Very Recently Left Catholicism And Need Advice For Dealing With The Fallout From Catholics

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Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did. Lots of you're going to hell type comments and the Catholic church is the only church that Jesus is in or that he started. My favorites are that I left because of the scandals or the LGBT movement. I will say that I lean liberal in many things, but also conservative in others. I vote independent and not down party lines.

I left because I just don't agree with Catholicism and I was what they considered a cradle Catholic. I have been doing much research into Catholicism over the past few years, reading about the early church fathers and early Christianity and what I have come to realize is that the phrase, "history is written by the victors" is so true! What I see is that they are the true church because they were the first ones to claim it and nothing more.

Also don't believe the old phrase, "Once Catholic, always Catholic." Especially for those who through no choice of their own were baptized Catholic as infants such as I was. Had I been given a choice, I wouldn't have been Catholic. I believe that is just a way to scare you into staying with Catholicism. I am not necessarily against being baptized as an infant, just that the baptism doesn't bind you to one denomination.

So, after realizing that I just don't agree with many things that the Catholic church says, I couldn't stay.

What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?

Haven't chosen a church to attend yet, as I didn't go this weekend wanting a break from things and having too much to do around my apartment.

I will say that I want to stay liturgical and am leaning Episcopal.
 

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Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did. Lots of you're going to hell type comments and the Catholic church is the only church that Jesus is in or that he started. My favorites are that I left because of the scandals or the LGBT movement. I will say that I lean liberal in many things, but also conservative in others. I vote independent and not down party lines.

I left because I just don't agree with Catholicism and I was what they considered a cradle Catholic. I have been doing much research into Catholicism over the past few years, reading about the early church fathers and early Christianity and what I have come to realize is that the phrase, "history is written by the victors" is so true! What I see is that they are the true church because they were the first ones to claim it and nothing more.

Also don't believe the old phrase, "Once Catholic, always Catholic." Especially for those who through no choice of their own were baptized Catholic as infants such as I was. Had I been given a choice, I wouldn't have been Catholic. I believe that is just a way to scare you into staying with Catholicism. I am not necessarily against being baptized as an infant, just that the baptism doesn't bind you to one denomination.

So, after realizing that I just don't agree with many things that the Catholic church says, I couldn't stay.

What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?

Haven't chosen a church to attend yet, as I didn't go this weekend wanting a break from things and having too much to do around my apartment.

I will say that I want to stay liturgical and am leaning Episcopal.
Tell them to be a hypocrite would be far worse.
God bless you in your new path.
 
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"Once a Catholic, always a Catholic" is the Roman Catholic Church's view of the matter. But so what if they count you as being under their jurisdiction after you have moved to another part of Christ's church?! It doesn't matter at all.

But as for your Catholic friends and their behavior towards you, I am sure that explaining church history, patristics, or any of that to them would be useless. They repeat what they have been told by the church that they trust.

So, I would find a way to politely turn their comments aside, perhaps with a little bit of humor, making clear that you remain a convinced disciple of Our Lord as always and think of them as genuine Christians, too.
 
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What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?
As written "when they persecute you (God's True Messengers) in one place, FLEE TO THE NEXT" .....
This was true in the first century, and is true always until Jesus Returns.
 
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I too was a cradle Catholic who eventually left. I received no blowback at all for two reasons. The RC in Saskatchewan was very open and progressive as were my family and friends. When I moved to Ontario it was like stepping back in time a hundred years or more. Also, I left just after my move so I did not have a circle of Catholic friend or even a regular church.
 
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@Isilwen , have you ever had a Born-Again experience?

If you have not, you will be stuck trying to stand in your own strength.

If/when you have, God can empower/motivate you to stand.
 
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Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did. Lots of you're going to hell type comments and the Catholic church is the only church that Jesus is in or that he started. My favorites are that I left because of the scandals or the LGBT movement. I will say that I lean liberal in many things, but also conservative in others. I vote independent and not down party lines.

I left because I just don't agree with Catholicism and I was what they considered a cradle Catholic. I have been doing much research into Catholicism over the past few years, reading about the early church fathers and early Christianity and what I have come to realize is that the phrase, "history is written by the victors" is so true! What I see is that they are the true church because they were the first ones to claim it and nothing more.

Also don't believe the old phrase, "Once Catholic, always Catholic." Especially for those who through no choice of their own were baptized Catholic as infants such as I was. Had I been given a choice, I wouldn't have been Catholic. I believe that is just a way to scare you into staying with Catholicism. I am not necessarily against being baptized as an infant, just that the baptism doesn't bind you to one denomination.

So, after realizing that I just don't agree with many things that the Catholic church says, I couldn't stay.

What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?

Haven't chosen a church to attend yet, as I didn't go this weekend wanting a break from things and having too much to do around my apartment.

I will say that I want to stay liturgical and am leaning Episcopal.


I am not in a so different place, although I have not really been antagonized by anyone. I was a Catholic by choice (RCIA) for nearly 10 years, but left for a number of personal and theological reasons. Actually, no one from my old parish ever reached out to see why I had left - and I was a weekly attender and member of the KOC in the parish.

I do believe in the "once a Catholic always a Catholic" phrase, but only in as much as I can go back if I choose (well, if I could sort our my marriage situation with the RCC) - but I do not see that happening at the moment.

I ended in the ELCA Lutheran church, most services are fairly high church (for Protestants), and the liturgy will be something you are familiar with as it is very similar to a NO Mass. I would check out both the local ELCA and Episcopal Churches to see if you fit into any of them. The different parishes will vary so check out a few. We had to go to three Lutheran parishes until we found one that fit our situation.
 
