How many ex-Christians are there here on CF and reason for leaving Christianity?

Did you leave Christianity? And did you return?


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Some would agree, but I sure don't. I'd say that it's ourselves that we need to forgive.
There's a lot of truth in that. It's also Christian. If God forgives us but we refuse to forgive ourselves we are putting our judgement above God's judgement.
 
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I didn't mean King David lol I was talking about the cf poster David Cabrera.

Maybe an example of God using unbelievers would be the Babylonian destruction of Solomon's Temple.
So you don't consider me king? o_O
 
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Yes, it does.

In a sense, they (the demons) had to have faith too, because - presumably - they didn't possess direct knowledge of God's omniscience, omnipotence, etc.
Maybe. The fact that they seemed to think they could pull off a coup might suggest they at least underestimated their own Creator. But believing and God fearing people sin willfully all the time so underestimating and disobeying God seems the norm.
 
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Maybe. The fact that they seemed to think they could pull off a coup might suggest they at least underestimated their own Creator. But believing and God fearing people sin willfully all the time so underestimating and disobeying God seems the norm.
It's interesting to me that Satan continues to retain free access to and from heaven, in the book of Job.
 
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It's interesting to me that Satan continues to retain free access to and from heaven, in the book of Job.
And he conversed with Jesus directly in the desert. The Bible calls him the 'prince of the power of the air. '
 
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Or perhaps, to add another option, coming at a relationship with the Divine where images of Salvation is not what it's about.
This is a good point.

There's this general assumption that some kind of
salvation or atonement must be made, and various
narratives seem to be influenced by this particular notion,
but I don't think that the need for salvation/atonement is
even necessarily true.

To put it in really simple terms, life is about starting at
Point A and growing towards Point B, C, D, etc., but we
never needed "saving" from Point A and we don't need to
apologize or atone for having begun at Point A. It would
be like expecting a caterpillar to be saved from being a
caterpillar or expecting a butterfly to atone for having
been a caterpillar. No, it starts out a caterpillar and then
evolves into a butterfly; salvation and atonement had
nothing to do with it and were never meant to be a part
of the equation.

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It's interesting to me that Satan continues to retain free access to and from heaven, in the book of Job.

And he conversed with Jesus directly in the desert. The Bible calls him the 'prince of the power of the air. '
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's a member of God's staff,
or a tool in his toolbox.

Even when Judas was getting ready to betray Jesus after Satan
entered into him, Jesus spoke to him like they were collaborating
when he said "What you are about to do, do quickly" in John 13:27.
At that point, it could be said that person Jesus was speaking
to was Satan ("wearing" Judas as his disguise), rather than Judas
himself. It was a team-effort; a joint project.
 
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I didn't mean King David lol I was talking about the cf poster David Cabrera.

Maybe an example of God using unbelievers would be the Babylonian destruction of Solomon's Temple.

I did not think you were talking about anyone in particular.

It is just that the line from Psalms had been on my mind for a few days,

Thought it was an opportunity to use it.

You know,
when opportunity knocks don,t ask someone else to answer the door.
 
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I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's a member of God's staff,
or a tool in his toolbox.

Even when Judas was getting ready to betray Jesus after Satan
entered into him, Jesus spoke to him like they were collaborating
when he said "What you are about to do, do quickly" in John 13:27.
At that point, it could be said that person Jesus was speaking
to was Satan ("wearing" Judas as his disguise), rather than Judas
himself. It was a team-effort; a joint project.

He is on G-d,s payroll,
it should be "the satan" a job description.
 
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Yes and when the demons are evil to you by possessing the humans and then hurting you through them it's all just teamwork. Hahaha it all makes sense now.

For Job to lose his children, wealth, property, cattle, camels the whole works plus his health, it takes teamwork,
Would reckon.
 
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I dont know. After experiencing God like for example his presence, this is so 'high' above any other thing in this world that you could only want more of that and everything else just pales in comparison... True life/experiencie story.

I say people would trade all their life experiences from 30 years back just for a day with this. If posible. If they knew about God.
 
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Azazel is rolling in his pit of sharp stones. You let criminals out, they do criminal things. It's not hard, you just have to bring your whole gang along.

I can imagine myself a billion years in the future talking with God about how such and such only seems to worship God but don't really mean it in their heart of hearts and then making a bet with God over it.

I can see myself testing myself, accusing myself saying I'll turn myself into a mortal and suffer and be blind and stupid and I will love God in this condition.

