If you could saying anything in your online dating profile...

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I haven't had a profile in forever. When I did go to those sites, over time I learned to just be honest and upfront without sharing too much. I didn't get much attention, which was OK. It meant people were choosing to be respectful and to not waste our time.

When I was younger, as in under 35, I would worry a lot about what would get people interested in talking to me. I didn't say anything that wasn't true, but I didn't say anything true that I felt might turn someone off. After that what others were looking for became less important to me, mostly because most people who contacted me expected something other than what I wanted. It also got me unsolicited pictures that I had no interest in seeing from people who were essentially strangers. I began to care more about what I wanted and the type of person I wanted to hear from than what others might find worthy of their time and efforts.
 
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I haven't had a profile in forever. When I did go to those sites, over time I learned to just be honest and upfront without sharing too much. I didn't get much attention, which was OK. It meant people were choosing to be respectful and to not waste our time.

When I was younger, as in under 35, I would worry a lot about what would get people interested in talking to me. I didn't say anything that wasn't true, but I didn't say anything true that I felt might turn someone off. After that what others were looking for became less important to me, mostly because most people who contacted me expected something other than what I wanted. It also got me unsolicited pictures that I had no interest in seeing from people who were essentially strangers. I began to care more about what I wanted and the type of person I wanted to hear from than what others might find worthy of their time and efforts.
You wrote that you had no interest in seeing strangers. But, just remember, every friend, that you now have, was, at one time, a...….stranger.
 
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You wrote that you had no interest in seeing strangers. But, just remember, every friend, that you now have, was, at one time, a...….stranger.

What I said is that I had no interest in seeing the unsolicited pictures. They were showing me inappropriate pictures, without me asking to see any and without warning.
 
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What I said is that I had no interest in seeing the unsolicited pictures. They were showing me inappropriate pictures, without me asking to see any and without warning.
In that case,I do not blame you for not wanting them to continue to contact you. Or,you not wanting to contact them.
Sorry,I did not see anything about inappropriate pictures. I did, however, saw the part about unsolicited pictures.
 
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I would add debt free and financially stable but it would not be in good taste. It is equally difficult to acknowledge I'm home full-time without giving the impression I'd fill my day with domestic pursuits. I didn't leave the workforce to become a homemaker. But fantasies persist.
 
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I always wanted to write a candid and honest profile, but never did. Most people can't be bothered to read more than a sentence.

I'd love to go on a rant about how most women don't bother to give me a chance. Most take a single glance at me and think they have me categorized and they could not be more wrong. I'd love to be upfront and honest about certain views I hold so I didn't feel I was catfishing someone as the relationship progressed.

Like I said though, most can't be bothered to read anything, so it is pointless. A dating profile would have a few pictures of me, which would get attention from the wrong type of women who assume I am a certain type of guy. The women I'm interested in would not even look my way or they'd be in total disbelief that someone like me would say 'hello'. It'd be $30 or $40 or whatever it is per month - just to get ignored in another avenue as if real-life isn't insulting enough.
 
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I always wanted to write a candid and honest profile, but never did. Most people can't be bothered to read more than a sentence.

I'd love to go on a rant about how most women don't bother to give me a chance. Most take a single glance at me and think they have me categorized and they could not be more wrong. I'd love to be upfront and honest about certain views I hold so I didn't feel I was catfishing someone as the relationship progressed.

Like I said though, most can't be bothered to read anything, so it is pointless. A dating profile would have a few pictures of me, which would get attention from the wrong type of women who assume I am a certain type of guy. The women I'm interested in would not even look my way or they'd be in total disbelief that someone like me would say 'hello'. It'd be $30 or $40 or whatever it is per month - just to get ignored in another avenue as if real-life isn't insulting enough.

You see, when it comes to "Christian" online dating...you're still having to deal with the superficial/shallowness of regular, secular dating.

Let's say you have your non-Church going believer or agnostic. Let's just leave religion out of dating. You'd have to deal with that woman (as a man) that won't budge on her 6 foot height requirement. Now, just imagine that same woman as a die-hard "Christian".

