Retired Cop Allegedly Shot Dead by Looters

disciple Clint · Jun 4, 2020

KCfromNC said:
You just admitted they missed a well known explanation for numbers they didn't even tell you about.

that is an unwarranted assumption. And a false statement, I didn't admit anything, lets stick to the facts.

OldWiseGuy · Jun 4, 2020

FireDragon76 said:
I see no evidence Antifa was involved in the killing of the retired police chief in question.

In general, the protesters and the looters seem to be two different groups of people.

Protesters are the opening act of the same show.

OldWiseGuy · Jun 4, 2020

timewerx said:
Does this 18x more likely to be killed by a black person justify excessive use of lethal force when police are dealing with blacks?

Does this mean, if I want a black person dead, I can simply call the cops on them since the cops are likely use lethal force?

Do you see how such trend can be exploited by people with bad intentions?

I'm guessing that the cops prevent more deaths in black neighborhoods than they cause.

FireDragon76 · Jun 4, 2020

disciple Clint said:
There almost twice as many white vs black people killed by police but you never hear about that.

The issue is the disparate number of killings of unarmed black men.

KCfromNC · Jun 4, 2020

disciple Clint said:
that is an unwarranted assumption.

It isn't an assumption, it is believing that what you previously wrote was truthful :

disciple Clint said:
There almost twice as many white vs black people killed by police but you never hear about that.

OldWiseGuy · Jun 4, 2020

FireDragon76 said:
The issue is the disparate number of killings of unarmed black men.

How many? Names?

Ignatius the Kiwi · Jun 4, 2020

timewerx said:
Sadly, it's not just George Floyd. On top of that are many "accidental" killings of blacks by police.

These police are let off lightly, did not face prison time.

I don't condone killings, but a country keeping a blind eye on injustices is going to breed a massive social inequality.

And social inequality is strongly tied to unrest, crime rates, etc. Countries with high social inequality tend to have high crime rates, significant corruption in the government, defunct law and order.

Things are working by the numbers. YOu can't make something from nothing. I'm afraid prayers would do little to the situation. This situation require a tangible action.

Even God would say NO. You got to fix this yourselves - peacefully.

How many black people were shot by police last year in the USA by accident?

charsan · Jun 4, 2020

disciple Clint said:
There almost twice as many white vs black people killed by police but you never hear about that.

Exactly

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People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

OldWiseGuy · Jun 4, 2020

charsan said:
Exactly

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People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

It's trending down rapidly. Soon there will be no such deaths.

disciple Clint · Jun 4, 2020

FireDragon76 said:
The issue is the disparate number of killings of unarmed black men.

Are the not just as dead, should we not be looking into why they were killed with the same level of skepticism?

agapelove · Jun 4, 2020

disciple Clint said:
There almost twice as many white vs black people killed by police but you never hear about that.

charsan said:
Exactly

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People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

It's like you guys purposefully ignore how there are 6x more white people than black people in America. White people make up 72% of US demographics while black people make up 12%.

disciple Clint · Jun 4, 2020

KCfromNC said:
It isn't an assumption, it is believing that what you previously wrote was truthful :

Show us where I said that.

jacks · Jun 4, 2020

agapelove said:
It's like you guys purposefully ignore how there are 6x more white people than black people in America. White people make up 72% of US demographics while black people make up 12%.

So does that make this statistic even worse? I think there is enough blame to go around, regardless of race.

In 2018 (latest FBI statistic).
514 White people were killed by blacks.
234 Black people were killed by whites.

Though mostly we all kill within our own race.

disciple Clint · Jun 4, 2020

agapelove said:
It's like you guys purposefully ignore how there are 6x more white people than black people in America. White people make up 72% of US demographics while black people make up 12%.

what if we look at the number of interactions with the police vs the number of deaths.

charsan · Jun 4, 2020

You know David Dorn was murdered and no one marched for him, no one says anything about him. Everybody wants to say how bad Folyd death's was but don't lift a finger about Mr. Dorn. Hypocrites

disciple Clint · Jun 4, 2020

jacks said:
So does that make this statistic even worse? I think there is enough blame to go around, regardless of race.

In 2018 (latest FBI statistic).
514 White people were killed by blacks.
234 Black people were killed by whites.

Though mostly we all kill within our own race.

Did you forget blacks killed by blacks, it says a lot about how much black lives matter.

FireDragon76 · Jun 4, 2020

charsan said:
You know David Dorn was murdered and no one marched for him, no one says anything about him. Everybody wants to say how bad Folyd death's was but don't lift a finger about Mr. Dorn. Hypocrites

How do you know? Dorn's death is primarily a local matter, and it's unfair to use it to detract from the legitimate calls for reform of policing of the African American community.

timewerx · Jun 4, 2020

disciple Clint said:
There almost twice as many white vs black people killed by police but you never hear about that.

It would also be useful if we can see where these incidents took place and the income bracket of whites killed by police.

It's always a social inequality thing.

IceJad · Jun 5, 2020

agapelove said:
It's like you guys purposefully ignore how there are 6x more white people than black people in America. White people make up 72% of US demographics while black people make up 12%.

I like it when people play the number game. I'll play along. Here are the stats. If what you say is correct 72% are white and 12% are black.

FBI 2018 Homicide Stats. 2019 is not ready yet.
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

By that alone in 2018.

1. Blacks killed more whites than whites killed blacks. 514 to 234.
2. Blacks killed more blacks than all other races killed blacks combined. 2600 to 334.

So by your logic alone, the black community is more prone to committing homicide and therefore being 12% of the population they are more than 7.78x likely to commit homicide on their own than other races on them.

IceJad · Jun 5, 2020

jacks said:
So does that make this statistic even worse? I think there is enough blame to go around, regardless of race.

In 2018 (latest FBI statistic).
514 White people were killed by blacks.
234 Black people were killed by whites.

Though mostly we all kill within our own race.

Our train of thoughts are on the same track. Didn't manage to read your post before getting on my own reply.

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