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Wrong argument mine adversary. Where did I ever say the apostles never ministered to people on the Sabbath and didn’t only met with such on the first day? Instead, I distinctly said "that the only specific day that the NT church, as a church, is mentioned meeting on is the 1st day," which is the reality. Acts 17:1-3; 13:13-16; 13:43-44; 18:2-4 are all synagogue services, not churches of believers, and Acts 16:12-13 is that of Jewish women meeting for prayer, not believers.
Rather, you have no actual examples and thus attempted to move the goal posts.
Sense? You mean doing what the NT church as a church is nowhere shown specifically doing? Since when did it make sense to come up with things like prayer to created beings in Heaven when Scripture does not even provide one example of any believer praying to anyone in Heaven except the Lord? Even despite the Holy Spirit inspiring the recording of over 200 prayers by believers , and in instruction teaches to address the Lord, and states that the only heavenly intercessor btwn God and man is the Lord Jesus, (1 Tim. 2:5), while the Holy Spirit in believer's heart cries out "Abba, Father," (Gal. 4:6) not "Mama, Mother?"
Which is what I said, that unless God had manifest in what ways the new covenant was different then they could not have judged that circumcision was not necessary.
Indeed, as shown and said, as the Holy Spirit guided them into what Scripture taught, versus having no OT scriptural basis to reach the conclusion, which was your demonstrably false change.
You are now starting to waste my time with sophistry and repeated indefensible fallacious arguments for a church falsely claiming to uniquely being the one true church.
I would like to start by saying it is not my intention to be your adversary. I simply wanted to share what I have learned with other Christians. I would also like to point out that I am neither Catholic or Orthodox. I’m a nondenominational who has a tenancy to lean towards the Orthodox teaching. I’m not here to argue or debate anything. I’m simply here to share the other side of the story for people to take into consideration. Whether they choose to consider it or reject it is not my concern. The scriptures I quoted shows that Paul and others did meet in the synagogues on the sabbath regularly to teach. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had worshipped while they were there. The point is they met regularly on the sabbath. I find it hard to believe that they didn’t worship along with the other Jews while being there on the sabbath. The apostles were not against worshiping on the sabbath. They attended on the sabbath to bring the good news to others. As far as praying to the saints there is scriptural evidence to support prayers to the saints. Prayers of supplication and intercession are encouraged in the Bible. The saints are not dead they are very much alive with The Lord and still active members in the church. Personally I’ve never prayed to Mary or the saints. I’ve never thought it was necessary. I pray directly to God but I don’t see any reason to rebuke someone for praying to the saints for intercession and supplication as it is not a sin. I do that quite regularly for my brothers and sisters who are still here on earth. Whether or not the saints can hear their prayers I don’t know. It really doesn’t matter because I know God hears all prayers. So while I don’t practice it I also don’t see any reason to condemn it or those who practice it. Just because prayers to the saints isn’t in the Bible doesn’t mean it can’t be true. The Bible doesn’t say Jesus had black hair and brown eyes but it certainly is possible that He did. The Bible is not meant to explain all the mysteries of God, heaven, and the spiritual world. It only gives us a glimpse. Much of the scriptures were written by revelation from the Holy Spirit. I believe it is very likely that He has continued to reveal mysteries that are not mentioned in the scriptures. Typically I don’t proclaim them as being truth but usually take them into consideration as a possibility. Like for example Mary’s perpetual virginity. I don’t know for certain one way or the other but I do believe it is a possibility. So I remain neutral on the subject so as to not call someone else a liar when I really have no way of knowing for sure. Although I will say that in my opinion I believe such a topic would’ve been considered strictly taboo to discuss and most likely would not have been something revealed to the public or ever questioned or disclosed.
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