But just as well I can see a bunch of beings trapped in a few ages where they themselves are being tested and are allowed to torment others since it would give them some use and maybe even make them see the futility of their ways.

Reality probably has so many different layers and complexity to it. There is no reason why it can't both be blind and evil spirits hurting people and God working with them. It could be that on a lower layer of reality they are demons and on a higher they are angels.
 
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Whatever he lost was replaced with double up.
That's cool. I mean, it wouldn't bother me at all if my two children died as long as I got four new ones later on.

It's fascinating that so many people read the story about Job and think it sort of ended well. Sure, he got more wives and a bigger farm or whatever. It didn't end so well for his children who were killed just so that God and the devil could make a point.
 
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That's cool. I mean, it wouldn't bother me at all if my two children died as long as I got four new ones later on.

It's fascinating that so many people read the story about Job and think it sort of ended well. Sure, he got more wives and a bigger farm or whatever. It didn't end so well for his children who were killed just so that God and the devil could make a point.

What makes you think we are entitled to anything?

Do you know how many days you have been alloted?

Many take much too much for granted.

Which day is best to repent?
(Repent meaning to return, for the soul to seek contact with it,s source)

The day before you die.

How do you know when you will die?

You don,t.
 
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Yes and when the demons are evil to you by possessing the humans and then hurting you through them it's all just teamwork. Hahaha it all makes sense now.
When God has the power to eliminate them from the get-go,
but doesn't, no other conclusion really works,
nor does any other conclusion do much to help the situation.
Obviously.

Nothing happens "to" us... it happens "for" us.
 
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That's why I think this world is a game. But I still believe there are beings who take it too seriously and so become evil because they only see from the point of view of a creature. Death is an illusion, I think that is one thing Jesus wanted to show us.
 
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Greetings, roman2819, I will have to respectfully disagree.

Rebirth on one level is indeed directly observable - my adult-self has been reborn from my child-self, and my child-self has been reborn from my infant-self, etc.

Rebirth on the other levels - the consciousness & mental continuums - are said in the early Buddhist scriptures to require achievement of the fourth jhana in meditation (where the mind disassociates from the body) before one can directly observe rebirth happening across multiple physical lifetimes. The vast majority of individuals have not achieved the fourth jhana, much less the first, and so cannot observe these things.

If God is real, then the question becomes: "What is its nature, and is it truly the highest goal in life?" Based on what I have observed about life, my answer is "no".

How do attempts at answering the question about their existence address the more fundamental question about our purpose in life?

I haven't observed any of these things for myself, therefore I consider them hearsay and unprovable.

I believe I have had prayers answered in Buddhism as well.

If some of my prayers were answered by Buddhist devas, what does that say about prayer and the Christian god?

Hi Ananda

Regarding the Bible, you were saying that "I haven't observed any of these things for myself, therefore I consider them hearsay and unprovable".

The Bible has been scrutinized by scholars and historians who wanted to examine its credibility because it claims to be the Word of God. There are 2 reasons for me to keep faith. One is personal experience with God. The other is the Bible which gives us strong reasons to believe that God exists. The Scriptures made it less subjective, so to speak. The following, adapted from the book, "Understanding Prayer Faith and God's Will" tries to demonstrate that the Bible is more than just hearsay. It can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt if people do not just say that it is unprovable.

Accurate scientific statements

The Bible is not a book of science but when it made scientific statements on several occasions, it is surprisingly accurate. For instance, the Scriptures predicted that the earth was round even before science confirmed it. “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers... [Isaiah 40:22]; the word “circle” implies that the earth is round. The prophet Isaiah said this about 700 BC , which is more than 2600 years ago. At that time, people believed that the earth was flat, or they would fall off the surface into space if it was round; back then, no one understood gravity, and sailors were afraid to reach the edge of the sea. In 340 BC, the famous Greek thinker Aristotle wrote a book, On the Heavens, where he gave reasons to support the theory that the earth was shaped like a sphere. Later, more evidence would confirm it. In the twentieth century, aerial photographs showed the earth to be round, but the Bible had said it well ahead of time.

The Bible also says the earth is suspended upon nothing. “He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing” [Job 26:7]. In those days, people had little or no clues about the universe. The Greeks believed that the earth was held in space by one of their gods, Atlas. Gradually, thinkers like Ptolemy, Copernicus and Galileo asserted that the earth, like the other planets, might be suspended upon nothing. Science would confirm this later, but not before the Bible had said it much earlier.