Her profile, "He must love the Lord, follow His path, etc etc etc...oh, and he also must be 6 feet tall!" So the superficial weeds its way into her Christian lifestyle.

So a person like this, it's a double whammy.
 
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I always wanted to write a candid and honest profile, but never did. Most people can't be bothered to read more than a sentence.

Maybe it shouldn't, but this part struck me as funny.

Are you even interested in women who can't be bothered to read more than a sentence? I get what you're saying, and it reminds me that I'm not.
 
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Maybe it shouldn't, but this part struck me as funny.

Are you even interested in women who can't be bothered to read more than a sentence? I get what you're saying, and it reminds me that I'm not.

No, I'm not. Conversation is the best way for me to get to know someone, and that extends to the online format as well. If I can't be 'heard' with what I write, then she's obviously not right for me. Hard to find someone who doesn't live life 140 characters at a time in this modern age. Attention spans like goldfish.
 
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No, I'm not. Conversation is the best way for me to get to know someone, and that extends to the online format as well. If I can't be 'heard' with what I write, then she's obviously not right for me. Hard to find someone who doesn't live life 140 characters at a time in this modern age. Attention spans like goldfish.

If someone isn't putting, "Ask me" and thats it in their profile. The least you get is a 2 sentence generic,

"I am an easy-going, laid back, nice gal, looking for a man of God. Seeking same"

or I did spot a Christian woman I know in REAL life via an old singles group:

Thought I’d give this a try. Looking for a gentleman. A man who has dedicated his way of life to Jesus. Kindness, honesty, and goofiness a must!


And that's it. The latter has a little more than the previous, but that's a standard write up of any dating profile...Christian or not. Like that of an old Western Union telegram.
 
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When I used to try the online thing,I always appreciated the more indepth profiles, because the writing style as well as the info gave an idea of the character and personality. And I likewise always allowed my humor and fascinating wit (I'm joking now btw)to spill over in to a longer profile.
But on the other hand,scammers and fakes abound and could possibly use whatever information you put out there openly to try and deceive you.
And also...I think sometimes people think they should keep it short so there is more to learn and share in the getting to know you process later.
But I gave up.
 
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I hear the same statement from a lot of people - 'I gave up'

Some folks seem to have luck with the whole online thing. I always felt like I was trying to sell a junky used car to an unsuspecting buyer when I was a member of dating sites.
 
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I hear the same statement from a lot of people - 'I gave up'

Some folks seem to have luck with the whole online thing. I always felt like I was trying to sell a junky used car to an unsuspecting buyer when I was a member of dating sites.

Most of the women I've dated, I've met in person. Every one of them TRIED online dating, and didn't last a week. Deleted their profiles as soon as they joined pretty much. Was overwhelmed with wierdos and pervs.
 
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I hear the same statement from a lot of people - 'I gave up'

Some folks seem to have luck with the whole online thing. I always felt like I was trying to sell a junky used car to an unsuspecting buyer when I was a member of dating sites.
Same here.I'm looking for another junker,that knows the same mechanic that's working on me.:sorry:
 
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Believe it or not that's in all of my dating profiles. It's up front, and it acts as a good filter, but it still hasn't stopped people from reaching out to me. Not those words of course. It's more like saying that I believe in the sanctity of marriage and will not compromise abstinence before marriage.

Some really appreciate my forthrightness and directness of what I'm looking for. But as in outside the dating world, there are many guys that will say they are willing to wait, but don't understand what that means until they actually see someone that puts that into action.

That is not how the world thinks. They believe sex is something you have to "try out" before marriage to make sure you're compatible. Which is another way of saying they are not willing to trust that the two of you will lovingly and sacrificially work through whatever differences you might have in that area of marriage. It has to meet their expectations from the get-go or no dice. It cannot even be discussed. It has to be experienced.

