“Easter” Worship

[BWV 565]

Hello All,

I do apologise if this has already been covered. I did have a quick look and didn’t see it mentioned I’m sorry if I missed it. I’ve been busy lately I will soon be married and obviously it has taken up a lot of my time. I’ve not been keeping an eye on politics and the news.

My question is primarily for the American users here. Why did so many people when referring to the attacks in Sri Lanka cite “Easter Worship” rather than call it an attack on Christians. Many of the same people were quick to call the Christchurch shooting an attack on Muslims, “the Muslim Community” or Islam.

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

I’d end by saying I do not use Twitter but a few articles I’ve read have made mention of tweets from Obama and Clinton et al. These people no longer aspire to office so why not call a spade a spade?

 

[anna ~ grace]

Hello All,

I do apologise if this has already been covered. I did have a quick look and didn’t see it mentioned I’m sorry if I missed it. I’ve been busy lately I will soon be married and obviously it has taken up a lot of my time. I’ve not been keeping an eye on politics and the news.

My question is primarily for the American users here. Why did so many people when referring to the attacks in Sri Lanka cite “Easter Worship” rather than call it an attack on Christians. Many of the same people were quick to call the Christchurch shooting an attack on Muslims, “the Muslim Community” or Islam.

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

I’d end by saying I do not use Twitter but a few articles I’ve read have made mention of tweets from Obama and Clinton et al. These people no longer aspire to office so why not call a spade a spade?

Yes. Viewing Christians as a legitimate religious community worthy of pity or sorrow when attacked in their own houses of worship is frowned on.

 

[Chesterton]

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

Yes. If you say that Christians got attacked (yet again), it makes it sound like Christians got attacked (yet again). As always, truth is bad for their narrative.

 

[Speedwell]

Hello All,

I do apologise if this has already been covered. I did have a quick look and didn’t see it mentioned I’m sorry if I missed it. I’ve been busy lately I will soon be married and obviously it has taken up a lot of my time. I’ve not been keeping an eye on politics and the news.

My question is primarily for the American users here. Why did so many people when referring to the attacks in Sri Lanka cite “Easter Worship” rather than call it an attack on Christians. Many of the same people were quick to call the Christchurch shooting an attack on Muslims, “the Muslim Community” or Islam.

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

I’d end by saying I do not use Twitter but a few articles I’ve read have made mention of tweets from Obama and Clinton et al. These people no longer aspire to office so why not call a spade a spade?

Who else participates in Easter worship besides Christians?

 

[anna ~ grace]

It is ok in the secular news media to post many, many articles on the atrocities committed against the Yezidi. And the persecution they endured truly was horrible, and worthy of news, and attention.

But contrast that against how much coverage the persecution of Christians specifically by IS received. Not as much. Unless one turns to CBN, EWTN, or other Christian news outlets.

 

[JosephZ]

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

No, it's just that the Christian right feels like their way of life is under attack and they look for any little thing, regardless of how tiny it may be, to make it appear that the left and anyone else who doesn't agree with them is at war with them.

Here is what I posted about this in another thread:

Had this happened next Sunday, they probably would be referred to as only worshipers. That term has been used to describe people attending church for as long as I can remember. It's common sense that Easter worshipers means Christians. Just because the word Christian wasn't used to describe the victims killed in a church doesn't mean there is some kind of PC movement to stop using the word Christian.

If you do a google search of church attacks in the past, you will find many examples of where the term worshipers was used instead of Christians.

Here are a couple:

Men Attack Worshipers at St. Lucia Cathedral, Killing One (2001)

''The attack this morning on worshipers in Islamabad was a cowardly act that took the lives of five innocent people and injured many more while they were worshiping,'' -- Wendy J. Chamberlin United States Ambassador to Pakistan (2002)

Had these incidents occurred on Easter Sunday, they would have likely been called Easter worshipers. This is nothing new.

 

[BWV 565]

Who else participates in Easter worship besides Christians?

That’s my point. Who else prays at a mosque other than Muslims?

 

[BWV 565]

No, it's just that the Christian right feels like their way of life is under attack and they look for any little thing, regardless of how tiny it may be, to make it appear that the left and anyone else who doesn't agree with them is at war with them.

Here is what I posted about this in another thread:

Rather than disprove anything this seems to confirm that the two religions are not giving equal or fair coverage. I am hardly a right-winger just by the by.

 

[Arcangl86]

That’s my point. Who else prays at a mosque other than Muslims?

I think the intent was to focus on the importance of the day.

 

[Albion]

Hello All,

I do apologise if this has already been covered. I did have a quick look and didn’t see it mentioned I’m sorry if I missed it. I’ve been busy lately I will soon be married and obviously it has taken up a lot of my time. I’ve not been keeping an eye on politics and the news.

My question is primarily for the American users here. Why did so many people when referring to the attacks in Sri Lanka cite “Easter Worship” rather than call it an attack on Christians.

You are referring to the wording used by the media, I believe, not the average person.

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

Yes.

 

[The Faceless]

Who else participates in Easter worship besides Christians?

Who else worships in a mosque besides Muslims?

 

[BWV 565]

You are referring to the wording used by the media, I believe, not the average person.


Yes.

Yes I was referring to tweets highlighted on the Spectator Blog. I apologise I had named a few of the people in question but I decided to remove it as I did not want to make it seem overtly partisan.

