LDS How to Become a God

Pedra said:

Not according to the Bible which is the ONLY source of scripture--period. People cannot just add their own fables and call their own outrageous writings "Holy scripture" and that is exactly what the deceiver JS did. He was a con-man like L. Ron Hubbard who founded Scientology.

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The Book of Mormon is not a fable nor was it written by Joseph Smith. The Book of Mormon is a miraculous work of God. This is from the Book of Mormon:
(Book of Mormon | Moroni 7:12 - 25)

12 Wherefore, all things which are good cometh of God; and that which is evil cometh of the devil; for the devil is an enemy unto God, and fighteth against him continually, and inviteth and enticeth to sin, and to do that which is evil continually.
13 But behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good continually; wherefore, every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love God, and to serve him, is inspired of God.
14 Wherefore, take heed, my beloved brethren, that ye do not judge that which is evil to be of God, or that which is good and of God to be of the devil.
15 For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.
16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.
17 But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; neither do they who subject themselves unto him.
18 And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the light by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.
19 Wherefore, I beseech of you, brethren, that ye should search diligently in the light of Christ that ye may know good from evil; and if ye will lay hold upon every good thing, and condemn it not, ye certainly will be a child of Christ.
20 And now, my brethren, how is it possible that ye can lay hold upon every good thing?
21 And now I come to that faith, of which I said I would speak; and I will tell you the way whereby ye may lay hold on every good thing.
22 For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting, behold, he sent angels to minister unto the children of men, to make manifest concerning the coming of Christ; and in Christ there should come every good thing.
23 And God also declared unto prophets, by his own mouth, that Christ should come.
24 And behold, there were divers ways that he did manifest things unto the children of men, which were good; and all things which are good cometh of Christ; otherwise men were fallen, and there could no good thing come unto them.
25 Wherefore, by the ministering of angels, and by every word which proceeded forth out of the mouth of God, men began to exercise faith in Christ; and thus by faith, they did lay hold upon every good thing; and thus it was until the coming of Christ.

He is the way said:

So you are saying that Satan can fool God?

(Old Testament | Job 1:6)

6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

(Old Testament | Job 2:1)

1 AGAIN there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

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What are you talking about?? What has this got to do with the fact that Jesus created everything and that includes Lucifer. God is the Father of all, but Jesus is not brother to all. He is brother to us through His humanity, of which the angels are not. Though Jesus created everything, He did it through the Holy Spirit and God the Father was present also. And by the way---it says the sons of God presented themselves before the Lord. It doesn't read---the sons of God presented themselves before Him.

He is the way said:

So you are saying that Satan can fool God?

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mmksparbud↑
Had said --"Yah--we know what it says. Jesus created Lucifer. They are not brothers."
But You ignored his words and attempted accuse him of saying something he did not say.
Why is it that you consistently ignore the answers given you and but instead you misrepresent others points to you, like you did above?....doing this by completely twisting the meaning of his words?
This seems to be a pattern used your religious master Joseph Smith. That is who you are following, btw, not Jesus. You are following the "way of Joseph Smith" alias false prophet, conman, polygamist--don't kid yourself because your soul's eternal existence is in jeopardy. Don't be under self-delusion because you are not following Jesus, because the only Jesus there is is the one revealed in the pages of the Bible, not the false Christ fabled in LDS.

He is the way said:

The Book of Mormon is not a fable nor was it written by Joseph Smith. The Book of Mormon is a miraculous work of God. This is from the Book of Mormon:
(Book of Mormon | Moroni 7:12 - 25)

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As Paul once said.....'O foolish <galatians>....WHO hath bewitched you???

mmksparbud said:

Yah--I know--they also believe Jesus is brother to Satan instead of His creator.
They refuse to acknowledge the fact the John 1:1-3 states Jesus created everything. They don't think everything means everything!
They can't acknowledge it for it makes JS a liar.

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Exactly!!

mmksparbud said:

What are you talking about?? What has this got to do with the fact that Jesus created everything and that includes Lucifer. God is the Father of all, but Jesus is not brother to all. He is brother to us through His humanity, of which the angels are not. Though Jesus created everything, He did it through the Holy Spirit and God the Father was present also. And by the way---it says the sons of God presented themselves before the Lord. It doesn't read---the sons of God presented themselves before Him.