The Scriptures have been consistently correct on numerous occasions, and not just a couple of times. The Lord told Abraham that his descendants would be as many as the number of stars in the sky, if indeed he can count them [Genesis 15:5]. Early astronomers used to believe that they can count the stars in the sky but later, they realized that there are billions of them in the galaxies – beyond our ability to even give a close estimate.

When God created the earth, He said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear” [Genesis 1:9]. It means that at the beginning, the land mass was together. Today, there are geological evidences to substantiate this theory, as rocks and fossils of animals and plants on different continents show that they used to exist on the same land. Geologists or scientists believe that one supercontinent used to exist, which later broke up or became separated into the land masses that we see today.


“Do you send the lightning bolts on their way? Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’?” [Job 38:35]. When the Bible was written, the word “electricity” did not exist, obviously, and “lightning” referred to raw electric power from nature. Several millenniums later, scientists would be able to harness electricity for use in lighting, telephones and many other ways that we see today. Now, we are indeed using electric power to speak and send messages over telephones, radios, computers, satellites and communication equipment. In Job’s time, when lighting was provided by fire, no one would dream of using electricity, let alone run away from streaks of lightning. And the telephone was invented more than two millenniums later in 1876. Yet the Bible alluded to it well ahead of time.

Biblical Prophecies Fulfilled

The Scriptures contain prophesies about the future that have come true.....
Some prophecies are in Revelation. 2000 years ago when apostle John had a vision of war and battle scenes, he saw the kinds of weapons and technologies that would be used in the future. In his time, when soldiers fought with spears and swords, and cavalries rode horses and chariots, the apostle did not have the vocabularies to describe modern day arsenals that he never saw before. He could only compare them to locusts with wings, moving with noises like the thundering of horses and chariots rushing into battle. He also wrote that the heads of the horses resembled the heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke and sulfur [Revelation 9: 7-19]. Today, we can see that the apostle was trying to describe modern war machines. The locusts with wings were helicopters and fighter jets. The horses with lion heads that threw fire and smoke were armored vehicles and tanks. John’s vision did materialize during the twentieth century – the Bible was 2000 years ahead of time.

Bible is supported by History

When historians, archaeologists and scientists conduct extensive research, they use cross references to determine the authenticity of the writings. Many biblical accounts have been found to be agreeable with history, such as the existence of ancient Israel, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Roman Empire. The existence of Nebuchadnezzar, Darius, Artaxerxes, Herod and Pilate can be independently confirmed from other historical annals. Other archaeological discoveries substantiate accounts which are mentioned in the Bible, such as the invasion of ancient Israel by Babylonians and Persians. When Judea was under the control of the Roman Empire, the authorities regarded it as a difficult place to govern because the Jews resented foreign rule. In 66 AD, there was a revolt against the Roman authorities, who were forced to withdraw from Jerusalem because the fighting was fierce. The skirmishes continued until 70 AD when the Romans took back the city and crushed the resistance. Such events were found in historical records.

Some people assert that if the Bible is God’s Word, then there should be no mistakes at all. Should we apply such a standard towards the Scriptures? When scientists, mathematicians, scholars and historians conduct experiments for verification, they do not insist that the results must be totally free from mistakes. Some kinds of technical variations are accepted within certain margin of error. It does not mean that should absolutely be no glitches in God’s Word. Somewhere in the Old Testament, for example, a few numbers may not be absolutely accurate. When the manuscripts were copied by hand, a few variations could happen, such as the use of different words which have the same meaning or connotation. However, when experts scrutinized the Bible, such occurrences were acceptable. If there were too many flaws or mismatch with other historical findings, then it would have been exposed as a falsified piece of work. Instead, until today, it continues to endure the test of time.


Dead Sea Scrolls

In 1947, in the Mediterranean area, an Arab youth, Muhammad, accidentally stumbled upon the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were hidden in jars in a cave. The parchments, which were written mainly in Hebrew (with some parts in Aramaic), might have belonged to one of the Jewish religious sects or a community of people who lived during biblical times. It is possible that they could have hidden the scrolls from the Romans who came to crush the Jewish revolt circa 70 AD.

It was a phenomenal discovery, not only for Christians but also for historians, archaeologists, and scholars. The Dead Sea Scrolls were the manuscripts of the Hebrew Scriptures, without the Book of Esther. They were believed to have been written by the Jews who, after returning to Judah from exile (circa 400 BC), continued to keep records of their history, beliefs and traditions. This was an era commonly referred to as the Second Temple Period.