The life of faith is hard. We live by faith not because things always turn out perfectly, but because we love and trust our Lord and His ways. We live in a fallen world and faith does not always find its reward here and now. I waited until marriage which in my case did not come until I was 30. I then discovered I married a woman who hated sex and had no use for it other than to get pregnant. She did everything in her power to avoid it and make it the most unloving, unfulfilling experience possible. No amount of prayer, patience, or attempts at counseling ever changed that. I had a wife who was unwilling to make an effort. She suffered from no trauma that I know of and refused all counseling. She stated that If God had wanted her to enjoy sex He would not have made her like this. After she could no longer have children, starting at 39, sex stopped completely. Our marriage lasted another 10 years with no intimacy of any kind (meaning no kissing, holding hands, etc.) Eventually, with the support of our elder board, I filed for divorce. It wasn't even due to the lack of intimacy. It was the ongoing lack of any kind of relationship or marriage and the extreme stress it was causing me and ruining my health. To a man, all the elders questioned her salvation.

It's been 13 years. I have no desire to date, no desire for intimacy, and very little contact with my three children she did her best to poison against me. I remained faithful, I tried countless times and ways to get her talking or to agree to counsel. I have been on anti-anxiety meds for 15 years now. I grew up in an alcoholic household (my mom) for 17 years and that coupled with this marriage has left me numb probably due to the meds as well as the past experiences.

Do I regret waiting until marriage? Of course not. It was the right thing to do. Maybe it might have saved me from this marriage but God has bigger plans for my life and I trust and know He has used all of this for good (Romans 8:28). Maybe now I have the "gift of singleness." I don't know. We have to stick to what we know is right and not worry about what the consequences might be. There is a peace in the Lord that "surpasses all understanding." Stick to your faith and leave the rest to the Lord. He truly does make "all things work together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose" (Romans 8:28)
 
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That is not how the world thinks. They believe sex is something you have to "try out" before marriage to make sure you're compatible. Which is another way of saying they are not willing to trust that the two of you will lovingly and sacrificially work through whatever differences you might have in that area of marriage. It has to meet their expectations from the get-go or no dice. It cannot even be discussed. It has to be experienced.

The life of faith is hard. We live by faith not because things always turn out perfectly, but because we love and trust our Lord and His ways. We live in a fallen world and faith does not always find its reward here and now. I waited until marriage which in my case did not come until I was 30. I then discovered I married a woman who hated sex and had no use for it other than to get pregnant. She did everything in her power to avoid it and make it the most unloving, unfulfilling experience possible. No amount of prayer, patience, or attempts at counseling ever changed that. I had a wife who was unwilling to make an effort. She suffered from no trauma that I know of and refused all counseling. She stated that If God had wanted her to enjoy sex He would not have made her like this. After she could no longer have children, starting at 39, sex stopped completely. Our marriage lasted another 10 years with no intimacy of any kind (meaning no kissing, holding hands, etc.) Eventually, with the support of our elder board, I filed for divorce. It wasn't even due to the lack of intimacy. It was the ongoing lack of any kind of relationship or marriage and the extreme stress it was causing me and ruining my health. To a man, all the elders questioned her salvation.

It's been 13 years. I have no desire to date, no desire for intimacy, and very little contact with my three children she did her best to poison against me. I remained faithful, I tried countless times and ways to get her talking or to agree to counsel. I have been on anti-anxiety meds for 15 years now. I grew up in an alcoholic household (my mom) for 17 years and that coupled with this marriage has left me numb probably due to the meds as well as the past experiences.

Do I regret waiting until marriage? Of course not. It was the right thing to do. Maybe it might have saved me from this marriage but God has bigger plans for my life and I trust and know He has used all of this for good (Romans 8:28). Maybe now I have the "gift of singleness." I don't know. We have to stick to what we know is right and not worry about what the consequences might be. There is a peace in the Lord that "surpasses all understanding." Stick to your faith and leave the rest to the Lord. He truly does make "all things work together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose" (Romans 8:28)

I do ask though, how is it have you known that this woman be the most unloving person that she was? I figured you'd be able to up on that while getting to know her, yes?