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God the Father is the Father of our spirits:
(New Testament | Hebrews 12:9 - 10)

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

(New Testament | Matthew 23:9)

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Satan is indeed a son of God as is Jesus Christ. I do not doubt that the Bible is correct about this.

Pedra said:

Exactly!!

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Joseph Smith did not lie about the Book of Mormon and the Bible does not say he is a false prophet. Your assumptions do not make it so.

He is the way said:

Satan is indeed a son of God as is Jesus Christ. I do not doubt that the Bible is correct about this.

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That is a Lds False Teaching.
Jesus is GOD incarnate.
Satan was once called Lucifer and was an archangel that was created BY GOD.
Therefore Jesus and Satan are Not "brothers".

Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Question: "Are Jesus and Satan brothers?"

Answer: No, Jesus and Satan are not brothers. Jesus is God, and Satan is one of His creations. Not only are Jesus and Satan not brothers, they are as different as night is from day. Jesus is God incarnate—eternal, all-knowing, and all-powerful, while Satan is a fallen angel that was created by God for God’s purposes. The teaching that Jesus and Satan are “spirit brothers” is one of the many false teachings of the Mormons (Latter-Day Saints) and, to some degree, also the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Both of these groups are properly labeled as cults because they deny essential Christian doctrine. While they use Christian terms such as Jesus, God, and salvation, they have heretical views and teachings on the most basic and essential Christian doctrines. (Please note that most Mormons today will vehemently deny that they believe Jesus and Satan are brothers. However, this teaching was most definitely a belief of the early Mormons.)

The teaching that Jesus and Satan are “spirit brothers” is born out of the Mormons’ misunderstanding and distortion of Scripture as well as some of the extra-biblical teachings they consider to be authoritative. Simply put, there is no way you can read the Bible using any type of sound hermeneutical principles and come away with the idea that Jesus and Satan are “spiritual brothers.” The Scriptures are very clear that Jesus is fully God, not some type of lesser god as the Mormons and other cults believe. The Scriptures are also very clear that God is transcendent above His creation, which simply means that there is no comparison between Christ the Creator and Satan His creation.

Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was the first “spirit child” born to God the Heavenly Father with one of his many wives. Instead of acknowledging Jesus as the one true God, they believe He became God, just as they will one day become gods. According to Mormon doctrine, as the first of the “spirit children” of God, Jesus had preeminence over Satan or Lucifer, who was the second “son of God” and the “spirit brother” of Jesus. It is ironic that they will use Colossians 1:15 as one of their “proof texts,” because it says that “[Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.” Yet they ignore verse 16, where we see that “By [Christ] all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth. Visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. ALL THINGS were created through Him and for Him.” All things—thrones, dominions, principalities, or powers—includes Satan and his demons.

In order to believe that Satan and Jesus are “spiritual brothers,” one must deny the clear teaching of Scripture. Scripture says that it was Jesus Christ who created all things and that, as the second Person of the triune Godhead, Christ is fully and uniquely God. Jesus claimed to be God in many passages of Scripture. In John 10:30 Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.” Jesus was not claiming to be another, lesser god. He was declaring that He was fully God. In John 1:1–5 it is clear that Jesus was not a created being and that He Himself created all things. “All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made” (John 1:3). How much clearer can it get? “All things” means what it says, and it includes Satan, who as an angel was himself a created being just like the other angels and demons are. Scripture reveals Satan to be a fallen angel who rebelled against God and Jesus to be God. The only relationship that exists between Satan and Jesus is that of creation and Creator; of the sinful created being, Satan, and the righteous Judge, Jesus Christ.

Like the Mormons, the Jehovah’s Witnesses also teach that Jesus and Satan are spiritual brothers. While some Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses might sometimes try to sidestep this teaching because it is so antithetical to what the Bible actually says, it is nevertheless what these organizations believe and is part of their official doctrine.