The greatest significance is that the Scrolls represent a close resemblance to the “original” Hebrew Old Testament (the Tanakh), which consists of the Pentateuch, History, Prophets and Poetry. At this point, it is appropriate to mention the existence of Jewish scribes, known as the Masoretes, from about 500 AD to 900 AD. They were entrusted with copying, editing and distribution of the Old Testament – a sacred and serious vocation that was held in high regards, which entailed the washing of hands before they started to write, for instance. They developed a system of counting the number of words in each book in order to ensure that every word was copied. Even if one error was spotted, the entire manuscript would be discarded by burying, in accordance with Jewish customs. They also introduced vowels into the Hebrew words, which only contained consonants originally.

When Masoretes Texts were compared to Dead Sea Scrolls, the very minute variations being found were confined to change of spellings over time or use of different synonyms in various manuscripts. This means that they were copied very meticulously and accurately, which was important, in view of the fact that they had been used as a basis for translations. The Dead Sea Scrolls helped to confirm that the Hebrew Scripture translations, which had been transmitted to us, had real roots in ancient historical sources that could be traced back to the Jews and ancient Israel. They also allowed academic scholars to compare various translations of the Bible, and gain understanding of certain ambiguous words, such as those with dual meanings. Other parchments discovered in the cave provided an insider’s view of the ancient Jewish society, their culture and beliefs, including the existence of religious sects and rabbi that were first formed during the Second Temple Period.

The Dead Sea Scrolls were believed to have been written 1000 years before the Ben Asher Codex, a Masoretic Text, which was the oldest known copy of the Old Testament before 1947. For the New Testament, manuscripts that were found included Codex Alexandrinus (dating back to 400 AD), Codex Sinaiticus (350 AD), and Codex Vaticanus. In the 1900s, more than a hundred manuscripts were found in Egypt.


The Roman Calendar

Could Abraham Lincoln or Napoleon be cleverly fabricated myths that somehow became accepted as the truths? Could historical records attribute the Great Wall of China to the work of a fictitious emperor? Surely these people were not just stories or folklores. Likewise, our calendar today, dated according to the birth of Jesus, indicates that He once lived on earth.

The Roman Empire persecuted Christians for about three hundred years. In 312 AD, however, the emperor Constantine converted to Christianity. Just before a decisive battle with his arch enemy, Maxentius (who was a co-ruler of the empire), Constantine had a dream, where God told him that under the cross, he would have victory, upon which he ordered that the sign of the cross be painted on his soldiers’ shields. His army prevailed, he believed, and passed a decree to stop all persecutions against the church, and also declared Christianity to be the official religion of the empire.

Later, the existing Roman calendar at that time was modified to be marked according to the year that Jesus was born, which became 1 A.D. Anno Domino means “the year of the Lord”. The years before His birth were marked BC (Before Christ).
 
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I can't remember what I had for lunch last Tuesday, but that
doesn't mean I didn't have lunch at all.

"Before you were born, I knew you". (Jeremiah 1:5) Even the
bible seems to support the idea that there was a "you" in
existence, and able to be known, apart from any physical
incarnation that "you" might have. Of course many will deny
that this is what the verse is talking about, but the same can
be said for any verse in the bible, because all of them can be
interpreted and re-interpreted six ways to Sunday depending
on who one's favorite pastor or bible-commentator happens
to be.

The inability to remember past lives isn't necessarily an
indicator that they never happened. I don't remember
meeting God, either, but I wouldn't disbelieve in His
existence because of that.

The lack of past life memory recall helps to compartmentalize
things a bit. There's enough going on in one's current life
without having one's mind filled up with people and events
from heaven only knows how many other past lives.

There are cases where people do remember their past lives,
especially very young children who know details about a
previous life that they really shouldn't be able to know
otherwise.

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Hi Rayjeena

You seem to say that "Before you were born, I knew you" (Jeremiah 1:5) seems to support the idea that there was a "you" in existence, and able to be known, apart from any physical incarnation that "you" might have. You do recognize that many will disagree.

Well the Bible refute anything about rebirth in Hebrews 9:27: Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment.

When I speak to Buddhists in Singapore, they use this analogy: Just because we cannot remember our childhood does not mean we were not children before. At first it seem credible. But there are other ways to prove that we were children before.such as birth certificates and photographs. Even if we cannot remember whether we have lunch yesterday, there are ways to find out if we try.. But of course, if you are asked to demonstrate whether you have lunch 16 years ago on 7 August (example), then it be pretty tough.

