Which came first: Adam or the Child Adam?

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Yah, but they are surrounded by it on TV, music and peers---A + E didn't have that to feed those hormones! However, with the fall, they had to console each other and may have been the first time they started touching each other. hugging for comfort. It was the first time for anyone ---ever. They may have been just a little bit shy about all those strange feelings at first. You're thinking like a man---just get to the point---but Adam was possibly being a gentlemen and waiting for her, or he too was a little shy.
I see what you're saying but I think this was a problem long before TV, Music and peers.... Just say'n...
 
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Hi there,
So yes, this is just meant by way of filling in the gaps: Adam was not necessarily an adult, when God made him.
Which came first, Adam, the adult or Adam the child?

Of course too we don't know exactly where Adam was prior to God putting him in Eden?
 
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I see what you're saying but I think this was a problem long before TV, Music and peers.... Just say'n...


Yes---but still---they had no peers to emulate. It must have been quite mysterious---however, there were also the animals they tended---farm kids are exposed to animals behaving like animals at a very early age---sooooo. Maybe they should have gotten the hint faster ---maybe we should ask them when we get there---should be easy to spot--no belly buttons! 'Course, there are those white raiments that might not show that!
 
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Adam and Eve were created in the same day, according to Genesis 1:26-31. This would indicate the events described in Genesis 2:15-25 occurred on the fifth day of creation. In the first four days there is no sun so we have reason to consider a "day" being something other than one rotation of the earth relevant to the sun (which is how we normally define a day), but that cannot be said of Day 6. Even an allegorical interpretation must reconcile this.
If I recall correctly.
Yeshua(Jesus) said that Shabbat was made for man.
So if Adam was given rest before a woman was formed from a rib.
What Yom(day) she was created is separate from his in a sense.
 
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Not one that points to the Serpent, anyway!

Excellent thought.

I cherish moments where other believers share wisdom!
Setting a table in the spirit of wisdom well be met with guest who Love The Lord of Host.

Blessed be The Holy One
 
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What on earth are you talking about?
Serpents are kosher where I come from.
Meaning,
I know they are bound and cursed for eternity.
Their flesh if available.
Which is quite rare these days.
Is meat.
And that's essentially the only reason they are able to move
 
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If I recall correctly. Yeshua(Jesus) said that Shabbat was made for man. So if Adam was given rest before a woman was formed from a rib. What Yom(day) she was created is separate from his in a sense.
Please show me where the scriptures say Adam was given rest before a woman was formed.
 
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Please show me where the scriptures say Adam was given rest before a woman was formed.
Using the formality of "please"
without a sincere heart reveals that there is a Holy Place that needs healing.

If Adam is given rest.
Which Yom(day) do you suppose that Is?
 
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Wrong,
Take your we of cursing to a forum dedicated to familiarity.

Or,
Admit and confess your intent.

Genesis 2:8 "Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden: and there he put the man he had formed."
 
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Does anyone know what pinnacled is talking about?----I don't understand anything she says!!

Nope, I have no clue.

I was thinking he might be trolling so I was ignoring. (his profile says male)
 
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Perhaps you didn't notice...the verse states "Man"!
To be specific the vers says male in hebrew.
And with a fluidity of time.
Forgiveness is poured on a female.
Hence casting bread upon waters.

Blessings are found in ears that hear Adam being honestly innocent about his wife.

A blessing that the serpent will never utter a breath of thought.

Hate and cursing cost the serpents arms and legs.
 
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Perhaps you didn't notice...the verse states "Man"!
From east to west a strength is found in the childhood of Adam.

And those that enter the narrow gate after knocking will be given rest
 
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Using the formality of "please" without a sincere heart reveals that there is a Holy Place that needs healing.
SO does assuming a person is insincere when they are sincere. Mt. 7:23, pinacled. I meant what I said. Would you please show me where scripture says Adam is given rest before Eve was created?
If Adam is given rest. Which Yom(day) do you suppose that Is?
Adam is not given rest prior to Eve being created.

Genesis 2:1-22
"Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven. 5Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground. 6But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

10Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers. 11The name of the first is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12The gold of that land is good; the bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13The name of the second river is Gihon; it flows around the whole land of Cush. 14The name of the third river is Tigris; it flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

15Then the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. 16The LORD God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”

18Then the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.” 19Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name. 20The man gave names to all the cattle, and to the birds of the sky, and to every beast of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him. 21So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man."

Verses 4 through 22 of chapter 2 are what happened during verses 24 through 31 of chapter 1.

Genesis 1:24-31
"Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind”; and it was so. 25God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.

26Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so. 31God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day"

Both Adam and Eve were created on the sixth day. The rest came on the seventh.

So..... if there is some other rest then I would like you to show me where that rest occurs in scripture.




Would you please show me where the scriptures say Adam was given rest before a woman was formed?
 
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I wonder how that Jesus grew in wisdom would factor into it as it relates to Adam:

Luke 2:52 Authorized (King James)
52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

He was wise from the beginning hence the teaching in the temple, but this likely means in the Jewish way that he grew IN already established wisdom. As in he grew up in wisdom not that he increased in it.

Did Adam and Eve have sex before the fall?

Unlikely until God gave them the command to multiply. Seeing is how chastity is Holy and until the fall such things weren't necessarily needed.
 
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Wrong,
And only luciferians will mark you when you accept that Adam is the serpent.


Readers be very vigilant

What? That was the sin. Disobedience comes from pride and they were tempted to disobedience by offerings of greater knowledge. What are you implying here. I didn't claim Adam was the Serpent.
 
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The serpent does love to play at being a man.
Yet the Eternal seal is always upon such a creature for being a beast of the field.
And the field of blood and dust is all it sees..

If I recall correctly.
Gottservant was asking about adam and youth.
The conversation is about just that.

Do you understand?

No. What you are saying is fairly incomprehensible to me. Why not try to speak in less vague prose?
 
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