I am not a Democrat or Republican (obviously British). I try to avoid being seen to be partisan though as I’m not. My politics are decided upon on an issue by issue basis. I’m not affiliated with a political party in the UK either.

 

[LoAmmi]

Did you read anywhere that they were called "Sabbath Worshipers"?

Wouldn't care if it did. If one goes looking to be offended and oppressed, they will never be disappointed.

 

[Albion]

Yes I was referring to tweets highlighted on the Spectator Blog. I apologise I had named a few of the people in question but I decided ti remove it as I did not want to make it seem overtly partisan.

Well, of course I do not have knowledge of all the people and posts you are thinking of, but I do know this--people who sympathize with the perspective of the press tend to mimic the phraseology and jargon (as well as the arguments) used by the newsmen they side with.

 

[BWV 565]

Wouldn't care if it did. If one goes looking to be offended and oppressed, they will never be disappointed.

You mistake curiosity with offence being taken. Either that or you need a better strawman.

I was referring to politicians and pundits. Obama and Clinton to name but two who you would think would take the opportunity to virtue signal to Christians like they did with Muslims regarding the Mosque shooting.

I find it strange 3 or 4 tweets were worded it in such an obtuse way. I seriously don’t see any harm in calling it what it was an attack in a Christians. I’d have made the same post regardless of the religion under attack.

Well, of course I do not have knowledge of all the people and posts you are thinking of, but I do know this--people who sympathize with the perspective of the press tend to mimic the phraseology and jargon (as well as the arguments) used by the newsmen they side with.

No worries my friend all these politicians have their accounts managed for them so I’m told. So you are probably right.

 

[LoAmmi]

You mistake curiosity with offence being taken. Either that or you need a better strawman.

I was referring to politicians and pundits. Obama and Clinton to name but two who you would think would take the opportunity to virtue signal to Christians like they did with Muslims regarding the Mosque shooting.

I find it strange 3 or 4 tweets were worded it in such an obtuse way. I seriously don’t see any harm in calling it what it was an attack in a Christians. I’d have made the same post regardless of the religion under attack.




No worries my friend all these politicians have their accounts managed for them so I’m told. So you are probably right.

It seems to me like people are trying to read into it too much. I get that it's a bit odd.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I would argue that it takes a true savant of exquisitely attuned grievance collection to read an individual reference to “Easter worshippers” as an attempt to avoid acknowledging Christianity. Easter is the most important holiday in the Christian calendar. “Easter” has no other meaning. As a celebration, it is far less secularly degraded than Christmas. Bunnies aside, it is basically inaccessible as a holiday to anyone uncomfortable with acknowledging the story of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. If anything, “Easter worshippers” puts extra emphasis on the religious nature of the attack by pointing out that it happened on a day of special spiritual meaning to victims. It implies: Not only did you attack Christians, you did it today of all days.

That's how I see it.

 

[Chesterton]

I would argue that it takes a true savant of exquisitely attuned grievance collection to read an individual reference to “Easter worshippers” as an attempt to avoid acknowledging Christianity. Easter is the most important holiday in the Christian calendar. “Easter” has no other meaning. As a celebration, it is far less secularly degraded than Christmas. Bunnies aside, it is basically inaccessible as a holiday to anyone uncomfortable with acknowledging the story of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. If anything, “Easter worshippers” puts extra emphasis on the religious nature of the attack by pointing out that it happened on a day of special spiritual meaning to victims. It implies: Not only did you attack Christians, you did it today of all days.

That's how I see it.

lol, if it requires writing an article to explain it...that's a fail.

 

[JosephZ]

Perhaps you are right and maybe it’s an Americanism but it seems like a strange way of wording things in my opinion.

According to some of the replies above it is normal to leave out the religion of Christians and Jews when referring to acts of violence against them so I don’t think so if I’m honest.

Here is President Trump's response to the New Zealand massacre.

"My warmest sympathy and best wishes goes out to the people of New Zealand after the horrible massacre in the Mosques. 49 innocent people have so senselessly died, with so many more seriously injured. The U.S. stands by New Zealand for anything we can do. God bless all!" -- President Donald Trump

He didn't mention the word Muslims or worshiping.

 

[essentialsaltes]

lol, if it requires writing an article to explain it...that's a fail.

I wonder how many people had to read an article before they were outraged about it.

No one was expressing concern or confusion or outrage at the AP 3 days ago.

 

[Kaon]

Hello All,

I do apologise if this has already been covered. I did have a quick look and didn’t see it mentioned I’m sorry if I missed it. I’ve been busy lately I will soon be married and obviously it has taken up a lot of my time. I’ve not been keeping an eye on politics and the news.

My question is primarily for the American users here. Why did so many people when referring to the attacks in Sri Lanka cite “Easter Worship” rather than call it an attack on Christians. Many of the same people were quick to call the Christchurch shooting an attack on Muslims, “the Muslim Community” or Islam.

Are things really so bad on the American left that the mere mention of Christianity is frowned upon?

I’d end by saying I do not use Twitter but a few articles I’ve read have made mention of tweets from Obama and Clinton et al. These people no longer aspire to office so why not call a spade a spade?

The side issue is that it is a subliminal about the nature of Easter.

It happens to be a common discussion here.