How do you feel that LGBT will now be taught to Primary School children?

98cwitr said:

A bit vague and subjective to each parent don't you think?

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That is a difficulty with all public school curriculum.

TEDx speaker argues that pedophilia should be accepted as "an unchangeable sexual orientation" - Metro Weekly

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/201...-as-sexual-orientation-in-california-schools/

Again, mark my words...it's the next step

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And maybe she is right. But I also notice that she came out strong against it.

Granted I suppose I can take some hope in the change of the blood libel from consensual homosexuality is the same as pedophilia to a less nasty but just as nonsensical acceptance of homosexuality will lead to accepting pedophilia.

Speedwell said:

That is a difficulty with all public school curriculum.
And maybe she is right. But I also notice that she came out strong against it.

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We should ALL be coming out strong against it. It's those who are silent on the issue that are worrying me.

98cwitr said:

It's those who are silent on the issue that are worrying me.

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On this issue far too often anything sort of reflection or investigation of it, rather than running around screaming pitch fork and torch in hand, is viewed as acceptance or "silence".

98cwitr said:

We should ALL be coming out strong against it. It's those who are silent on the issue that are worrying me.

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What do you mean by "silent?" I'm opposed to pedophilia just like most people, I just don't have an opportunity to express my opinion very often. But you seem to be confused about the difference between recognizing pedophilia as possibly a sexual orientation and approving of it.

Even Christians recognize homosexuality as a sexual orientation. It is homosexual acts which are regarded as sinful and disapproved of. Even if pedophilia was a sexual orientation, acts of pedophilia would still be a heinous crime.

Speedwell said:

What do you mean by "silent?" I'm opposed to pedophilia just like most people, I just don't have an opportunity to express my opinion very often. But you seem to be confused about the difference between recognizing pedophilia as possibly a sexual orientation and approving of it.

Even Christians recognize homosexuality as a sexual orientation. It is homosexual acts which are regarded as sinful and disapproved of. Even if pedophilia was a sexual orientation, acts of pedophilia would still be a heinous crime.

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It'll be just another "they were born that way" or "they can't help their desires" narrative. The real question is will LGBT take it under their wing (I suspect they will), and will we not speak out against it when that happens (I fear many will see LGBT as "too big/oppressed to criticize" as it seems to be now)?

dzheremi said:

I don't really understand that, as it's not like having an LGBT soldier in the American Revolution or something would change its outcome one way or another), but it would be nice.

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Alan Turing was a big deal during WWII and I had never heard of him until the movie about him came out. I may not have even watched the movie if it wasn't for Benedict Cumberbatch. I'm glad I did.

98cwitr said:

It'll be just another "they were born that way" or "they can't help their desires" narrative.

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I am not getting the leap of logic between that and hey let them rape kids. Care to explain that bit?

Desk trauma said:

I am not getting the leap of logic between that and hey let them rape kids. Care to explain that bit?

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It's about accepting what one "cannot change" (it's natural!) and "boiling the frog." What you're calling "rape" they're going to call consent (proof here). As soon as they're either accepted into LGBT or the AHA states that it's now a sexual orientation the push to change the narrative will occur. We find this same progression through the rest of LGBT (compare the 1990s to now).

98cwitr said:

It's about accepting what one "cannot change" (it's natural!) and "boiling the frog."

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Accepting that a person could not change their sexual attrition to prepubescent children does not lead to ok go do it. Outside of the blood libel anyway.

98cwitr said:

What you're calling "rape" they're going to call consent (proof here).

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And they would be incorrect. Also, I have to keep asking as no one ever says, where do I get this future/ alternative timeline viewer that so many people here seem to be using?

98cwitr said:

As soon as they're either accepted into LGBT or the AHA states that it's now a sexual orientation the push to change the narrative will occur.

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I have been listening to the blood libel for going into a third decade now yet nothing has progressed on that front. Is this a geological/second coming time scale soon?

98cwitr said:

We find this same progression through the rest of LGBT (compare the 1990s to now).

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No, you do not. No matter how often you repeat the blood libel there is no comparison between consensual sex and raping kids.

J Daniel said:

There will be no OPT OUT OPTION.............

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What's this about, and where?!

hedrick said:

Reading the No Outsiders books

Information in newspaper stories isn't very specific, but it appears that the sexual side isn't taught to young ages. What is taught is accepting diversity, over the whole spectrum including race and religion as well, and the existence of families with parents of the same gender.

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I fully support this approach and see nothing wrong with it.

Speedwell said:

What do you mean by "silent?" I'm opposed to pedophilia just like most people, I just don't have an opportunity to express my opinion very often. But you seem to be confused about the difference between recognizing pedophilia as possibly a sexual orientation and approving of it.

Even Christians recognize homosexuality as a sexual orientation. It is homosexual acts which are regarded as sinful and disapproved of. Even if pedophilia was a sexual orientation, acts of pedophilia would still be a heinous crime.

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As Jesus made clear, when a person sins "in their heart" (with evil, sinful thoughts/ desires) , they are as guilty as if they commit the sin.

Let's not be so naive as to pretend that getting public acceptance of pedophilia as a sexual orientation is for any reason other than to make the act of sex with children publicly acceptable.

Knee V said:

Let's not be so naive as to pretend that getting public acceptance of pedophilia as a sexual orientation is for any reason other than to make the act of sex with children publicly acceptable.

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Let’s also not pretend that the homosexual blood libel is in anyway rooted in reality or relevant to this, or any, discussion.

Knee V said:

Let's not be so naive as to pretend that getting public acceptance of pedophilia as a sexual orientation is for any reason other than to make the act of sex with children publicly acceptable.

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Or rather "legally", not "publicly", so as to recognize that
the righteous NEVER find it acceptable .....

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Or rather "legally", not "publicly", so as to recognize that
the righteous NEVER find it acceptable .....

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Fair enough.

Desk trauma said:

Let’s also not pretend that the homosexual blood libel is in anyway rooted in reality or relevant to this, or any, discussion.

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There are heterosexual pedophiles as well.

Knee V said:

There are heterosexual pedophiles as well.

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Yahuweh calls them sinners ....

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Yahuweh calls them sinners ....

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I didn't understand the "homosexual blood libel" comment, and was just emphasizing that I am not saying anything about homosexuality, but pedophilia.