A Hollywood executive wanted Julia Roberts to play Harriet Tubman in a biopic

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t's still not accurate, but at least Yul Brynner had partial Buryat ancestry. The Buryats are definitely Asian (being a Mongolic people):
Yeah, "Asian" covers a lot of territory. I don't think that Thais are considered Mongolic, though, are they?

I always found that weird. Even when Lancelot was interpreted by a Chilean, I always thought he was British
What is "Chilean"? That's a colonized country, not an ethnicity. British? He could be Welsh.

https://psmag.com/education/yes-there-were-poc-in-medieval-europe

https://www.publicmedievalist.com/uncovering-african/

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The average person may be less educated than some but is not stupid.
By definition, the average person would be less educated than some and more educated than others. The jury is out on "stupid".
 
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By definition, the average person would be less educated than some and more educated than others. The jury is out on "stupid".


As someone who works in the media and who studies demographics, just like ad agencies do, they and I have a breakdown of all of the different ways they can use to reach a target audience. Everything, including stupid, needs to be clearly defined.
 
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This is another Leftist issue, and drew protesters to a King Tut exhibit at the Smithsonian. Egyptians at that time would have had a tan complexion. That's what the science shows. But black? No. Look at a photo of former Egyptian President Anwar Sadat.
 
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Yeah, "Asian" covers a lot of territory. I don't think that Thais are considered Mongolic, though, are they?

I doubt you would ever get a Thai person to play the part anyway - 'The King and I ' is banned in Thailand as it's considered insulting to the Thai royal family.
 
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Yes, of course not. Can Hollywood get any stupider? We will see.
It's Shakespeare, different races of people have played roles in Shakespeare.

Cate Blanchett played Bob Dylan, it doesn't have to be an exact science. Nonetheless, everything is not equal; changing the race or gender of characters that are traditionally discriminated against has greater impact than those that are not. Arguing that the same action makes something equal is ridiculous: a parent taking a picture of their child taking a bath is not the same as a stranger taking a picture of child that is not theirs taking a bath.
 
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Yes. Hollywood controls my mind... That is just false thinking and arbitrary. In its desire to show how great it is, Hollywood picks a 'person of color,' preferably a woman, and puts her on NPR. The interviewer calls her someone with "power and influence." Power and influence given by who?

These are the same people who condemn white men for their skin color.
 
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Yeah, "Asian" covers a lot of territory. I don't think that Thais are considered Mongolic, though, are they?

No, they aren't. That's why I wrote that it's still inaccurate. It's just less inaccurate than other examples in the same list. At least he's partially from an indigenous ethnic group on the same continent. (He was born in Siberia, so definitely on the Asian side of the Urals.)
 
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As far as Hollywood movie accuracy is concerned in portraying WW2 just talk to any Canadian, Brit, Frenchman, Pole or just about any other nationality that was in action. America won the war. All hail America!
 
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But black? No. Look at a photo of former Egyptian President Anwar Sadat.

Oooo...this is almost painful to read. A different example would've certainly served you better, as Anwar Sadat was Nubian, and Nubians are native black people of Egypt and Sudan. Sadat's mother was Nubian on her father's side, and Sadat's black background was the cause of much racist criticism from lighter-skinned Egyptians at time (or so people at church have told me in the past).

Egyptian is an ethnic, not racial identifier. I've met Egyptians who would definitely be called black in the west, as well as swarthy/tan ones, and white ones. There is even a group of Egyptians and Sudanese called "Magyarab" who are descended from Hungarians who came to Egypt during Ottoman times who married local Nubian women, producing Hungarian-Nubians!
 
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As far as Hollywood movie accuracy is concerned in portraying WW2 just talk to any Canadian, Brit, Frenchman, Pole or just about any other nationality that was in action. America won the war. All hail America!

Surely there must be movies from all those places about their own fight in WWII, to lionize their own contributions? I know the Soviets produced a very large number, for instance.

Complaining that movies from America aimed specifically at Americans would focus more on American contributions than Polish ones is a bit silly in this context.
 
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How is it playing any kind of game to point out that a guy who you recommended that other people look at to see that Egyptians aren't black was, in fact, a black guy?

It's the leftist game of being accurate. One the rightists don't play.
 
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