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Sept 2019 the U.S. Navy confirms existence of UFOs with hard evidence including visual sightings over a period of years -- and also tracking them on radar as well as engaging them in arial maneuver (dog fights) where they are not firing on anything just trying to follow/track it.
Does your view of Christianity view this as a threat to Christianity? a threat to evangelism in the context of a public being informed that UFO's are real and not merely swamp gas? Or will it increase the ability to evangelize the public in favor of Christianity in your view?
Many people who have been discussing this idea for a long time ... claim that publicly admitting to it would be a problem for Christianity.
(After 12 pages -- I am coming to this conclusion -- 2 minutes ago #235
)
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Look at this post -- Monday at 7:32 PM #161 (CBS Inside Edition)
And this one -- Wednesday at 10:12 PM #190 (History)
CNN Sept 2019..
May 2019 ABC News GoodMorningAm George Stephanopoulos, Chris Mellon interview with lots of vid
2:35 What are you seeing?.. What I am seeing and what the experts we have brought in to view these tapes are seeing is something that is frankly baffling
Christopher Mellon: former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (the third highest intelligence position at the The Pentagon) and later for Security and Information Operations. He formerly served as the Staff Director of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
--Fox news 00:00 Sep 19 starts with Navy official acknowledgement Sept 2019
00:35 this seems like a “change” in the way govt/navy is addressing the topic
1:25 so US Govt admitting … this is watershed moment.. but not getting public reaction? Why?
History Channel – all 3 primary DOD videos - source of videos finally identified (see 2 minute point in this next video)
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compilation -
ufo news 2019 Nov - Bing video
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How all this news - came about - in the first place.
3:15 len: Fox News Christopher Mellon May 2019
00:25“we know UFOs exist
02:13 – History channel clip from unexplained.
03:00 operating in and around military installations
- intelligently controlled vehicles
- Safety issues - near mid-air collision with our military pilots
- US Sovereignty being violated by vehicles of unknown origin
============================= burden of proof has shifted.
As of 2019 --
Michio Kaku 0:39 seconds burden of proof shifts to UFO denier. “Game changer” fox news post it
Michio Kaku on US Navy UFO Confirmation - " The Evidence is Overwhelming"
0:54 “What has changed what is different now? We witnessing a tipping point ..the burden of proof has changed” It is now on those who want to make the case that UFOs are not what we are seeing. (Sept 2019)
Michio Kaku:
American theoretical physicist... professor of theoretical physics in the City College of New York and CUNY Graduate Center. ... He has written the New York Times best sellers: Physics of the Impossible (2008)
But what are the odds that 15 to 20 years ago we and the russians and the Chinese had drones going 20 times the speed of sound and would not generate a sonic boom as they did so?
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Consider this
1. We never say "swamp gas is not authorized to be in U.S. airspace"
2. We never say "swamp gas is a national security and safety problem"
3. we never say "incursion into our air space by some kind of aerial vehicle" is the kind of infraction that swamp gas is guilty of doing.
And yet... we have this.
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From: https://www.history.com/news/navy-confirms-ufo-videos-real
Navy Confirms UFO Videos Are Real and Show Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
HISTORY
VIEW: Declassified: UFOs Captured on Video by U.S. Fighter Pilots
The news that the Navy considers the three videos—unofficially known as “FLIR1,” “Gimbal” and “GoFast”—as examples of UAPs first appeared on The Black Vault, a web site that specializes in declassified government documents. “FLIR1” is from November 14, 2004, and “Gimbal” and “GoFast” are from January 21, 2015. Joseph Gradisher, official spokesperson for the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, emphasized to HISTORY that these videos represent only some of the UAP sightings the Navy is investigating.
“Those three videos are just part of a larger effort by the U.S. Navy to try and investigate a series of incursions into our training ranges by phenomena that we’re calling unidentified aerial phenomena,” says Gradisher, who declined to say how many sightings there have been. “Our aviators train as they fight. So when they’re out there training, if there’s an incursion by any kind of aerial vehicle phenomena, whatever, it puts the safety of our aviators at risk as well as the security of our training operations.”
READ MORE: Are UFOs a Threat to National Security? This Ex-U.S. Official Thinks They Warrant Investigation
To be clear, the Navy is not saying that these videos show evidence of alien life. Rather, the Navy is saying it can’t identify the phenomena in the videos. The Navy considers UAPs like these a national security and safety problem because they are not authorized to be in U.S. airspace. After a series of classified briefings featuring Navy pilots and lawmakers this summer, the Navy announced it had formalized its process for pilots and other personnel to report UAPs so that records of these sightings are more consistent, and therefore easier to investigate.
===========================
Regarding this post -- Monday at 7:32 PM #161 (CBS Inside Edition)
we have.
1. No flight control surfaces
2. Bounces when it changes direction like a ping pong ball bouncing off a board
3. Rapid 2 to 3 second acceleration to mach 28 past horizon - then back in a few seconds hovering again.
4. Accelerate through Mach 20, Mach 28 speeds without triggering sonic booms
5. Easily out maneuvers top of the line jet fighters.
6. Unauthorized incursions into our air space and we don't fire on them or do anything to inform them they are not authorized. They operate with impunity.
=====================
A history of documented above-top-secret classification regarding this topic
10 Shocking Statements about UFOs by Scientists and Government Officials | Mysterious Universe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...os-are-real-navy-says-please-stop-saying-ufo/
========================================
Update April 2020
Those "announcements" above were all from 2019.. but now in 2020 -- April - the DOD has come out to "remind us" that they already told us all this and that it is all "legit".