After all that I read there, you'd probably think it's a case of why one shouldn't not wait until marriage, at least it sounds like that's the lesson learned here.

I do have to think there's more to your story than that she simply lost interest.

Of course, we have 40 + year old virgins there that can't even get a date much less get a girlfriend...and later a wife.

Also, waiting until marriage is typically a young couples thing, you rarely see this happening the older single people get. If they are holding off, there's at least some kind of fooling around of sorts

Back in the day, people married much younger, sometimes even in their teenaged years. I knew of a Christian high school couple that waited until their graduation from High school to get married. I'm sure it was no problem for them to wait.
 
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I do ask though, how is it have you known that this woman be the most unloving person that she was? I figured you'd be able to up on that while getting to know her, yes?

After all that I read there, you'd probably think it's a case of why one shouldn't not wait until marriage, at least it sounds like that's the lesson learned here.

I do have to think there's more to your story than that she simply lost interest.

Of course, we have 40 + year old virgins there that can't even get a date much less get a girlfriend...and later a wife.

Also, waiting until marriage is typically a young couples thing, you rarely see this happening the older single people get. If they are holding off, there's at least some kind of fooling around of sorts

Back in the day, people married much younger, sometimes even in their teenaged years. I knew of a Christian high school couple that waited until their graduation from High school to get married. I'm sure it was no problem for them to wait.

She was reasonably affectionate before marriage even though there was no sex. She never seemed to enjoy intimacy that much and had no desire to deviate from a very limited perspective (trying to keep this clean :). We were both virgins (she said she was and I know I was) and so I had a natural curiosity to try some different things but all well within what is very normal and typical. She quickly shot down anything that was not the one way she was ok with. She didn't care much for foreplay and wanted it to go quickly then move on with her evening. I never sensed she enjoyed it. She did want to have children though. Each time she got pregnant, all forms of intimacy stopped until weeks after the child was born. There was no apparent reason for this. She had relatively routine pregnancies with no morning sickness or other ailments that sometimes affect pregnant women. She simply had no incentive since you can't get pregnant once you are pregnant... After our third child, she could no longer get pregnant and then had a full hysterectomy at age 39.

Her whole personality changed about 2 years into our marriage. She became friends with some women at church who were part of a group of families that were full-quiver, anti-birth control, pro-homeschooling, patriarchal, etc. That quickly became her identity. I was not hardcore about those things. I understood their reasons and respected them but did not see them as black-and-white as they did. While we did not fight over these things, the fact that I was not as convinced as she became a source of frustration for her and then judgment. I was soon labeled as carnal and unbiblical. I was neither but such was the extremes of her thinking. I was once accused of showing our children inappropriate contentography for watching the movie Spiderman with them. She told a counselor I was a drug addict because I drank caffeine during the day and took a mild med at night to treat restless leg syndrome. In her words, I was taking uppers during the day and downers to sleep. My caffeine intake was nothing out of the ordinary and the restless leg med was very mild. To call that drug addiction was crazy. I could go on but you get the idea. This all started once she fell in with that group although the dislike for sex was from the beginning.

I don't see the lesson learned is having sex before marriage to "be sure." The sex issues were the least of our problems and if that had been the only problem I could have lived with that. I don't know how I could have anticipated any of this ahead of time. We knew each other for over two years before marriage and even worked together. While you can never know everything there is to know about someone prior to marriage, I think I knew enough and just did not see any of this coming. I am still glad I waited until marriage to have sex. I did the right thing and will never second guess myself for that. If I had it to do over again, I still would have waited but probably never married. I have learned to be content single and celibate. I have no desire to remarry. I have lived alone for nearly 15 years now and am not lonely. I have no problem being celibate. My takeaway is that God is faithful. He can work all things together for good. The trials of my life have made me stronger and given me a depth of compassion. A good marriage is indeed a blessing but God is with us whether we are married or single and like Paul we can learn to be content in whatever circumstances we find ourselves in.
 