However, we know that personal religious beliefs cannot be changed from using simple analogies. For me why do I believe and continue to keep faith? One is personal experience with God. The other reason is the Bible, which provides sufficient proof that it is the Word of God. If one makes an effort to examine its validity, instead of just saying that it is just a book, there are sufficient evidence. The Bible has been scrutinized by scholars and historians who wanted to examine its credibility because it claims to be the Word of God. The following, adapted from the book, "Understanding Prayer Faith and God's Will" tries to demonstrate that the Bible is more than just hearsay.

Accurate scientific statements

The Bible is not a book of science but when it made scientific statements on several occasions, it is surprisingly accurate. For instance, the Scriptures predicted that the earth was round even before science confirmed it. “He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers... [Isaiah 40:22]; the word “circle” implies that the earth is round. The prophet Isaiah said this about 700 BC , which is more than 2600 years ago. At that time, people believed that the earth was flat, or they would fall off the surface into space if it was round; back then, no one understood gravity, and sailors were afraid to reach the edge of the sea. In 340 BC, the famous Greek thinker Aristotle wrote a book, On the Heavens, where he gave reasons to support the theory that the earth was shaped like a sphere. Later, more evidence would confirm it. In the twentieth century, aerial photographs showed the earth to be round, but the Bible had said it well ahead of time.

The Bible also says the earth is suspended upon nothing. “He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing” [Job 26:7]. In those days, people had little or no clues about the universe. The Greeks believed that the earth was held in space by one of their gods, Atlas. Gradually, thinkers like Ptolemy, Copernicus and Galileo asserted that the earth, like the other planets, might be suspended upon nothing. Science would confirm this later, but not before the Bible had said it much earlier.

The Scriptures have been consistently correct on numerous occasions, and not just a couple of times. The Lord told Abraham that his descendants would be as many as the number of stars in the sky, if indeed he can count them [Genesis 15:5]. Early astronomers used to believe that they can count the stars in the sky but later, they realized that there are billions of them in the galaxies – beyond our ability to even give a close estimate.

When God created the earth, He said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear” [Genesis 1:9]. It means that at the beginning, the land mass was together. Today, there are geological evidences to substantiate this theory, as rocks and fossils of animals and plants on different continents show that they used to exist on the same land. Geologists or scientists believe that one supercontinent used to exist, which later broke up or became separated into the land masses that we see today.


“Do you send the lightning bolts on their way? Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’?” [Job 38:35]. When the Bible was written, the word “electricity” did not exist, obviously, and “lightning” referred to raw electric power from nature. Several millenniums later, scientists would be able to harness electricity for use in lighting, telephones and many other ways that we see today. Now, we are indeed using electric power to speak and send messages over telephones, radios, computers, satellites and communication equipment. In Job’s time, when lighting was provided by fire, no one would dream of using electricity, let alone run away from streaks of lightning. And the telephone was invented more than two millenniums later in 1876. Yet the Bible alluded to it well ahead of time.

Biblical Prophecies Fulfilled

The Scriptures contain prophesies about the future that have come true.....
Some prophecies are in Revelation. 2000 years ago when apostle John had a vision of war and battle scenes, he saw the kinds of weapons and technologies that would be used in the future. In his time, when soldiers fought with spears and swords, and cavalries rode horses and chariots, the apostle did not have the vocabularies to describe modern day arsenals that he never saw before. He could only compare them to locusts with wings, moving with noises like the thundering of horses and chariots rushing into battle. He also wrote that the heads of the horses resembled the heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke and sulfur [Revelation 9: 7-19]. Today, we can see that the apostle was trying to describe modern war machines. The locusts with wings were helicopters and fighter jets. The horses with lion heads that threw fire and smoke were armored vehicles and tanks. John’s vision did materialize during the twentieth century – the Bible was 2000 years ahead of time.

Bible is supported by History

When historians, archaeologists and scientists conduct extensive research, they use cross references to determine the authenticity of the writings. Many biblical accounts have been found to be agreeable with history, such as the existence of ancient Israel, Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Roman Empire. The existence of Nebuchadnezzar, Darius, Artaxerxes, Herod and Pilate can be independently confirmed from other historical annals. Other archaeological discoveries substantiate accounts which are mentioned in the Bible, such as the invasion of ancient Israel by Babylonians and Persians. When Judea was under the control of the Roman Empire, the authorities regarded it as a difficult place to govern because the Jews resented foreign rule. In 66 AD, there was a revolt against the Roman authorities, who were forced to withdraw from Jerusalem because the fighting was fierce. The skirmishes continued until 70 AD when the Romans took back the city and crushed the resistance. Such events were found in historical records.

