What the republicans are trying to do to America...

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... Sam Brownback did for Kansas.
At this point, there’s no excuse for anybody to be surprised by the aftermath of Brownback’s sweeping tax cuts. Media reports far and wide have chronicled the steps the state has taken in recent years to fill in the resulting revenue gaps.

On the day in 2012 when Brownback signed the tax-cut bill, critics were already forecasting fiscal doomsday. The measure slashed state income taxes by roughly $3.7 billion over five years. State financial analysts were predicting budget deficits totaling $2.5 billion in 2018.


Undaunted, Brownback insisted that the improved business climate would benefit all.


“We’re going to move this forward and make it work and take care of our fundamental services,” Brownback said that day.


But new figures from the Legislative Services Department in Topeka suggest a vastly different story. They show that since Brownback’s first year in office, the state has raided various funds or delayed payments to the tune of $3.1 billion.


That includes about $2.5 billion in payments to the state highway fund that were diverted elsewhere. In other words, instead of depositing funds into the highway account to maintain roads, the money was diverted to the general fund and other accounts.


Essentially, Brownback and lawmakers figured that the only way to finance basic services following those massive tax cuts was to dip into piggy banks.


Critics suggest that as highways deteriorate, the state will be hard-pressed to maintain them given all the ongoing highway-fund raids.


Brownback and lawmakers also delayed payments totaling more than $407 million from the employee retirement system, or KPERS. Economic development programs were raided to the tune of $125 million. About $47 million intended for children’s programs was diverted.


That’s only part of it. The state borrowed $1 billion and deposited it into the retirement account for needed stability. That money will have to be repaid, and so will the $407 million to make pension payments.

Editorial: How much did Sam Brownback’s policies cost Kansas?

It was sort of a governmental Ponzi scheme. One-hundred percent supply side economics. And Kansas became such a train wreck that the republican-led legislature did an intervention and took it away from Brownback, restoring some fiscal sanity. But his lavish giveaways to businesses will take years to pay for.
 

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It's all a game about deceiving the people, and keeping them deceived, while lining their own pockets behind the scenes and in secret...

They may know it's not going to and can't last, and so, are trying to get as much wealth/power as they can, and still have it (wealth and power) after a collapse, ect... Busy trying to secure and keep their positions even if there is a catastrophic collapse, ect... They don't want you to know that though...

They could care less about the rest of us... It's all about the money and power and making sure they keep it and stay there and that their own pockets are sufficiently lined to do so, ect...

God Bless!
 
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It's all a game about deceiving the people, and keeping them deceived, while lining their own pockets behind the scenes and in secret...

And Kansas is just the first state where people have figured it out.

Elected officials don’t often switch parties, which is why it raised a few eyebrows last week when Kansas state Sen. Barbara Bollier announced she was giving up on the Republican Party and becoming a Democrat.


“Morally, the party is not going where my compass resides,” Bollier explained. “I’m looking forward to being in a party that represents the ideals that I do, including Medicaid expansion and funding our K-12 schools.”


What we didn’t realize at the time was that she’d soon have some company. The Topeka Capital-Journal reported this morning:


Kansas Sen. Dinah Sykes and Rep. Stephanie Clayton served notice Wednesday of a decision to politically re-brand themselves by leaving the Republican Party to represent a Johnson County district as a Democrat.


Sykes, a Lenexa resident elected to the Senate in 2016, said she was motivated by the GOP’s approach on key issues and concerns about a party led by President Donald Trump.


The article added that we may yet see a fourth Kansas lawmaker make the same transition: “Another Republican in the House, Rep. Joy Koesten, of Leawood, said she also was giving consideration to switching her affiliation.”
Three Kansas lawmakers abandon Republican Party, become Dems
 
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And, why are you so upset if our politicians and those in power are "capitalizing" on their power, rank, positions, ect, we are "capitalists" after all... That's what a, and a people in a capitalist society do or does... To take advantage, to exploit, is not considered "wrong", in and under and when you are a part of, a capitalist society...

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Brownback seems to be a fan of Trickle Down Economics which is defined as "the principle that the poor, who must subsist on table scraps dropped by the rich, can best be served by giving the rich bigger meals."

The sad reality is that the poor don't get more scraps but the rich get fatter.
 
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Brownback seems to be a fan of Trickle Down Economics which is defined as "the principle that the poor, who must subsist on table scraps dropped by the rich, can best be served by giving the rich bigger meals."

The sad reality is that the poor don't get more scraps but the rich get fatter.
And the poor are continuing to get less and less over time, but they are wrecking their own base, but maybe they know this, but have some sort of plan around it (just for them) that involves not fixing it or preventing it from happening, but "working themselves around it"... And of course that includes getting as much as they possibly can for themselves now, or right now... For "their future", ect...

God Bless!
 
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It's not sustainable, and it is doomed to fail, and I think they already know this, and have maybe known it for awhile now... So, they have a "different plan", one that doesn't involve (saving or sparing) us, or you, or me, but something else entirely, something they don't want you to know about yet...

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Me, too. Some people are only here to discuss politics, and it clogs up the "new threads". It's annoying.
Thanks for the laugh...

However, many of our politicians would be a heck of a lot better, if they could just get outside the box of just politics, or only just playing politics only, from time to time...

God Bless!
 
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If the Grand Old Party does not wake up soon, it might become a thing of the past, at least as far as a Presidential party is concerned. It is already in trouble, having lost the Popular Vote in 6 of the last 7 Presidential Elections. The only exception was Bush's second election in 2004 and then he only won Ohio by about 118,000 votes and if he had lost Ohio, Kerry would have been President.
 
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And what is "politics" anyway...?

God Bless!

