Ed1wolf
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Actually we know much better what he believed than what most other historical figures of the same time period believed. We have both biblical from less than 30 years from his death and extrabiblical information about James written within less than 3 years of his brothers death. We have much better documentary evidence for James beliefs than we do for people mentioned by Homer, Herodotus, Plato, Demosthenes, Caesar, and many other ancient historians.Ed1wolf said: ↑Yes, but not knowingly. And as Jesus' brother and a skeptic while Jesus was alive, he would more than most know the real truth of whether Jesus rose from the dead. Notice how in the "Elvis is still alive believers", NONE are relatives of Elvis.
cv: As stated in another response, people can be falsely accused of something, and still be punished. We really don't know what his brother believed, or did not believe.
It would mean that he believed it was true to the point of being willing to die for it because they would not have killed him if he had recanted. It means it was not made up by him or the disciples and was not a dream or hallucination.cv: But the history could still state that one is killed for a belief, when maybe they never truly held or felt in reality. But even if he did, how would this validate the truth?
Martyrs don't consciously kill themselves, they are killed by others, Muslim radicals commit suicide while killing others that is not martyrdom that is suicidal murder. See above why James martyrdom is a strong gauge for truth.cv: Again, if martyrdom is the gauge for truth, then radical Muslim extremists are clearly the winners.
Nothing just that you are a rare bird. Congratulations.Ed1wolf said: ↑
Then you are one of the few atheists I have talked to where that is the case.
cv: Great. Now what?
Nevertheless, while it does not prove it is valid, it is one more piece of evidence that it is true. There is no other major religion where their leader has died that people still claim to be able to talk to them and get responses back from Him. This is evidence that He is still alive.Ed1wolf said: ↑
Name another major religion where the founder was killed and then rose from the dead and people believe they are communicating with that founder.
cv: Gonna have to 'rubber stamp' you here...
Argument from Ignorance: "The assumption of a conclusion or fact based primarily on lack of evidence to the contrary. Usually best described by, “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”
"Oh yea, can you think of a better explanation?"
But aside from this... the response is simple: Just because the story line might be unique, does nothing to validate it's truth.
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