Mormons believe that, not only were Jesus and Lucifer “spirit children of Elohim,” but that humans are spiritual children, as well. In other words, they believe that “God, angels, and men are all of the same species, one race, one great family.” This is why they believe that they themselves will one day become as much of a god as Jesus or even God the Father. Rather than seeing the clear distinction in Scripture between God and His creation, they believe that one day they will be a gods themselves. Of course, this is the same old lie Satan has been telling us since the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:15). Apparently, the desire to usurp the throne of God is endemic in the hearts of men.

In Matthew 16:15 Jesus asked the important question: “But who do you say that I am?” This is a question that is essential to salvation and one that the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses get wrong. Their answer that Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan is the wrong one. Jesus is God the Son, and in Him the fullness of the Godhead dwelt bodily (Colossians 2:9). He created Satan, and one day He will cast Satan into the lake of fire as the just punishment for his rebellion against God. Sadly, on that Day of Judgment those who fall for Satan’s lies will also be cast into the lake of fire with Satan and His demons. The god of the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses is not the God who revealed Himself in Scripture. Unless these groups repent and come to understand and worship the one true God, they have no hope of salvation.

Recommended Resource: Reasoning from the Scriptures with Mormons by Ron Rhodes

Pedra said:

Jesus is the Christ and our Master, He is NOT our brother. Jesus is our Lord and Savior, Jesus is God. The believers are brothers & sisters in Christ.

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I agree he is our Master, and I love him, and I follow his teachings, and I want to be like him.
He is our Lord and Savior, Jesus is God.

Having said that, it is interesting even though he is our Master and Savior and God, we will also be 'joint' heirs with Jesus of all that his and our Father has:
Romans 8:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

And this scripture also says that we will be glorified together with Jesus. How is that possible? Tell me how is that possible to be glorified with the same glory as Jesus will be glorified. How is that possible?

Having said that, how is it possible for us mere mortals to do even greater works than our Master and Savior and God did? How is that possible? But yet that is what our Master and Savior and God said:
John 14:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Do you believe the bible when it says that you, as a believer can do greater works than Jesus?
I don't think you do?

Having said that, do you believe the bible when it says that Jesus's Father is the same Father as our Father?
John 20:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and
to my God, and your God.

You do understand the ramifications here?
Here is the first one: If Jesus's Father is really our Father also, then you and I are absolutely brothers with Jesus, our Master and Savior and God.

Here is the second one: If Jesus's Father is really our Father also, then Jesus and you and I are truly children of the Most High God, who has to be different than Jesus, who is His only "begotten" Son *in the flesh* - remember the scripture that takes away from the bible the word "begotten", this is the ramification of that error, you do not recognize who the real Jesus really is.)

Here is the third one: Jesus has the same God as you and I do? How is that possible? Well I can believe that because the bible says:
Jesus prayed to his God.
Jesus was sent from heaven by his God.
Jesus ascended to his God.
Jesus sits on the right hand of his God in heaven today.

Jesus's God is the same God that you and I worship, per Jesus himself (John 20:17)

So I believe that Jesus is our brother, the bible supports that belief. I also believe Jesus, as a spirit child of God the Father, understood the will of the Father and hated iniquity and loved righteousness, and therefore achieved Godhood and was called God by his God, who gave Jesus a special annointing above you and I, his fellow brothers.
Psalm 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God(Jesus), thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (my parenthesis)

So I have no problem with Jesus being our Master, our Savior and God, but he is not God the Father, he is the only "begotten" Son in the flesh, of his Father and our Father.

Jesus showed us the way to Godhead and as I have demonstrated from bible, we can also be just like him in all ways, eventually. He figured it out early and actually became a God to us, to show us the way to become Gods ourselves. It is not all lies, you just have to believe the bible.

He is the way said:

Joseph Smith did not lie about the Book of Mormon and the Bible does not say he is a false prophet. Your assumptions do not make it so.

