“Easter” Worship

Jonathan Mathews · Apr 23, 2019

BWV 565 said:
Hello All,

I do apologise if this has already been covered. I did have a quick look and didn’t see it mentioned I’m sorry if I missed it. I’ve been busy lately I will soon be married and obviously it has taken up a lot of my time. I’ve not been keeping an eye on politics and the news.

My question is primarily for the American users here. Why did so many people when referring to the attacks in Sri Lanka cite “Easter Worship” rather than call it an attack on Christians. Many of the same people were quick to call the Christchurch shooting an attack on Muslims, “the Muslim Community” or Islam.

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

I’d end by saying I do not use Twitter but a few articles I’ve read have made mention of tweets from Obama and Clinton et al. These people no longer aspire to office so why not call a spade a spade?

Jesus said it would get so bad, they would put Christians to death and actually believe they were doing God a favor. (John 16:2) Paul was like this before he met God in Christ Jesus.

Nithavela · Apr 24, 2019

I realise that some people are sceptic about my comments concerning the apparent victim complex of some christians. I must admit I can't read minds, but in my time here I have seen a pattern of christians being liable to call themselves the most oppressed people in the world, their plight ignored and their influence on society denied, all while being the biggest faith group in the world in general and in the USA specifically.

It's also generally presented as a sign that the end times are right around the corner.

I think it's unreasonable to construct persecution out of victims being addressed by the wrong name. The entire world stands behind the christians of sri lanka, including many non-christians, so I guess one has to get creative to be the pariah.

Chesterton · Apr 24, 2019

Nithavela said:
I realise that some people are sceptic about my comments concerning the apparent victim complex of some christians. I must admit I can't read minds, but in my time here I have seen a pattern of christians being liable to call themselves the most oppressed people in the world, their plight ignored and their influence on society denied, all while being the biggest faith group in the world in general and in the USA specifically.

Statistically it is certainly true that Christians are the most oppressed people in the world.

I think it's unreasonable to construct persecution out of victims being addressed by the wrong name.

I could have missed it, but I didn't see anyone in this thread say the weird naming itself was persecution. We're complaining about it for other reasons, as have been stated.

...so I guess one has to get creative to be the pariah.

I'd never accuse you of lacking creativity. I'm sure you're up to the challenge.

Chesterton · Apr 24, 2019

Belk said:
No one reads the associated press?

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I said apnews.com, the website.

FireDragon76 · Apr 24, 2019

BWV 565 said:
That’s my point. Who else prays at a mosque other than Muslims?

Don't overestimate the intelligence of the American public. I'm sure alot of newscasters think they are being helpful in elucidating that fact.

Belk · Apr 24, 2019

Chesterton said:
I said apnews.com, the website.

It's the web front for the Associated Press. It is the same story on apnews.com as it is in any of it's other locations.

St. Helens · Apr 24, 2019

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DaisyDay · Apr 24, 2019

BWV 565 said:
Hello All,

I do apologise if this has already been covered. I did have a quick look and didn’t see it mentioned I’m sorry if I missed it. I’ve been busy lately I will soon be married and obviously it has taken up a lot of my time. I’ve not been keeping an eye on politics and the news.

My question is primarily for the American users here. Why did so many people when referring to the attacks in Sri Lanka cite “Easter Worship” rather than call it an attack on Christians. Many of the same people were quick to call the Christchurch shooting an attack on Muslims, “the Muslim Community” or Islam.

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

I’d end by saying I do not use Twitter but a few articles I’ve read have made mention of tweets from Obama and Clinton et al. These people no longer aspire to office so why not call a spade a spade?

Easter is supposedly the holiest of Christian days, celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. "Easter worship" is by definition Christian, so, I suppose, it was considered redundant to spell it out in America.

The Christchurch shooting fell on a Friday, but not a special one to distinguish it as a massacre of Muslims. If it had been, say, an Eide shooting, it still would have to have been explained here because very few Americans have any clue what Eide is or who would be worshiping - unlike Easter which just about everyone here knows.

Nithavela · Apr 24, 2019

DaisyDay said:
Easter is supposedly the holiest of Christian days, celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. "Easter worship" is by definition Christian, so, I suppose, it was considered redundant to spell it out in America.

The Christchurch shooting fell on a Friday, but not a special one to distinguish it as a massacre of Muslims. If it had been, say, an Eide shooting, it still would have to have been explained here because very few Americans have any clue what Eide is or who would be worshiping - unlike Easter which just about everyone here knows.

I talked with an egyptian guy a while ago. He had no idea what easter was about, thought it was a generic celebration of spring.

FireDragon76 · Apr 24, 2019

DaisyDay said:
Easter is supposedly the holiest of Christian days, celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. "Easter worship" is by definition Christian, so, I suppose, it was considered redundant to spell it out in America.

Alot of it depends on the background of newscasters.

Pastor was commenting on how French firefighters talked about rescuing the "Body of Christ" in the tabernacle at Notre Damme and how many newscasters thought they were talking about a statue and not the reserved Sacrament.

DaisyDay · Apr 24, 2019

BWV 565 said:
I don’t think they pander to muslims but rather the left-wing activists who hold Islam to be an oppressed force for good in the world.

There might be some middle ground between an oppressed force for good in the world and unmitigated evil that needs to be exterminated.

DaisyDay · Apr 24, 2019

Nithavela said:
I talked with an egyptian guy a while ago. He had no idea what easter was about, thought it was a generic celebration of spring.

An Egyptian guy, not an American guy? That there could be the difference.

Nithavela · Apr 24, 2019

DaisyDay said:
There might be some middle ground between an oppressed force for good in the world and unmitigated evil that needs to be exterminated.

Welcome to 2019.

Chesterton · Apr 24, 2019

Belk said:
It's the web front for the Associated Press. It is the same story on apnews.com as it is in any of it's other locations.

It says the traffic ranking of apnews globally is 2,371. That's nothing in comparison to the views that will be had of tweets by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Speedwell · Apr 24, 2019

Nithavela said:
I talked with an egyptian guy a while ago. He had no idea what easter was about, thought it was a generic celebration of spring.

In any case, Easter will not be celebrated by Christians in Egypt until this coming Sunday.

Nithavela · Apr 24, 2019

Speedwell said:
In any case, Easter will not be celebrated by Christians in Egypt until this coming Sunday.

Really? How come?

Speedwell · Apr 24, 2019

Nithavela said:
Really? How come?

Copts use the Julian calendar to calculate the date of Easter rather than the Gregorian like Western churches do.

PeachyKeane · Apr 24, 2019

Speedwell said:
Who else participates in Easter worship besides Christians?

Some nominal Christians?

PeachyKeane · Apr 24, 2019

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BWV 565 said:
I don’t think they pander to muslims but rather the left-wing activists who hold Islam to be an oppressed force for good in the world.

I’m not replying to you specificity here but I’m not outraged. I was curious as the tweets seemed strange even if they were virtue signalling to the intersectional crowd. I thought perhaps I was missing something and wanted an American perspective.

Instead I’m portrayed as being an outraged, right-wing, Fox News watching Trump supporter. People seem to have misjudged me quite a bit sadly.

This is why:

QUOTE="BWV 565, post: 73883688, member: 418357"]
Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?[/quote]

If you don't want to be confused with Trump supporting FoxNews watchers, maybe don't impersonate them. For instance implying that the left cannot be Christian.

Belk · Apr 24, 2019

Chesterton said:
It says the traffic ranking of apnews globally is 2,371. That's nothing in comparison to the views that will be had of tweets by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

It is the associated press. Their content is seen by half the planet.

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