Some people assert that if the Bible is God’s Word, then there should be no mistakes at all. Should we apply such a standard towards the Scriptures? When scientists, mathematicians, scholars and historians conduct experiments for verification, they do not insist that the results must be totally free from mistakes. Some kinds of technical variations are accepted within certain margin of error. It does not mean that should absolutely be no glitches in God’s Word. Somewhere in the Old Testament, for example, a few numbers may not be absolutely accurate. When the manuscripts were copied by hand, a few variations could happen, such as the use of different words which have the same meaning or connotation. However, when experts scrutinized the Bible, such occurrences were acceptable. If there were too many flaws or mismatch with other historical findings, then it would have been exposed as a falsified piece of work. Instead, until today, it continues to endure the test of time.


Dead Sea Scrolls

In 1947, in the Mediterranean area, an Arab youth, Muhammad, accidentally stumbled upon the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were hidden in jars in a cave. The parchments, which were written mainly in Hebrew (with some parts in Aramaic), might have belonged to one of the Jewish religious sects or a community of people who lived during biblical times. It is possible that they could have hidden the scrolls from the Romans who came to crush the Jewish revolt circa 70 AD.

It was a phenomenal discovery, not only for Christians but also for historians, archaeologists, and scholars. The Dead Sea Scrolls were the manuscripts of the Hebrew Scriptures, without the Book of Esther. They were believed to have been written by the Jews who, after returning to Judah from exile (circa 400 BC), continued to keep records of their history, beliefs and traditions. This was an era commonly referred to as the Second Temple Period.

The greatest significance is that the Scrolls represent a close resemblance to the “original” Hebrew Old Testament (the Tanakh), which consists of the Pentateuch, History, Prophets and Poetry. At this point, it is appropriate to mention the existence of Jewish scribes, known as the Masoretes, from about 500 AD to 900 AD. They were entrusted with copying, editing and distribution of the Old Testament – a sacred and serious vocation that was held in high regards, which entailed the washing of hands before they started to write, for instance. They developed a system of counting the number of words in each book in order to ensure that every word was copied. Even if one error was spotted, the entire manuscript would be discarded by burying, in accordance with Jewish customs. They also introduced vowels into the Hebrew words, which only contained consonants originally.

When Masoretes Texts were compared to Dead Sea Scrolls, the very minute variations being found were confined to change of spellings over time or use of different synonyms in various manuscripts. This means that they were copied very meticulously and accurately, which was important, in view of the fact that they had been used as a basis for translations. The Dead Sea Scrolls helped to confirm that the Hebrew Scripture translations, which had been transmitted to us, had real roots in ancient historical sources that could be traced back to the Jews and ancient Israel. They also allowed academic scholars to compare various translations of the Bible, and gain understanding of certain ambiguous words, such as those with dual meanings. Other parchments discovered in the cave provided an insider’s view of the ancient Jewish society, their culture and beliefs, including the existence of religious sects and rabbi that were first formed during the Second Temple Period.

The Dead Sea Scrolls were believed to have been written 1000 years before the Ben Asher Codex, a Masoretic Text, which was the oldest known copy of the Old Testament before 1947. For the New Testament, manuscripts that were found included Codex Alexandrinus (dating back to 400 AD), Codex Sinaiticus (350 AD), and Codex Vaticanus. In the 1900s, more than a hundred manuscripts were found in Egypt.


The Roman Calendar

Could Abraham Lincoln or Napoleon be cleverly fabricated myths that somehow became accepted as the truths? Could historical records attribute the Great Wall of China to the work of a fictitious emperor? Surely these people were not just stories or folklores. Likewise, our calendar today, dated according to the birth of Jesus, indicates that He once lived on earth.

The Roman Empire persecuted Christians for about three hundred years. In 312 AD, however, the emperor Constantine converted to Christianity. Just before a decisive battle with his arch enemy, Maxentius (who was a co-ruler of the empire), Constantine had a dream, where God told him that under the cross, he would have victory, upon which he ordered that the sign of the cross be painted on his soldiers’ shields. His army prevailed, he believed, and passed a decree to stop all persecutions against the church, and also declared Christianity to be the official religion of the empire.

Later, the existing Roman calendar at that time was modified to be marked according to the year that Jesus was born, which became 1 A.D. Anno Domino means “the year of the Lord”. The years before His birth were marked BC (Before Christ).

There are more than these, but the abovementioned are some pointers.
 
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