Leftism is the most successful religion of the last century

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I would have thought capitalism is the most successful religion in the world right now.
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The issue is a free market, something despots tend to hate. All freedom is curbed under despots.

In fact, here is a quote from Hitler.

Adolf Hitler, (1889-1945) German Nazi Dictator
“We are Socialists, we are enemies of the capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
 
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The World's Most Dynamic Religion Is ... - The Dennis Prager Show

So is Leftism a religion, and is it the most successful religion of the last century?

This is from a Jewish perspective, that is, a practicing Jew. The reason I make the distinction is it seems that most who practice their faith lean right, but those who don't have a higher likelihood of leaning Left. And, unfortunately, most Jews don't practice their faith to any great extent which means most lean Left.


Many people follow their political ideology religiously, thereby making it into a sort of religion.

Generally it's an ego-identity attachment to a group, in this case a political group.

Whenever someone questions the tenets of that political group, the person acts offended and reacts offensively, believing they're defending their political group.

In reality, they're defending their own ego which was offended. Their ego will fight in order to keep their true self from being exposed.
 
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So those who are conservative have no heart, is that it?

Did you know that conservatives give far more of their personal money and time to helping the poor?

Why Conservatives Are More Happy, Generous, Purposeful Than Liberals

So do you care to amend that statement?

Again, I ask you, what is your view on abortion? Do you surrender to the authority of God and the church or the state and democrat party like Joe Biden who sold his soul long ago to the democrat party?

Who is your God?

So you read and post the link to The Federalist? And that is supposed to convince somebody that right-wing political views are truth? Okay, no bias there.

You complain about Joe Biden and don't mention Trump? You make an absurd statement that "conservatives give far more of their personal money and time to helping the poor" with no proof?

Making a ridiculous statement saying "Do you surrender to the authority of God and the church or the state and democrat party like Joe Biden who sold his soul long ago to the democrat party?" So, according to you, Joe Biden, a lifelong, practicing Catholic, "sold his soul" and is not under God's authority, but Trump, a confirmed adulterer and liar, is?

If you want to be taken seriously you should be more truthful. May God have mercy on your soul.
 
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The issue is a free market, (snip)
actually, the issue was which religion is the most successful and since there doesn't appear to be any nazi governments around I'd say the religion of capitalism was the more successful of the two...but thanks for helping to proving my point. :wave:
tulc(is always glad for people's help proving his point)
 
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So you read and post the link to The Federalist? And that is supposed to convince somebody that right-wing political views are truth? Okay, no bias there.

You complain about Joe Biden and don't mention Trump? You make an absurd statement that "conservatives give far more of their personal money and time to helping the poor" with no proof?

Making a ridiculous statement saying "Do you surrender to the authority of God and the church or the state and democrat party like Joe Biden who sold his soul long ago to the democrat party?" So, according to you, Joe Biden, a lifelong, practicing Catholic, "sold his soul" and is not under God's authority, but Trump, a confirmed adulterer and liar, is?

If you want to be taken seriously you should be more truthful. May God have mercy on your soul.
Trump does not support the mass genocide of the unborn like Catholic Joe does

What has Trump done that is remotely as bad?

Would you vote for a Nazi because of their swell socialist policies or because Trump is bad? Hitler gave them all free medical care ya know.

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actually, the issue was which religion is the most successful and since there doesn't appear to be any nazi governments around I'd say the religion of capitalism was the more successful of the two...but thanks for helping to proving my point. :wave:
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Nazism and fascism have fallen out of favor thanks to the evils of Hitler

But consider this, Stalin murdered far more people than Hitler, and over the last century Marxism has murdered far more than fascism ever have.

Yet it is PC to call yourself a Marxist, like BLM, but would be cancelled by society if they called themselves Nazis.

And as corporations all over the world pour millions of dollars into BLM, and as people are being fired from their jobs for saying things like all lives matter, you have to ask yourself, when will I wake up?
 
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Nazism and fascism have fallen out of favor thanks to the evils of Hitler

But consider this, Stalin murdered far more people than Hitler, and over the last century Marxism has murdered far more than fascism ever have.

Yet it is PC to call yourself a Marxist, like BLM, but would be cancelled by society if they called themselves Nazis.

And as corporations all over the world pour millions of dollars into BLM, and as people are being fired from their jobs for saying things like all lives matter, you have to ask yourself, when will I wake up?
...you do realize the above simply proves my point even more, right?
tulc(does appreciate the help again)
 
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Actually...so did Jesus and the Apostles.
tulc(is just sayn') :sorry:
Last I checked it was not free, nothing ever is because that is a lie.

It cost the blood and life of one man.

So maybe do a better job assessing the cost.
 
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It is not true? But the statistics show exactly that.

I'm not saying you have to have certain political leanings to be a person of faith, what I am saying is that those of faith, that is, those who practice their faith, have certain characteristics that thos outside of faith do not.

For example, those who practice their faith:

1. Have fewer divorces. If you look at statistics for Christian divorce, you will see that it is the same as it is outside the faith. But if you look at Christians who attend church regularly and practice their faith, the divorce rate is cut in half.

2. Christians give more of their time and money to help the poor. Conversely, those on the Left to sit around and try and convince us all to vote for people who will tax them more in the hopes of giving that money to those in need. Unfortunately, only about 9 cents on the dollar actually goes to those in need.

