Are Christians who have freedom of religion SLEEPY?

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The following article is encouraging in so many ways but the part that really has me thinking is that I admit it...... I also tend to be sleepy spiritually............. I can learn a lot from the underground Iranian church.

Over this past year and a half I do feel that I have been given a higher level of conviction over this serious sin of being LUKEWARM........ spiritually proud......... and lacking in the kind of thankfulness to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that I know I should feel!


Fastest growing church has no buildings, no central leadership, and is mostly led by women | God Reports

“When you ask most people what the most existential threat is to Israel and they will say Iran – and that’s true. But behind the curtain of what God is doing, God is raising up one of the fastest growing movements of former Muslims that are falling in love not only with the God of Israel, not only Israel’s king, not only Israel’s Messiah, they are actually falling in love with the Jewish people. As a result of this you have a prayer movement in Iran that is crying out for the salvation of Israel.”

The film cites one Iranian couple that had the opportunity to move to the U.S. After living in America for a matter of months, the wife decided she wanted to move back to Iran, telling her surprised husband: “There is a satanic lullaby here. All the Christians are sleepy and I’m feeling sleepy.”

One leader with FIA notes the alarming nature of her conclusion. “That story was disturbing because that woman was discerning a threat to her faith that was a greater threat than the kind of persecution that happens in Iran. She saw that spiritual sleepiness is a greater threat to her faith than persecution.”

The film observes that the only church in the book of Revelation not critiqued by Jesus was under persecution and suffering. “If freedom is such a great thing for the Kingdom, then why is Europe and America in the state they are in?” an Iranian believer asks.

“When we walk outside, we really don’t care if we get arrested, we are not upset if we get arrested. What is 50 years in prison compared to eternity with Jesus?”

The filmmakers contend the church in Iran offers wisdom to impart. “I believe that what is happening in the church in Iran is going to become a measuring stick for the global body of Christ. It is not something we will be able to admire from afar. It is going to be something we are required to participate in. It is going to disrupt our lives,” one U.S.-based leader with FIA says.

“I believe the Lord is going to take this issue of the testimony, the story, the witness of the church in Iran and thrust it into the heart of the global body of Christ, that we would follow in their footsteps and learn from them. I believe the Lord is putting this message on blast for us to prepare us for the days ahead.”
 

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Wake-up call to all of us. Thank you Dennis.

Thank you..... I actually attempted to describe the increase in CONVICTION
over my sins that I began to feel in a new way back in 2018.......


2018 outpouring, are you feeling it? I am!

At my wife's Pentecostal church this Sunday.... .which was also Pentecost......
a "Fire Tunnel" / blessing tunnel was done.......... and the outpouring was amazing......

I haven't seen anything even remotely like it in about a decade.

Day before yesterday, Monday, was even more powerful in many ways and all I could do for more than one hour........was go for walks and pray...... I am beginning this discussion because I believe that some of you will feel this and i think I know how to assist you to go through this.......... in the easiest way possible.

The key to making this as easy as possible ..... is HUMILITY!




Isaiah 2:11

"The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.
For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:"
.....

Isaiah 2:17

"And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day.
And the idols he shall utterly abolish.
And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."

I have been feeling tremendous conviction over my own pride.......
I may seem somewhat humble to you.... because I really try to be polite.......
but politeness is not HUMILITY......
and G-d will not dwell with people who are not sincerely and genuinely humble.......


Isaiah 57:15

"For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones."



 
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Sleeping Christianity = spirit willing, flesh weak. It speaks of immaturity. Christ’s orders are to stay awake and watch. But because of the weakness of flesh they see one moment and immediately forget what they have seen, like it was a dream and not the reality they are experiencing.
 
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Thank you for posting this.

I personally have a very, very, very, very strange testimony........
I went through a time of disappointment and anger at Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that was pretty serious
back in 1990.........

I actually described my weird and unusual experience to Orthodox Jewish Sanhedrin Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander back in 2010. I asked Rabbi Hollander's permission to make our discussion public and he gave me permission to do so:

Warning... the following discussion is in the forum "Ask a Jew - What's New. Questions about the Messiah" and this gets into ideas that I believe are NOT MILK........... and may not be for new Christians / Lambs in Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.

My conversation with the Rabbi.....



Is my first e-mail to Sanhedrin Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander appropriate for this forum?

Rabbi Hollander did respond several times and we are even friends on Facebook at this time.

If this is too controversial I will not be offended if you delete this. Over these last few years I came to the conclusion that in a sense...... all of us Christians, Messianic Jews and Messianic Gentiles should identify ourselves with Bar Abbas / Barabbas..... who in a sense was the metaphorical "goat for Azazel."

If we feel that our own sins are so few and so insignificant that we cannot be compared with Bar Abbas / Barabbas....... then we may have a bit of a problem with spiritual pride.
 
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Sleeping Christianity = spirit willing, flesh weak. It speaks of immaturity. Christ’s orders are to stay awake and watch. But because of the weakness of flesh they see one moment and immediately forget what they have seen, like it was a dream and not the reality they are experiencing.

Exactly!!!!!!!!

I have moments when I really am kind of HOT metaphorically speaking...... on fire to go through the massive doors set before me............ but then within hours I can be all distracted by very carnal and selfish pursuits!!!!!
 
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Christians whom have freedom of religion are not necessarily sleepy, but do run the risk of becoming complacent and lazy spiritually if they do not keep themselves close to their first love, Jesus Christ. The story of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25 is a warning for all of us that's why we aught to provoke one another to love God and each other and to do what is good:

Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
 
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Compelling article. Thank you, Dennis. Will watch the film later.

Back in 1990 as I was going through a decade long time of anger and disappointment with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus I often used four letter words as I was praying...........
I was deliberately attempting to get Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to SMITE ME.... . literally or metaphorically?

I went into this in the second of my two blogs here on ChristianForums:
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Exactly!!!!!!!!

I have moments when I really am kind of HOT metaphorically speaking...... on fire to go through the massive doors set before me............ but then within hours I can be all distracted by very carnal and selfish pursuits!!!!!
Probably their prayers are for spiritual Israel’s (New Jerusalem) peace considering the content.
 
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