Should Cannabis Be Legalized? Is It A Sin To Consume?

step_by_step said:

Yes. I can't see how it would hurt anyone to make alcohol illegal.

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Hieronymus said:

It's great for medical use.
But that's not the substance that makes you 'high'.

I've smoked away a LOT of weed, up to a couple of years ago.
It's not good for your mental health.

Yeah i think it's a sin be pursue being high, or drunk, or stoned, or tripping.

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The new CBD strains offer the medical benefits without getting high.

Should Cannabis Be Legalized? - Yes.
Is It A Sin To Consume? - No.

Sparagmos said:

A recent study shows pot may improve neural plasticity.

Long-term behavioral and biochemical effects of an ultra-low dose of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC): neuroprotection and ERK signaling. - PubMed - NCBI

One great thing about legalization is that scientists can now study Cannabis like never before.

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I agree that it was a grave mistake to not allow the research to be done. But that study in no way contradicts what I said - did you note the dosage levels? There's no way to reliably achieve them by smoking the stuff, especially the strains available now. Furthermore, recreational use, by definition, intends to achieve dosages thousands of times higher than those of that study (no pun intended), and at those dosages the adverse effects of brain development are undeniable to any rational person.

chilehed said:

I agree that it was a grave mistake to not allow the research to be done. But that study in no way contradicts what I said - did you note the dosage levels? There's no way to reliably achieve them by smoking the stuff, especially the strains available now. Furthermore, recreational use, by definition, intends to achieve dosages thousands of times higher than those of that study (no pun intended), and at those dosages the adverse effects of brain development are undeniable to any rational person.

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You’re saying that higher doses necessarily mean a completely opposite effect?

So many highly intelligent and accomplished people smoke pot. Lots of doctors, attorneys, and professors are recreational users. Only heavy users seem to have cognitive issues.

Sparagmos said:

You’re saying that higher doses necessarily mean a completely opposite effect?

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It certainly wouldn't be a first, and the difference in dosage is huge - three or four orders of magnitude. Also, the study evaluated the impact of ultra-low dosages ofTHC on the damage done by specific neural stressors; to claim that it speaks in any way to the effects of recreational use in a population that doesn't have those stressors is just wrong. One might say you'd have to be smoking something to believe it.

Oddly enough, something that you can validly say that that study confirms is that the effects of THC on neural development last weeks longer than the subjective feeling of being high, even if you smoked only a ten-thousandth of what it takes to get high.

Sparagmos said:

So many highly intelligent and accomplished people smoke pot. Lots of doctors, attorneys, and professors are recreational users. Only heavy users seem to have cognitive issues.

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If you're buzzed, then by definition your neural plasticity is acutely impaired. The half-life in your system is seven to 20 days, so if you're smoking the stuff more than once or twice a month (that study actually indicates over seven weeks) your system doesn't have a chance to recover which means the impairment is chronic.

This has nothing to do with how intelligent you are, it's the nature of the chemical. The only thing that intelligence gets you is you can lower it more before people notice, and the last person to notice will be the guy doing it. Next to last will be his friends who are also doing it.

I'm willing to bet a lot of money that no one here does a ten-thousandth of a hit, once every seven weeks.

And BTW, you might want to take a look at this study, which was immediately linked on the abstract page of the one above:
Long-term cognitive deficits induced by a single, extremely low dose of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC): behavioral, pharmacological and biochemical studies in mice.

studentoftruth111 said:

What about use in moderation? Jesus drank wine.

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Can any one smoke marijuana and not get stoned? People can drink wine, but they are not to drink in excess whereby they get drunk. Some people do not know their limit. Some people know their limit but cannot stop. We are called to be sober, and in this world of fallen man, is it really safe to get drunk, let alone stoned? People must also be forgetting about the devil if they do.

1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. 8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

If one checks the traffic accident reports of states that have legalized marijuana, I would think that should prove why it should not be legalize since it becomes another means and temptations for how man chooses to be irresponsible. Is that good for the future generations of our children? I do not believe it is.

It cracks me up that people are so against MJ but are for prescription pills and I am not talking just pain pills. The side effects of prescription pills are horrendous. I asked my doc about a pill she was suggesting. I asked her if there were side effects. She replied, "All prescriptions have side effects." I know people who have had intense damage from simple pills like Prilosec. I think all things can become addictive, eating, shopping just to name a few. We have to know our limits and I am not ok with people abusing MJ or alcohol. I think MJ has many benefits and there could be some really amazing medical breakthroughs if enough studies were done. When it becomes a habit it is an issue but so is sugar and my country has a serious addiction to that substance.

It's not a sin. Nowhere in the Bible does it say it is.

Again, Pr. Fisk remarks about pietism and legalism come to mind here, especially what he has to say at 8 minutes in:


Everyone should exercise their Christian liberty with prudence and respect for the rights of their neighbor, but that doesn't mean people don't have the freedom to engage in activities that are lawful.

Neostarwcc said:

Yet you can legally own and buy cigerettes so why not marijuana?

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Because the recreational use of MJ is much worse for you and the rest of society than tobacco.

step_by_step said:

Yes. I can't see how it would hurt anyone to make alcohol illegal.

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Except we tried that once and it was a disaster.

chilehed said:

Because the recreational use of MJ is much worse for you and the rest of society than tobacco.

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But studies show its not much worse for your health than tobacco. Most of the health risks are cancer and premature death and stuff like that. Tobacco causes all of those things too. But my dad thinks the main reason that pot isn't legal is because the governmebt can't control the growing of it and it can't cash in on marijuana use like it can tobacco. I mean the government makes billions and billions of dollars off of tobacco but you can't really open up a pot shop anywhere nor would the government make any money if they legalized the growing of pot. I wonder how Canada does it now that they legalized pot and the growing of it. Maybe the US could use the same methods.


Anyway the government says the reason that pot is illegal is because its more harmful than tobacco but there's really no studies that prove it. That's why its legal medically and legal in some states. I heard they're trying to legalize it in my state of New York too. While I don't smoke it myself its a law that I hope passes.

Neostarwcc said:

But studies show its not much worse for your health than tobacco. Most of the health risks are cancer and premature death and stuff like that.

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You're totally ignoring the very real and very dangerous effects on cognition, which are vastly greater for MJ than for tobacco.

Neostarwcc said:

Anyway the government says the reason that pot is illegal is because its more harmful than tobacco but there's really no studies that prove it.

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Nonsense. There are loads of studies that prove it, it's just that people choose to ignore them because they want to get high.

Neostarwcc said:

That's why its legal medically and legal in some states.

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More nonsense. It's legal because of political pressure from people who want to get high and who want to get rich selling it.

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The plant was made by God and has been in use for thousands of years.
It is similar to hot pepper or Horseradish in the sense that a small amount is very beneficial, but a large amount may result in an unpleasant experience.
It is pretty much that simple.

studentoftruth111 said:

It is time to take an honest and open-minded look at cannabis.

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This article is a good starting point.