • the lives of believers,
  • reading the Bible,
  • God’s miraculous action.
Bruce L. Bronoske's Study (2005):

In 2005 Bronoske studied conversion narratives of 173 people throughout the world and compiled the data in his study entitled “A Comparative Study Of The Self-Revelation Of Jesus Found In The Canonical New Testament And The Jesus of The Qur'an, And The Effect A Muslim Seeker's Understanding Of Jesus Has Upon Their Decision To Convert To Christianity." [Northwest Graduate School Of The Ministry, D.Min]

92% of converts from Islam cited the Biblical Jesus as the focal point of their conversion.

...these Muslims gave their devotion was as Bronoske stated, “was the New Testament understanding of Jesus Christ. That is, Jesus Christ as He was revealed within the text of the canonical New Testament”. This Jesus had been introduced to them primarily through a "familiar voice" namely through a “friend, a family member, or a trusted acquaintance”

Bronoske summarized his work by citing a quote from Francis Schaeffer, namely that if he had only one hour to share the gospel with a person, he would spend the first forty-five minutes finding out what the person believed about God and the last fifteen minutes presenting Christ from that basis.


J. Dudley Woodberry, Russell G. Shubin, and G. Marks study (2007):

In 2007 an article which summarized 750 interviews with former Muslims was featured in Christianity Today under the title: “Why Muslims Follow Jesus?: The results of a recent survey of converts from Islam.” The study, done between 1991 and 2007, surveyed people from 30 countries and 50 ethnic groups. The researchers ranked the order of influences stated by their correspondents on their conversions:
  • the lifestyle of Christians
  • the power of God in answered prayers and healing
  • dissatisfaction with the type of Islam they had experienced
  • spiritual truth in the Bible
  • love expressed through the life and teachings of Jesus.

Reinhold Strahler's Study (2009):

In Nairobi, Kenya, Reinhold Strahler conducted extensive interviews with 17 urban former Muslims who had come to faith. Like Bronoske he found strong evidences for the “familiar voice” as being decisive in the conversion stories. Similarly the life of Christians and the Bible figures strongly in the findings.

Significant factors in all conversion processes, sorted by frequency

  • personal witness by Christians
  • attractive lifestyle of Christians
  • love / friendship shown by Christians
  • reading Bible
  • dissatisfaction with practice of Islam
  • evangelistic meetings
  • answered prayer
In a nutshell these Muslim converts encountered the living Jesus, the living Word of God, and living Christians.

Source: Why Do Muslims Come to Christ? Five Case Studies
 
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It does not matter if he married a 9 year old or was nine years old...the problem with Islam is not how old someone was when they got married - the problem is that they don't have the gospel.

Share the Gospel with them that is in the Bible - without getting into direct accusations against their founder as a start. Just so they know what it is.
 
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