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You have no knowledge or understanding of Bible scripture, Christian theology, or doctrines apart from Mormonism because you are only a follower of Js and Brigham Young & only know from that.
I make no assumptions. I study the Bible scriptures, I am a born again Christian. I have also seen the false writings of the Lds religion.
God opened my eyes yrs ago, to the spiritual truth that the Bible is Only His Word & I am a convicted, repentant sinner who had their sins washed away & my sin debt paid for by the Only begotten Son of God, beloved Lord & Savior Jesus Christ who took my place when He was crucified & died on the cross & rose again on the third day and ascended into heaven and sits on the right-hand of the throne of GOD. I have been born again from above & given a new Spirit & new life in Christ by God's merciful grace through the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ available as a free gift for all who would have faith in Jesus Christ's victory on Calvary to pay for their sins.
What is the gospel of Jesus Christ?
Question: "What is the gospel of Jesus Christ?"

Answer: The word gospel means “good news,” so the gospel of Christ is the good news of His coming to provide forgiveness of sins for all who will believe (Colossians 1:14; Romans 10:9). Since the first man’s sin, mankind has been under the condemnation of God (Romans 5:12). Because everyone breaks God’s perfect law by committing sin (Romans 3:23), everyone is guilty (Romans 5:18). The punishment for the crime of sin is physical death (Romans 6:23) and then an eternity spent in a place of punishment (Revelation 20:15; Matthew 25:46). This eternal separation from God is also called the “second death” (Revelation 20:14–15).

The bad news that all are guilty of sin and condemned by God is countered by the gospel, the good news of Jesus Christ. God, because of His love for the world, has made a way for man to be forgiven of their sins (John 3:16). He sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to take the sins of mankind on Himself through death on a cross (1 Peter 2:24). In placing our sin on Christ, God ensured that all who will believe in the name of Jesus will be forgiven (Acts 10:43). Jesus’ resurrection guarantees the justification of all who believe (Romans 4:25).

The Bible specifies the content of the gospel message: “Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time” (1 Corinthians 15:1–6). In this passage, Paul emphasizes the primacy of the gospel—it is of “first importance.” The gospel message contains two historical facts, both supported by Scripture: Christ’s death and His resurrection. Both those facts are bolstered by other proofs: Christ’s death is proved by His burial, and His resurrection is proved by the eyewitnesses.

The gospel of Jesus Christ is the good news that God provided the way for man to be freed from the penalty of sin (John 14:6; Romans 6:23). But not all people will be saved from hell; only those who place their faith in Jesus will go to heaven when they die (Acts 4:12).

The gospel of Jesus Christ is the best news anyone will ever hear, and what a person does with this news will determine where he or she spends eternity. God is calling you to choose life. Call on the name of the Lord and be saved (Romans 10:13).

Recommended Resource: What Is the Gospel? by Greg Gilbert

mmksparbud said:

No, before He was one with God of the same spirit---be became flesh in order to save us---not Himself!! He lowered Himself lower than the angels in order to save us. Yet JS wants to lower Him even further by saying that Jesus did not really come to save us--but to save Himself!!

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Where do you come up with the silly idea that JS said Jesus did not really come to save us, but to save Himself!! (and you scream it).

This idea is not what we believe so please stop saying it.

Peter1000 said:

I also believe Jesus, as a spirit child of God the Father, understood the will of the Father and hated iniquity and loved righteousness, and therefore achieved Godhood and was called God by his God, who gave Jesus a special annointing above you and I, his fellow brothers.

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This is your self-delusion and the deception of Satan who is the father of lies and the one who inspires the counterfeits to Christianity such as Mormonism.
Btw--Jesus is not a spirit child of God!
Jesus is eternal, Jesus is God.
Sorry but the frank truth is required here, that according to the Bible scripture , no you and I are not brethren, you are deceived belonging to the Lds false religion started by your false prophet, fornicator and polygamist Joseph Smith less then 200 yrs ago.
If you are a Mormon, you are not a believer in Jesus Christ of the Bible , because being a Mormon means to follow LDS False teachings which mix the Bible scripture with the added CRAZY FALSE TEACHINGS written by False Prophets Joseph Smith and Brigham Young which twists the meaning of the Bible.
LDS misrepresents itself as "Christian" it is not, and mormons do not understand the Bible scripture & misrepresent Christian teachings constantly.
When you do that you are believing the false prophets lies, his TALL TALES and you are in darkness, not in light, according to Bible scripture, a mormon is not a child of God but a child of rebellion.
The Bible is clear that only the Bible is the infallible, Word of God and only born again believers are children of God, through Jesus Christ according to scriptures.
You however believe in ANOTHER Jesus.