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@Isilwen , have you ever had a Born-Again experience?

If you have not, you will be stuck trying to stand in your own strength.

If/when you have, God can empower/motivate you to stand.

I believe that through my Catholic baptism, that while it doesn't tie me to Catholicism, it does indeed qualify as a born again experience. I realize that there is some debate about that, and what constitutes a born again experience, but I am firm on that stance.

I am a Christian by baptism and born again by baptism.

Thank you for your response.
 
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Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did. Lots of you're going to hell type comments and the Catholic church is the only church that Jesus is in or that he started. My favorites are that I left because of the scandals or the LGBT movement. I will say that I lean liberal in many things, but also conservative in others. I vote independent and not down party lines.

I left because I just don't agree with Catholicism and I was what they considered a cradle Catholic. I have been doing much research into Catholicism over the past few years, reading about the early church fathers and early Christianity and what I have come to realize is that the phrase, "history is written by the victors" is so true! What I see is that they are the true church because they were the first ones to claim it and nothing more.

Also don't believe the old phrase, "Once Catholic, always Catholic." Especially for those who through no choice of their own were baptized Catholic as infants such as I was. Had I been given a choice, I wouldn't have been Catholic. I believe that is just a way to scare you into staying with Catholicism. I am not necessarily against being baptized as an infant, just that the baptism doesn't bind you to one denomination.

So, after realizing that I just don't agree with many things that the Catholic church says, I couldn't stay.

What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?

Haven't chosen a church to attend yet, as I didn't go this weekend wanting a break from things and having too much to do around my apartment.

I will say that I want to stay liturgical and am leaning Episcopal.
I was a cradle Catholic as well.

What it all comes down to is how we answer the question Jesus poses to all:

“Who do you say that I am?”

We must answer that question in the Spirit and Truth. Only the Father can give us the words.

Welcome to CF by the way.
 
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I was a cradle Catholic as well.

What it all comes down to is how we answer the question Jesus poses to all:

“Who do you say that I am?”

We must answer that question in the Spirit and Truth. Only the Father can give us the words.

Welcome to CF by the way.

I can actually answer that as I have always believed this.

“I am the way and the truth and the life."

Thank you for the welcome!
 
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I wanted to add that I am leaning more towards the Episcopal church at this time as from the outside currently it seems to tick off more of my boxes of agreement than any other church, plus, my girlfriend is Episcopalian by birth and baptism.

Although, she doesn't attend now and had some issues when she was younger with treatment of an Episcopal priest that wasn't treated fairly in her church, if and when we get married, it would be nice to be on the same page church wise.
 
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Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did. Lots of you're going to hell type comments and the Catholic church is the only church that Jesus is in or that he started. My favorites are that I left because of the scandals or the LGBT movement. I will say that I lean liberal in many things, but also conservative in others. I vote independent and not down party lines.

I left because I just don't agree with Catholicism and I was what they considered a cradle Catholic. I have been doing much research into Catholicism over the past few years, reading about the early church fathers and early Christianity and what I have come to realize is that the phrase, "history is written by the victors" is so true! What I see is that they are the true church because they were the first ones to claim it and nothing more.

Also don't believe the old phrase, "Once Catholic, always Catholic." Especially for those who through no choice of their own were baptized Catholic as infants such as I was. Had I been given a choice, I wouldn't have been Catholic. I believe that is just a way to scare you into staying with Catholicism. I am not necessarily against being baptized as an infant, just that the baptism doesn't bind you to one denomination.

So, after realizing that I just don't agree with many things that the Catholic church says, I couldn't stay.

What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?

Haven't chosen a church to attend yet, as I didn't go this weekend wanting a break from things and having too much to do around my apartment.

I will say that I want to stay liturgical and am leaning Episcopal.

Seek out books by Scott Hahn and Steve Ray. 2 protestants who became Catholics. Lots of good info regarding any questions you have, or doubts, about the Catholic church my friend.
 
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I believe that through my Catholic baptism, that while it doesn't tie me to Catholicism, it does indeed qualify as a born again experience. I realize that there is some debate about that, and what constitutes a born again experience, but I am firm on that stance.

I am a Christian by baptism and born again by baptism.

Thank you for your response.
John chapter 3 is a really great passage about the new birth, as explained by the Lord Jesus.
 
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"Once a Catholic, always a Catholic" is the Roman Catholic Church's view of the matter. But so what if they count you as being under their jurisdiction after you have moved to another part of Christ's church?! It doesn't matter at all.

But as for your Catholic friends and their behavior towards you, I am sure that explaining church history, patristics, or any of that to them would be useless. They repeat what they have been told by the church that they trust.

So, I would find a way to politely turn their comments aside, perhaps with a little bit of humor, making clear that you remain a convinced disciple of Our Lord as always and think of them as genuine Christians, too.

Much like protestants repeat, again and again, the same old untruths about Catholicism. Where, they haven't got a clue about Catholicism and rely on old lies sewn many, many years ago.
 
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Seek out books by Scott Hahn and Steve Ray. 2 protestants who became Catholics. Lots of good info regarding any questions you have, or doubts, about the Catholic church my friend.

That was one of the books that I read, the one from Scott, but it just further drew me away from the Catholic church.

I am away from the Catholic church, and I after all my research plan on staying that way.
 
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John chapter 3 is a really great passage about the new birth, as explained by the Lord Jesus.

As I said, through my baptism as a Catholic I was born again. I am not going to debate that.
 
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That was one of the books that I read, the one from Scott, but it just further drew me away from the Catholic church.

I am away from the Catholic church, and I after all my research plan on staying that way.

Well, that is your choice my friend.

May God bless you.
 
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