Driving division amongst Christians over issues of taxation and the efficiency if federal power seems needlessly political, especially since there is evidence on both sides to support their position.

Perhaps this isn't the site I thought it was, but it was the only site that came up in my search.
 
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Brownback seems to be a fan of Trickle Down Economics

His plan was prepared by the guru of trickle-down, Arnold Laffer.

The economist who helped wreck Kansas’ economy is Trump’s new budget cheerleader

What could possibly go wrong? Art Laffer has firsthand experience.
Five years ago, Laffer — a longtime champion of supply-side “trickle down” economics — made $75,000 helping Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback (R) shepherd a package of tax cuts through the Kansas legislature. The state’s cuts were similar to those now proposed by Trump on the national level.

In August 2012, Laffer promised a crowd at a small business forum in Kansas that the cuts would produce “enormous prosperity,” adding that they’ll “make a big difference in a decade.”

They did make a big difference, but not in the ways Brownback and Laffer intended.

As ThinkProgress reported on the occasion of a bipartisan group of Kansas lawmakers rolling back Brownback’s economic policies in June, the drastic cuts — which included eliminating state income taxes for pass-through businesses — didn’t produce the growth Laffer foresaw. Instead, employment and the state economy both grew slower than the national rates, and the drastic decline in tax revenue coming into the state’s coffers blew a gigantic hole in its budget.
The economist who helped wreck Kansas’ economy is Trump’s new budget cheerleader
 
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They're trying to make "Galt's Gulch" a reality. Great for them and their billionaire friends. Terrible for the rest of us.

Something "trickles down" from these policies, but it sure ain't prosperity and it sure doesn't taste too good.
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... Sam Brownback did for Kansas.
At this point, there’s no excuse for anybody to be surprised by the aftermath of Brownback’s sweeping tax cuts. Media reports far and wide have chronicled the steps the state has taken in recent years to fill in the resulting revenue gaps.

On the day in 2012 when Brownback signed the tax-cut bill, critics were already forecasting fiscal doomsday. The measure slashed state income taxes by roughly $3.7 billion over five years. State financial analysts were predicting budget deficits totaling $2.5 billion in 2018.


Undaunted, Brownback insisted that the improved business climate would benefit all.


“We’re going to move this forward and make it work and take care of our fundamental services,” Brownback said that day.


But new figures from the Legislative Services Department in Topeka suggest a vastly different story. They show that since Brownback’s first year in office, the state has raided various funds or delayed payments to the tune of $3.1 billion.


That includes about $2.5 billion in payments to the state highway fund that were diverted elsewhere. In other words, instead of depositing funds into the highway account to maintain roads, the money was diverted to the general fund and other accounts.


Essentially, Brownback and lawmakers figured that the only way to finance basic services following those massive tax cuts was to dip into piggy banks.


Critics suggest that as highways deteriorate, the state will be hard-pressed to maintain them given all the ongoing highway-fund raids.


Brownback and lawmakers also delayed payments totaling more than $407 million from the employee retirement system, or KPERS. Economic development programs were raided to the tune of $125 million. About $47 million intended for children’s programs was diverted.


That’s only part of it. The state borrowed $1 billion and deposited it into the retirement account for needed stability. That money will have to be repaid, and so will the $407 million to make pension payments.

Editorial: How much did Sam Brownback’s policies cost Kansas?

It was sort of a governmental Ponzi scheme. One-hundred percent supply side economics. And Kansas became such a train wreck that the republican-led legislature did an intervention and took it away from Brownback, restoring some fiscal sanity. But his lavish giveaways to businesses will take years to pay for.

You are making a sweeping generalization of the entire Republican Party based on the misconduct of one GOP senator from Kansas. Your political attacks are therefore unjustified.
 
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If the Grand Old Party does not wake up soon, it might become a thing of the past, at least as far as a Presidential party is concerned. It is already in trouble, having lost the Popular Vote in 6 of the last 7 Presidential Elections.

But we do not elect presidents by popular vote!

It is important to realize that the candidates do not campaign equally in all 50 states. Some states which are thought certain to go for the nominee of one party rather than the other one almost never see a presidential candidate! Why would they? The probable winner of state X uses his time and money in toss-up states instead, and the probable loser does the same.

The candidates are set upon campaigning where 1) there are a lot of ELECTORAL VOTES and 2) there is a reasonable chance of winning them. Trump, for example, was one of the most active campaigners in recent history, but he openly admitted that he passed up states in which he stood little chance. If he had campaigned there, his percentage of the POPULAR VOTE would certainly have gone up, although for no practical benefit to him.
 
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You are making a sweeping generalization of the entire Republican Party based on the misconduct of one GOP senator from Kansas.

It's true that the republican party is committed to supply-side economics. But how is being a believer in supply-side economics "misconduct?" It's true that Brownback did in Kansas, precisely what Trump is trying to do to America. Art Laffer designed the Kansas policy, and is advising Trump. Huge tax cuts for the wealthy were presented as a "shot of adrenaline for Kansas." Turned out to be more like a overdose of heroin.

But stupidity isn't necessarily evil. Laffer and Brownback seem to have honestly thought giving wealthy people and large corporations huge tax cuts would improve the economy. That's stupid, but not necessarily malicious, unless they knew that such a plan was faulty.

Your political attacks are therefore unjustified.

"Never attribute to malice, that which is adequately explained by stupidity." (Hanlon's Razor)
 
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But we do not elect presidents by popular vote!

It's merely a demonstration that the republican party is increasingly the party of smaller states which have more electoral votes than their population justifies. And in doing so, they've bet the farm on declining demographics.

You can't run a nation indefinitely against the will of most of its citizens. Eventually, they decide that the system itself is corrupt and change it.
 
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