Peter1000 said:

I agree he is our Master, and I love him, and I follow his teachings, and I want to be like him.
He is our Lord and Savior, Jesus is God.

Having said that, it is interesting even though he is our Master and Savior and God, we will also be 'joint' heirs with Jesus of all that his and our Father has:
Romans 8:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

And this scripture also says that we will be glorified together with Jesus. How is that possible? Tell me how is that possible to be glorified with the same glory as Jesus will be glorified. How is that possible?

Having said that, how is it possible for us mere mortals to do even greater works than our Master and Savior and God did? How is that possible? But yet that is what our Master and Savior and God said:
John 14:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Do you believe the bible when it says that you, as a believer can do greater works than Jesus?
I don't think you do?

Having said that, do you believe the bible when it says that Jesus's Father is the same Father as our Father?
John 20:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and
to my God, and your God.

You do understand the ramifications here?
Here is the first one: If Jesus's Father is really our Father also, then you and I are absolutely brothers with Jesus, our Master and Savior and God.

Here is the second one: If Jesus's Father is really our Father also, then Jesus and you and I are truly children of the Most High God, who has to be different than Jesus, who is His only "begotten" Son *in the flesh* - remember the scripture that takes away from the bible the word "begotten", this is the ramification of that error, you do not recognize who the real Jesus really is.)

Here is the third one: Jesus has the same God as you and I do? How is that possible? Well I can believe that because the bible says:
Jesus prayed to his God.
Jesus was sent from heaven by his God.
Jesus ascended to his God.
Jesus sits on the right hand of his God in heaven today.

Jesus's God is the same God that you and I worship, per Jesus himself (John 20:17)

So I believe that Jesus is our brother, the bible supports that belief. I also believe Jesus, as a spirit child of God the Father, understood the will of the Father and hated iniquity and loved righteousness, and therefore achieved Godhood and was called God by his God, who gave Jesus a special annointing above you and I, his fellow brothers.
Psalm 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God(Jesus), thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (my parenthesis)

So I have no problem with Jesus being our Master, our Savior and God, but he is not God the Father, he is the only "begotten" Son in the flesh, of his Father and our Father.

Jesus showed us the way to Godhead and as I have demonstrated from bible, we can also be just like him in all ways, eventually. He figured it out early and actually became a God to us, to show us the way to become Gods ourselves. It is not all lies, you just have to believe the bible.

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Jesus is God. He was God before the incarnation, during the incarnation and after. He became human, not to save Himself and become God, He became human to save us! You guys truly do not comprehend the great price He paid for us. The angels are not divine, they are not God. So though they, too, are God's children by reason of being created, we are not brothers to the angels, either. We are brothers to Christ in His humanity only. He keeps that humanity, though now glorified, as we will have glorified bodies also, like His. However, He is still divine, and God and we are not and never will be. We do not have the brains to truly comprehend every aspect of this yet. And we do not need to. We take it on faith and not on the false say so of false prophets and teachers with delusions of grandeur!
Reality check: We are all children of God! We are not all brothers! Angels are not human, Lucifer is not human. Jesus is brother to no angel, nor any other created being!! He is the Creator. He is our brother only through His humanity that He shares with us---but we do not share in His divinity! When you get that, you will start to comprehend the reality of who and what you are. Mortal humans, who never existed before, and who will be given immortality as a gift from God, not a right of birth! There are Christians who believe in the immortality of the soul---I do not and the bible does not teach it. Satan and all who follow him will end up in the lake of fire and burn till there is nothing left of them and then all sin and all sinners will be gone and there will be no more tears, pain, nor sorrow. As long as there is a sinner burning there is sin and pain, tears and sorrow. Quite trying to bring God down to some level that you feel comfortable enough to treat like a buddy you can shake hands with! That is strictly JS baloney!
You guys just do not get it.