3. And as I have shown, Christians tend to lean conservative as well.

Here is more evidence

Survey Shows How Liberals and Conservatives Differ on Matters of Faith - Barna Group

Based upon an evaluation of more than a dozen religious beliefs of liberals and conservatives, consistent and significant differences are evident. Liberals are less than half as likely as conservatives to firmly believe that the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches (27% versus 63%, respectively); to strongly believe that Satan is real (17% versus 36%); and to firmly contend that they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs with others (23% versus 48%).

Liberals are also far less likely than conservatives to strongly believe each of the following:

  • their religious faith is very important in their life (54% of liberals vs. 82% of conservatives);
  • a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by doing good deeds or being a good person (23% vs. 37%);
  • their faith is becoming an increasingly important moral guide in their life (38% vs. 70%);
  • the church they currently attend is very important in helping them find direction and fulfillment in life (37% vs. 62%);
  • their primary purpose in life is to love God with all their heart, mind, strength and soul (43% vs. 76%);
  • Jesus Christ did not commit sins during His time on earth (33% vs. 55%).
Liberals are also much less likely than conservatives to believe that “God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today.” Only about half of liberals (55%) adopt that view of God compared to more than four out of five conservatives (82%).

The research also discovered that liberals are more likely than conservatives to develop their own set of religious beliefs rather than adopt those proposed by a church or other entity. A greater percentage of liberals also indicated they are very open to accepting different moral views than those they presently possess.


The Religious Practices of Liberals and Conservatives

The Barna study examined five specific religious practices and found that conservatives were more likely than liberals to engage in all five. In a typical week, the survey showed that conservatives were more likely than liberals to:

  • read the Bible, other than at church events, during the past week (57% vs. 33%, respectively)
  • attend a religious service during the past week (62% vs. 35%)
  • pray to God, other than at a religious service, during the past week (91% vs. 76%)
  • share their religious beliefs with others, during the past year (56% vs. 39%, among the born again Christians interviewed from each segment)
  • have ever participated in a short-term missions trip, either within the U.S. or in another country (12% vs. 6%)

These are things statistics shows us on how Christians differ from the world.

After all, Christians are suppose to differ and be shining lights to a lost world, are they not?
I never talked about liberalism vs conservatism.. In my post I was clear I was talking about left vs right economically speaking... There is a big difference. You can be a socialist and a conservative at the same time. I would agree it would be very strange for a Christian to be a modern-day liberal, I don't know how a believer can be pro-choice or support gay marriage and the other ungodly agendas liberals promote. But wealth distribution and support for increased social assistance? That's an entirely different thing and you can be a conservative Christian who supports that. That is about economic policy and it has nothing to do with being a Christian. Perhaps there's not many in the US but there are in other places in the world.

I myself support improvements in health care and social assistance where everyone can benefit and I don't mind paying a little more taxes for that. But honestly if the government just prioritized on what to spend and they had smart spending in their balanced budgets you wouldn't even have to pay that many taxes especially when you cut on less important stuff like military spending. The problem is a lot of people pay a lot of taxes but get little in return.
 
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Last I checked it was not free, nothing ever is because that is a lie.
Really? Could you point out where Jesus and the Apostles charged someone to heal them? :scratch:

It cost the blood and life of one man.
...than why was He/they able to heal before He died?

So maybe do a better job assessing the cost.
Maybe you should assess why you think universal health care (apparently) makes people the same as Hitler? :scratch:
tulc(will be interested in seeing those Scriptures where Jesus and the apostles charged people to heal them) :wave:
 
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The World's Most Dynamic Religion Is ... - The Dennis Prager Show

So is Leftism a religion, and is it the most successful religion of the last century?

This is from a Jewish perspective, that is, a practicing Jew. The reason I make the distinction is it seems that most who practice their faith lean right, but those who don't have a higher likelihood of leaning Left. And, unfortunately, most Jews don't practice their faith to any great extent which means most lean Left.


This is a farce! Trump is not a good Christian Witness! Neither is Speaker Nancy Palosi! They are politicians and as Americans we are called to vote but do not even pretend one party is G-d's party! you demean HIM! The Creator of the Universe is Above Politics and politics have very little really o do with G-d's laws.
 
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This is a farce! Trump is not a good Christian Witness! Neither is Speaker Nancy Palosi! They are politicians and as Americans we are called to vote but do not even pretend one party is G-d's party! you demean HIM! The Creator of the Universe is Above Politics and politics have very little really o do with G-d's laws.
When did I say that Trump or Pelosi were a good Christian witness?

I certainly did not.\

Please reread what I wrote.
 
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WonbyOneanddone said When did I say that Trump or Pelosi were a good Christian witness?
I certainly did not. Please reread what I wrote.

JS: you are correct you did not say this but you implied at least Republicans are in this statement:


This is from a Jewish perspective, that is, a practicing Jew. The reason I make the distinction is it seems that most who practice their faith lean right, but those who don't have a higher likelihood of leaning Left.

JS: if those who lean to the right "practice their faith" than those who lean left at least you claim they have a higher likely hood. Does this not then mean republicans who they lean toward voting for are good witnesses and thus when they voted for Trump this was a righteous thing to do because he was on the republican line. This is why I wrote he was not a good witness yet the same can be seen on both sides of the political circus so I added Pelosi.

Both are simply human beings with human foibles and human faults and graces. Neither Republicans nor Democratic positions hold a higher ground. Republicans are concerned for the unborn while Democrats are concerned for those born. Both can therefore follow Judaeo-Christian values but neither are G-d sent like prophets.

Thus it this cult like following over Trump that confuses me. In my fifty years of voting I never heard of death threats being made again those who voted for winner, or marching on Washington because the president you voted for lost. Perhaps you can explain this to me, because it just does not make sense.
 
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