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She was reasonably affectionate before marriage even though there was no sex. She never seemed to enjoy intimacy that much and had no desire to deviate from a very limited perspective (trying to keep this clean :). We were both virgins (she said she was and I know I was) and so I had a natural curiosity to try some different things but all well within what is very normal and typical. She quickly shot down anything that was not the one way she was ok with. She didn't care much for foreplay and wanted it to go quickly then move on with her evening. I never sensed she enjoyed it. She did want to have children though. Each time she got pregnant, all forms of intimacy stopped until weeks after the child was born. There was no apparent reason for this. She had relatively routine pregnancies with no morning sickness or other ailments that sometimes affect pregnant women. She simply had no incentive since you can't get pregnant once you are pregnant... After our third child, she could no longer get pregnant and then had a full hysterectomy at age 39.

Her whole personality changed about 2 years into our marriage. She became friends with some women at church who were part of a group of families that were full-quiver, anti-birth control, pro-homeschooling, patriarchal, etc. That quickly became her identity. I was not hardcore about those things. I understood their reasons and respected them but did not see them as black-and-white as they did. While we did not fight over these things, the fact that I was not as convinced as she became a source of frustration for her and then judgment. I was soon labeled as carnal and unbiblical. I was neither but such was the extremes of her thinking. I was once accused of showing our children inappropriate contentography for watching the movie Spiderman with them. She told a counselor I was a drug addict because I drank caffeine during the day and took a mild med at night to treat restless leg syndrome. In her words, I was taking uppers during the day and downers to sleep. My caffeine intake was nothing out of the ordinary and the restless leg med was very mild. To call that drug addiction was crazy. I could go on but you get the idea. This all started once she fell in with that group although the dislike for sex was from the beginning.

I don't see the lesson learned is having sex before marriage to "be sure." The sex issues were the least of our problems and if that had been the only problem I could have lived with that. I don't know how I could have anticipated any of this ahead of time. We knew each other for over two years before marriage and even worked together. While you can never know everything there is to know about someone prior to marriage, I think I knew enough and just did not see any of this coming. I am still glad I waited until marriage to have sex. I did the right thing and will never second guess myself for that. If I had it to do over again, I still would have waited but probably never married. I have learned to be content single and celibate. I have no desire to remarry. I have lived alone for nearly 15 years now and am not lonely. I have no problem being celibate. My takeaway is that God is faithful. He can work all things together for good. The trials of my life have made me stronger and given me a depth of compassion. A good marriage is indeed a blessing but God is with us whether we are married or single and like Paul we can learn to be content in whatever circumstances we find ourselves in.

Your first paragraph about how she handled intimacy's would have been a deal breaker with me, and I would have given her the old heave-ho...not sure why you stuck around though. But that's me. Just saying.

You know, she reminds me of a woman I knew through Meetup that I later met on OK Cupid, she was in her 40s at the time, divorced, was actually a Russian mail-order bride in her first marriage.

She has a grown,married daugther,and she's a pretty hardcore Christian...she told me she doesn't believe in sex before marriage. 40+ year old men she had been on dates with said she'll never meet a man that'd be on board with that in that age bracket.

By getting to know her though, I sensed a very callous personality. And I don't think she liked animals (dogs/cats) either. Just something I sensed about her.

I made plans with my mom one day, prior to meeting up with our first date....she actually was interested in a 2nd date and it was for an event that fell on the plans I made with my mom....they were all day plans.

I told her I had plans with my mom (it was her Birthday or Mother's day , can't remember)....and at that point, she was kind of being pushy with, "Can't you go after?" or "How long is that going to take?"

I could tell she was the bossy type. She lacked sensitivity. It was a turn off.

She said she was looking for a guy to help her with her landscaping around the house, so I think she was looking to marry a guy for utilitarian reasons. Like she had an agenda as she said she's tired of doing it all her own.

Later on I heard she had gotten a face-lift when she didn't really need one.
 
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