Peter1000 said:

Where do you come up with the silly idea that JS said Jesus did not really come to save us, but to save Himself!! (and you scream it).

This idea is not what we believe so please stop saying it.

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There you go again---denying the reality of what you actually teach. Jesus had to become human as all you so called spirit childdren have to become human in order to learn obedience to God and it is through His compliance to the will of God that you teach He became perfected and became God. So I am not making it up. Stripped of it "Christianese"---you actually are saying that Jesus came really to save Himself--we're just a by product of that, we are His compliance to the will of God!

Pedra said:

That is a Lds False Teaching.
Jesus is GOD incarnate.
Satan was once called Lucifer and was an archangel that was created BY GOD.
Therefore Jesus and Satan are Not "brothers".

Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Question: "Are Jesus and Satan brothers?"

Answer: No, Jesus and Satan are not brothers. Jesus is God, and Satan is one of His creations. Not only are Jesus and Satan not brothers, they are as different as night is from day. Jesus is God incarnate—eternal, all-knowing, and all-powerful, while Satan is a fallen angel that was created by God for God’s purposes. The teaching that Jesus and Satan are “spirit brothers” is one of the many false teachings of the Mormons (Latter-Day Saints) and, to some degree, also the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Both of these groups are properly labeled as cults because they deny essential Christian doctrine. While they use Christian terms such as Jesus, God, and salvation, they have heretical views and teachings on the most basic and essential Christian doctrines. (Please note that most Mormons today will vehemently deny that they believe Jesus and Satan are brothers. However, this teaching was most definitely a belief of the early Mormons.)

The teaching that Jesus and Satan are “spirit brothers” is born out of the Mormons’ misunderstanding and distortion of Scripture as well as some of the extra-biblical teachings they consider to be authoritative. Simply put, there is no way you can read the Bible using any type of sound hermeneutical principles and come away with the idea that Jesus and Satan are “spiritual brothers.” The Scriptures are very clear that Jesus is fully God, not some type of lesser god as the Mormons and other cults believe. The Scriptures are also very clear that God is transcendent above His creation, which simply means that there is no comparison between Christ the Creator and Satan His creation.

Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was the first “spirit child” born to God the Heavenly Father with one of his many wives. Instead of acknowledging Jesus as the one true God, they believe He became God, just as they will one day become gods. According to Mormon doctrine, as the first of the “spirit children” of God, Jesus had preeminence over Satan or Lucifer, who was the second “son of God” and the “spirit brother” of Jesus. It is ironic that they will use Colossians 1:15 as one of their “proof texts,” because it says that “[Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.” Yet they ignore verse 16, where we see that “By [Christ] all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth. Visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. ALL THINGS were created through Him and for Him.” All things—thrones, dominions, principalities, or powers—includes Satan and his demons.

In order to believe that Satan and Jesus are “spiritual brothers,” one must deny the clear teaching of Scripture. Scripture says that it was Jesus Christ who created all things and that, as the second Person of the triune Godhead, Christ is fully and uniquely God. Jesus claimed to be God in many passages of Scripture. In John 10:30 Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.” Jesus was not claiming to be another, lesser god. He was declaring that He was fully God. In John 1:1–5 it is clear that Jesus was not a created being and that He Himself created all things. “All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made” (John 1:3). How much clearer can it get? “All things” means what it says, and it includes Satan, who as an angel was himself a created being just like the other angels and demons are. Scripture reveals Satan to be a fallen angel who rebelled against God and Jesus to be God. The only relationship that exists between Satan and Jesus is that of creation and Creator; of the sinful created being, Satan, and the righteous Judge, Jesus Christ.

Like the Mormons, the Jehovah’s Witnesses also teach that Jesus and Satan are spiritual brothers. While some Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses might sometimes try to sidestep this teaching because it is so antithetical to what the Bible actually says, it is nevertheless what these organizations believe and is part of their official doctrine.

