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LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
Matthew 23:34
‘Because of this behold! I send to you prophets and wise men and scribes
And of them ye shall be killing and crucifying,
and of them ye will scourge<3146> in your synagogues<4864>,
and will pursue from city to city;
Mark 13:9
‘And take ye heed to yourselves,
for they shall deliver you up to sanhedrins<4892>, and to synagogues,
ye shall be beaten<1194>,
Luke 21:12
and before all these,
they shall lay on you their hands, and persecute<1377>,
delivering<3860> up to synagogues and prisons<5438>
Choose Wisely said: ↑
When discussing what will happen in Jerusalem Luke talks 70 AD and Matthew talks a future event that has not occurred yet.
Conclusion - Both are comparable endtime prophecies.......except ...... When talking about what happens in Jerusalem in these chapters Luke talks 70AD and Matthew talks a future event.
LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
Do you and/or others view Luke 17 as 70ad or future?
Is Luke 17 different than Luke 21?
Matthew 24:37
“But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Luk 17:26
“And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
Erik Nelson said: ↑
Luke 17 = 2C
sudden unexpected judgement and separation, without the obvious build ups to 70ad
according to the orthodox study bible (Luke 17:37 = Rev 20:9?):
LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
I actually have a thread on Luke 17:37:
Matthew 24:28
for wherever the corpse<4430> may be,
there shall the eagles/vultures<105> be gathered together.
Luke 17:37
And they answering say to him, 'Where, sir?'
and He saith to them, 'Where the body<4983> is, there will the eagles/vultures<105> be gathered together.'
Erik Nelson said: ↑
Luke 17 includes phrases from the entire Olivet discourse, both before and after Matthew 24:34, which could divide that version of the OD between 70 ad and the 2C
but Luke 17 conflates it all into a single event
Nice graph p70
Men of Nineveh and a Queen of the south are shown both in Matthew and Luke, but outside of the OD.
Different greek words are used for men of Nineveh #450 and Queen of the south #1453......another words, the queen is "awakened/roused" and the Ninevites "stand-up".
[I have a fairly large study on this in relation to the OT and Revelation.]
450. anistemi from 303 and 2476;
to stand up (literal or figurative, transitive or intransitive):--arise, lift up, raise up (again), rise (again), stand up(-right).
303. ana an-ah' a primary preposition and adverb;
properly, up;............
2476. histemi a prolonged form of a primary stao stah'-o (of the same meaning, and used for it in certain tenses);
to stand (transitively or intransitively), used in various applications (literally or figuratively):...................
Matthew 12:41
`Men of Nineveh shall be rising/standing-up<ἀναστήσονται 450> in the judging with this generation and shall be condemning it,
that they reform/repent into the proclamation of Jonah
and behold! greater/more of Jonah here.
Luke 11:32
'Men of Nineveh shall be rising/standing-up<ἀναστήσονται 450> in the judging with this generation and shall be condemning it,
that they reform/repent at the proclamation of Jonah
and behold! greater/more of Jonah here!
Same exact word form used in 1 Thess:
Greek and Hebrew Reader Online
1 Thessalonians 4:16
because the Lord Himself, in a shout, in Chief-Messenger's voice and in trump<4536> of God, shall be descending from heaven,
and the dead in Christ shall be rising/standing-up<ἀναστήσονται 450> First,
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Now the Queen:
1453. egeiro probably akin to the base of 58
(through the idea of collecting one's faculties); to waken (transitively or intransitively), i.e. rouse (literally, from sleep, from sitting or lying, from disease, from death; or figuratively, from obscurity, inactivity, ruins, nonexistence):--awake, lift (up), raise (again, up), rear up, (a-)rise (again, up), stand, take up.
Matthew 12:42
`A Queen of the south shall be being roused/wakened<1453> in the judging with this generation and shall be condemning it.
That she came out of the ends of the land to hear the wisdom of Solomon,
and behold! greater/more of Solomon here!
Luke 11:31
'A Queen of the south shall be being roused/wakened<1453> in the judging with the men of this generation and shall be condemning them, because she came from the ends of the land to hear the wisdom of Solomon
and behold! greater/more<4119> than Solomon here!
#1453 is used 1 time in Revelation....the rousing of John to measure the Sanctuary
The Court in Revelation 11:2
Revelation 11:
1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "be rousing<1453>! and measure!
the Sanctuary<3485> of the God
and the Altar
and those worshiping in it
2 and the Court/fold without of the Sanctuary, be casting-out!<1544> outside,
and no it thou should be measuring.
That it was given to the nations
and the holy City they shall be treading<3961> forty two months.
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