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Primary source? That would be Bernie's mouth.
That would be the documents that the article sites but does not link to.
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Primary source? That would be Bernie's mouth.
Wasn’t Trump praising Kim Jong Un, Chinese President Xi and the Saudi king like... just last year?
How is that any different?
Bernie's mouth is not a document.That would be the documents that the article sites but does not link to.
The totality of control required to centralize the entire economy and enforce ideological conformity could not itself be anything but a crime.Yeah, sorry to break it to everyone, but there were things about the Soviet Union that were good. And you can ask any immigrant (or any person who still lives there), and they can praise those things without expressing support horrific crimes, Stalin's countless murders, etc.....
I agree, Trump just says and acts in a way that gets him what he wants for example look at the contrast of his demeanor on ‘The Apprentice’ compared to his tweets and rallies.That is true. But if he had run as a Democrat, he would have adopted a different personality.
The Bolsheviks never succeeded in enforcing ideological conformity. Only the appearance, and even that was always shaky.The totality of control required to centralize the entire economy and enforce ideological conformity could not itself be anything but a crime.
In other words the system didnt just do crimes.... the system itself was a crime.
Sigh.Bernie's mouth is not a document.
The new revelations were uncovered by a Washington Examiner investigation of archives at the University of Vermont containing papers from the time Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vt.
The documents reveal that Sanders, who calls himself a socialist, evinced enthusiasm for the two communist regimes.
The Bolsheviks never succeeded in enforcing ideological conformity. Only the appearance, and even that was always shaky.
And it doesn't matter: having reliable public transit and time off for people are good things. If a country run by criminal nutcases that took over after the Tsar's government collapsed under its own foolishness can have these things, we should be able to do better.
Not for lack of trying..... trying brutally hard.The Bolsheviks never succeeded in enforcing ideological conformity. Only the appearance, and even that was always shaky....
I agree with those 2 socialist goals. But lets keep in mind that that the Moscow subway was always a showpiece requiring vast investment. Somebody somewhere else was paying dearly for it, effectively....And it doesn't matter: having reliable public transit and time off for people are good things. If a country run by criminal nutcases that took over after the Tsar's government collapsed under its own foolishness can have these things, we should be able to do better.
Sorry to nitpick, but that's a little goalpost-moving. First you said they did enforce it, I said they didn't succeed, then you say they tried. Okay, well.Not for lack of trying..... trying brutally hard.
I agree with those 2 socialist goals. But lets keep in mind that that the Moscow subway was always a showpiece requiring vast investment. Somebody somewhere else was paying dearly for it, effectively.
Can you show when and where Bernie has done precisely that?I don't see any similarity between publicly stroking a foreign leader's ego as part of a negotiation tactic and publicly expressing admiration for an economic and governmental system that has caused mass poverty and the death of millions.
I dont get it. Enforcement is the effort to compel compliance. It doesnt ever mean total success in achieving compliance.Sorry to nitpick, but that's a little goalpost-moving. First you said they did enforce it, I said they didn't succeed, then you say they tried. Okay, well.
The Moscow subway is still better, decades later, than anything we have in this country. Far, far better than New York. In New York it's an open secret that tons of the money (public and fares) is eaten by organized crime. So...hooray for...what?
The fact that the Soviet Union committed countless crimes (let's be honest, so did the Imperial government through 1917) against its own people doesn't mean it's bad to have good public transit.
Sigh.
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bernie sanders praising communists video - Bing videoCan you show when and where Bernie has done precisely that?
I'm sure he has said some questionably nice things about various awful regimes. It's a common fault among ideologues of all flavors who want real world examples of their ideas and will overlook or minimize the atrocities of any government that puts some of them into practice. A much less commented on example of this comes from the right/libertarian side of the spectrum with praise for Pinochet because he let libertarian leaning economists run things while he was in power,.Can you show when and where Bernie has done precisely that?
I'm sure he has said some questionably nice things about various awful regimes. It's a common fault among ideologues of all flavors who want real world examples of their ideas and will overlook or minimize the atrocities of any government that puts some of them into practice. A much less commented on example of this comes from the right/libertarian side of the spectrum with praise for Pinochet because he let libertarian leaning economists run things while he was in power,.
It's funny, Sanders represents some things that people ACTUALLY WANT, and it's like it's illegal or something. Many, many people want single-payer health care, and it's like it's "not allowed" because Sanders said Soviet train travel was cheap.
Well thats a problem right there. There is in fact a lot more you can do than just assume.....I oppose Bernie Sanders because he is a socialist and as a socialist I can only assume that he desires socialism to be instituted in the United States. ACTUAL SOCIALISM not liberal social justice government programs but ACTUAL SOCIALUSM of the Cuba, Venezuela, Maoist China, USSR variety.....