Mormons believe that, not only were Jesus and Lucifer “spirit children of Elohim,” but that humans are spiritual children, as well. In other words, they believe that “God, angels, and men are all of the same species, one race, one great family.” This is why they believe that they themselves will one day become as much of a god as Jesus or even God the Father. Rather than seeing the clear distinction in Scripture between God and His creation, they believe that one day they will be a gods themselves. Of course, this is the same old lie Satan has been telling us since the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:15). Apparently, the desire to usurp the throne of God is endemic in the hearts of men.

In Matthew 16:15 Jesus asked the important question: “But who do you say that I am?” This is a question that is essential to salvation and one that the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses get wrong. Their answer that Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan is the wrong one. Jesus is God the Son, and in Him the fullness of the Godhead dwelt bodily (Colossians 2:9). He created Satan, and one day He will cast Satan into the lake of fire as the just punishment for his rebellion against God. Sadly, on that Day of Judgment those who fall for Satan’s lies will also be cast into the lake of fire with Satan and His demons. The god of the Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses is not the God who revealed Himself in Scripture. Unless these groups repent and come to understand and worship the one true God, they have no hope of salvation.

Recommended Resource: Reasoning from the Scriptures with Mormons by Ron Rhodes

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Hey do not criticize members of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints for believing what the Bible says. You said: "Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was the first “spirit child” born to God the Heavenly Father with one of his many wives.":

(New Testament | Colossians 1:14 - 15)

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

We do not teach that God has many wives, so stop saying what you think we believe.

You said: "All things” means what it says, and it includes Satan" It means all things physical, not all things spiritual. Jesus did not create Himself. Study these scriptures:
(New Testament | Romans 15:6)

6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God?

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 8:6)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

(New Testament | John 14:28)

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

He is the way said:

Hey do not criticize members of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints for believing what the Bible says. You said: "Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was the first “spirit child” born to God the Heavenly Father with one of his many wives.":

(New Testament | Colossians 1:14 - 15)

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

We do not teach that God has many wives, so stop saying what you think we believe.

You said: "All things” means what it says, and it includes Satan" It means all things physical, not all things spiritual. Jesus did not create Himself. Study these scriptures:
(New Testament | Romans 15:6)

6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God?

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 8:6)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

(New Testament | John 14:28)

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

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Please state the verse that says Jesus created all things physical not all things spiritual. And exactly what you mean by "spiritual."

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Hey do not criticize members of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints for believing what the Bible says. You said: "Mormons believe that Jesus Christ was the first “spirit child” born to God the Heavenly Father with one of his many wives."....."You said: "All things” means what it says, and it includes Satan" It means all things physical, not all things spiritual. Jesus did not create Himself. :

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You need to quote & refer to our exact posts, not just paraphrase what you think one or the other of us has said as I believe what you are mixing us up and the posts you are referring to is more then likely posts from @ mmksparbud not me, though I'm sure I agree with him.
The Bible scripture refutes the mormon teachings and it states that Jesus Christ is the eternal God, who has always existed, he was with God since the beginning, Jesus is referred to as the Word of God in John.
Also, in John 8:58 , in response to the Jews who said , ‘You are not yet fifty years old,’ the Jews said to him, ‘and you have seen Abraham!’ ‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I AM!’ Here Jesus was referring to the title God gave Himself in Exodus.

John 1:1-4 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. … And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."

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Please state the verse that says Jesus created all things physical not all things spiritual. And exactly what you mean by "spiritual."

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God the Father is the Father of spirits. He created the spirits:

(New Testament | Hebrews 12:9)

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Jesus' spirit was one of those spirits, He is the Son of God and we are His brethren. Jesus made this known after He was resurrected:

(New Testament | John 20:17)

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Angels are also spirits, ministering spirits:

(New Testament | Hebrews 1:13 - 14)

13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

He is the way said:

God the Father is the Father of spirits. He created the spirits:

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Jesus is God, he said referring to Exodus, "before Abraham, I AM."
He is not a spirit.
You cannot get it because your understanding has been corrupted because you have believed in a false teaching of what God is.

Pedra said:

Jesus is God, he said referring to Exodus, "before Abraham, I AM."
He is not a spirit.
You cannot get it because your understanding has been corrupted because you have believed in a false teaching of what God is.

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No, you don't understand that Jesus is the SON of God.