No Stone Age or Bronze Age in Genesis

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Unqualified: "The Bronze Age started with tubal-Cain in gen4:22."

I'm afraid that won't work. According to Genesis there was no Bronze Age because the Iron Age started at the same time, so they were already in the Iron Age.

but when did tubal-Cain live? Creation was about 4000BC according to the genealogies of the line of Adam in Genesis. So tubal Cain lived five generations from Adam. That could put him at about 3300 BC when the Bronze Age was said to start. The flood occurred about 2000 BC so the Iron Age is when iron was in common use because clearly the were using it here with tubal-cain. I agree with you that the Iron Age started with tubal-Cain in 3500-3300 BC but the world is wrong not me.
 
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Who is anyone else? Do you mean they're not a problem for people who have faith in evolution? Yes they are. Careful thinking about the information captured as fossils should cause everyone great doubt about evolution.

Unfortunately, fossils don't capture the molecular machinery that must have evolved into existence slowly if evolution is true. But how would a machine evolve slowly? Would one component protein evolve at a time, and be conserved even though useless until the others evolved to complete the machine? Wouldn't that be a violation of how natural selection works? But I digress.

Fossils show complete, functioning, well-designed animals, not animals in the progress of evolving. They look like a snapshot of what existed about 5000 years ago, when the sudden upheavals of the worldwide flood captured them in a heartbeat, often with necks arched back struggling to breathe.

Fossils show marine animals all over the earth, even on the tallest mountains (which weren't tall mountains at the time). And most clams are captured in the closed position, meaning they were alive when they were suddenly buried.

But the biggest problem about the evolution myth is the hypothetical process of evolution itself. Many people defend it by pointing to a modern day example of mutations breaking genes resulting in change. No one disagrees that mutations do damage that causes enough change to create new species, and even new genera. But no such damage ever created a new protein, a new molecular machine, a new membrane, a new organ or a new system. Those things had to be designed, not evolved.



Ken Jackson: "Fossils show marine animals all over the earth, even on the tallest mountains (which weren't tall mountains at the time)."

What do you think this proves?


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"Most amino acids are encoded by several different codons. For example, if the third base in the TCT codon for serine is changed to any one of the other three bases, serine will still be encoded. Such mutations are said to be silent because they cause no change in their product and cannot be detected without sequencing the gene (or its mRNA)."

"Only 1.2% of our DNA encodes the exons of our proteome, and for a long time it was thought that much of the rest was "junk" DNA. Mutations in it would most likely be harmless. And even in coding regions, the existence of synonymous codons could result in the altered (mutated) gene still encoding the same amino acid in the protein."

In other words, most mutations are not harmful.

As you suggest, the vast majority of them do nothing noticeable. We all have dozens that were present in neither of our parents. Few have any effect at all. And even when they do, if it's not at the active site of the protein, and doesn't noticeably change the shape of the protein, there still are no consequences to the organism.

And many others make a tiny change in the function of the protein. Most slightly degrade the function, and over time, these tend to be removed by natural selection. A few enhance the protein, or may even produce a novel function that is useful. These tend to be preserved by natural selection.
 
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Coffee: "Amber needs lots of, guess what? Water."

Where did you get that from? No, fossils embedded in amber don't require water. All they require if for an insect or whatever to stick in resin oozing from a tree, and be engulfed and preserved.



Coffee: "Did you know a lot of aquatic organisms can be found in amber?"

The only thing that is necessary for an aquatic organism to become an amber fossil is for a tree, or even a branch off a tree, to fall into a body of water. If a tree is growing near the water, a hurricane or a tornado can knock it into the water. Or a tree can be growing on shaky, unstable ground.

Coffee: "Lace bugs (Tingidae) still alive today look just the same as those found in Caribbean amber dated as being millions of years old. That's because they are not millions of years old and evolution didn't happen."

Many amber fossils show species that are now extinct. Take a look at this example.


<< 'Alien' insect in amber from 100 million years ago >>

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"Around 100 million years ago, an alien-looking insect with a bizarre head and long thin legs likely crawled around on trees in what is now Burma."

"The insect is so strange that researchers say that it is not only a new species, but also belongs in its own new scientific order. Living in the time of the dinosaurs, the insect was tiny and wingless. Just two specimens of this new species exist, both of them preserved in Burmese amber."


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that insect is so cool . Those 2 “ horns” on its tail are scent glands . You can see something similar in some Modern roaches

and Coffee, Amber is formed from mainly conifer resin. Occasionally it does fall into shallow water but that’s rare! And by definition amber has to be millions of years old otherwise it’s called copal. In the USA people aren’t allowed to sell copal and call it amber
 
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Dinosaurs arching their necks back to breathe ? No ! , like their modern descendants- birds , dinosaurs mummified sometimes before they got buried . When the neck tendons dry they shrink ,arching the neck backwards . That happened after death and only if the remains dried before being being buried .
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Archaeopteryx is a dino-bird . It shows the mosaic of traits that actually show up in real transitionals. For example, a Toothed jaw instead of a beak and solid limb bones instead of hollow ones, are the obvious ones that are easily understood by laymen. Of course ,there are others that a skilled anatomist would see are intermediate or mosaic but I’m just mentioning these 2 .


Even though genetic switches are involved in the evolution of one species to another in the same Genus ,this also applies to deep homology as well. For a single example, the same genes that form vertebrate limbs also form arthropod mouthparts and limbs . They are the same genes doing the same job . And it’s not just the limb formation genes. There are several genes that control body plans in the bilaterians that we all share . ( if you don’t know what a bilaterian is, you shouldn’t be arguing about common descent evolution)
 
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Dinosaurs arching their necks back to breathe ? No ! , like their modern descendants- birds , dinosaurs mummified sometimes before they got buried . When the neck tendons dry they shrink ,arching the neck backwards .

But it makes a fine "just-so" story for those who imagine a worldwide flood.
 
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