Statement by the Department of Defense on the Release of Historical Navy Videos > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release
https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/pentagon-declassifies-three-ufo-videos-taken-by-us-navy-pilots/
Does your view of Christianity view this as a threat to Christianity? a threat to evangelism in the context of a public being informed that UFO's are real and not merely swamp gas? Or will it increase the ability to evangelize the public in favor of Christianity in your view?
Many people who have been discussing this idea for a long time ... claim that publicly admitting to it would be a problem for Christianity.
(After 12 pages -- I am coming to this conclusion -- 2 minutes ago #235
)
================================================
Look at this post -- Monday at 7:32 PM #161 (CBS Inside Edition)
And this one -- Wednesday at 10:12 PM #190 (History)
2:35 What are you seeing?.. What I am seeing and what the experts we have brought in to view these tapes are seeing is something that is frankly baffling
- "It’s hard to understand – how do these vehicles maintain lift
- "How are they propelled? There are no wing surfaces and there is no exhaust.
- "So there’s nothing that we are familiar with that we have deployed in the air that has a power source other than fuel .. chemical energy power source.
- "These are so radically different than anything we are familiar with and their performance is so advanced and so sophisticated it is baffling (3:11)
Christopher Mellon: former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (the third highest intelligence position at the The Pentagon) and later for Security and Information Operations. He formerly served as the Staff Director of the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
00:35 this seems like a “change” in the way govt/navy is addressing the topic
1:25 so US Govt admitting … this is watershed moment.. but not getting public reaction? Why?
History Channel – all 3 primary DOD videos - source of videos finally identified (see 2 minute point in this next video)
================================
compilation -
ufo news 2019 Nov - Bing video
=====================================
How all this news - came about - in the first place.
00:25“we know UFOs exist
02:13 – History channel clip from unexplained.
03:00 operating in and around military installations
- intelligently controlled vehicles
- Safety issues - near mid-air collision with our military pilots
- US Sovereignty being violated by vehicles of unknown origin
============================= burden of proof has shifted.
As of 2019 --
Michio Kaku 0:39 seconds burden of proof shifts to UFO denier. “Game changer” fox news post it
Michio Kaku on US Navy UFO Confirmation - " The Evidence is Overwhelming"
0:54 “What has changed what is different now? We witnessing a tipping point ..the burden of proof has changed” It is now on those who want to make the case that UFOs are not what we are seeing. (Sept 2019)
Michio Kaku:
American theoretical physicist... professor of theoretical physics in the City College of New York and CUNY Graduate Center. ... He has written the New York Times best sellers: Physics of the Impossible (2008)
But what are the odds that 15 to 20 years ago we and the russians and the Chinese had drones going 20 times the speed of sound and would not generate a sonic boom as they did so?
===========================
Consider this
1. We never say "swamp gas is not authorized to be in U.S. airspace"
2. We never say "swamp gas is a national security and safety problem"
3. we never say "incursion into our air space by some kind of aerial vehicle" is the kind of infraction that swamp gas is guilty of doing.
And yet... we have this.
==================================
From: https://www.history.com/news/navy-confirms-ufo-videos-real
Navy Confirms UFO Videos Are Real and Show Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
HISTORY
VIEW: Declassified: UFOs Captured on Video by U.S. Fighter Pilots
The news that the Navy considers the three videos—unofficially known as “FLIR1,” “Gimbal” and “GoFast”—as examples of UAPs first appeared on The Black Vault, a web site that specializes in declassified government documents. “FLIR1” is from November 14, 2004, and “Gimbal” and “GoFast” are from January 21, 2015. Joseph Gradisher, official spokesperson for the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, emphasized to HISTORY that these videos represent only some of the UAP sightings the Navy is investigating.
“Those three videos are just part of a larger effort by the U.S. Navy to try and investigate a series of incursions into our training ranges by phenomena that we’re calling unidentified aerial phenomena,” says Gradisher, who declined to say how many sightings there have been. “Our aviators train as they fight. So when they’re out there training, if there’s an incursion by any kind of aerial vehicle phenomena, whatever, it puts the safety of our aviators at risk as well as the security of our training operations.”
READ MORE: Are UFOs a Threat to National Security? This Ex-U.S. Official Thinks They Warrant Investigation
To be clear, the Navy is not saying that these videos show evidence of alien life. Rather, the Navy is saying it can’t identify the phenomena in the videos. The Navy considers UAPs like these a national security and safety problem because they are not authorized to be in U.S. airspace. After a series of classified briefings featuring Navy pilots and lawmakers this summer, the Navy announced it had formalized its process for pilots and other personnel to report UAPs so that records of these sightings are more consistent, and therefore easier to investigate.
===========================
Regarding this post -- Monday at 7:32 PM #161 (CBS Inside Edition)
we have.
1. No flight control surfaces
2. Bounces when it changes direction like a ping pong ball bouncing off a board
3. Rapid 2 to 3 second acceleration to mach 28 past horizon - then back in a few seconds hovering again.
4. Accelerate through Mach 20, Mach 28 speeds without triggering sonic booms
5. Easily out maneuvers top of the line jet fighters.
6. Unauthorized incursions into our air space and we don't fire on them or do anything to inform them they are not authorized. They operate with impunity.
=====================
A history of documented above-top-secret classification regarding this topic
10 Shocking Statements about UFOs by Scientists and Government Officials | Mysterious Universe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...os-are-real-navy-says-please-stop-saying-ufo/
========================================
Update April 2020
Those "announcements" above were all from 2019.. but now in 2020 -- April - the DOD has come out to "remind us" that they already told us all this and that it is all "legit".
Statement by the Department of Defense on the Release of Historical Navy Videos > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release
https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/pentagon-declassifies-three-ufo-videos-taken-by-us-navy-pilots/
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