Michelle Obama will never forgive Trump for promoting birther CT

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i said classmates - not present day speaking tours

i googled to find out for myself back at the time - my own research convinced me -

so better you google if you are interested - that way you can take all the time you need to find out for yourself enough info to convince you

if you don't have time to research for yourself then that is ok - but realize that i also don't have time to research for a 2nd time what you might not want to do the 1st time

I’m citing his job roles and education before he went into politics, professionally. I’ll look at your other post though, the deregulation seems to have resulted in some short term gains - not too convinced those are going to play out well long term though.
 
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Former first lady Michelle Obama"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback,"
I have not always agreed with what we did as a country but I can honestly say that unlike Former first lady Michelle Obama I have always been proud of my country.

Always?
 
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why is it wrong to make sure that a president was born in the US?

Because it's arguably not relevant to the position. While there is some legitimate debate as to what exactly "natural-born" means in the Constitution, it's generally accepted to mean "citizen at birth", in which case, it doesn't necessarily matter where you're born. If either of your parents are American citizens when you're born, you automatically become a citizen, too.

Even if the birthers were right, Obama would've been born in a foreign country to a foreign man and an American woman... just like Ted Cruz was. Yet only a handful of people ever made a peep about Cruz' eligibility. The whole thing was a ploy to paint Obama as a dangerous interloper to be feared, and it worked because he was a black Democrat with a non-Christian name.

Former first lady Michelle Obama"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback,"
I have not always agreed with what we did as a country but I can honestly say that unlike Former first lady Michelle Obama I have always been proud of my country.

Are you white?

no - he was targeted because he came out of nowhere - and no one including his yearbook classmates knew him or remembered him - a little strange for someone who wants to lead the country to have no known connections to the country that he eventually dissed every chance he could -

He didn't come out of nowhere and the claim that his college classmates didn't remember him was a lie.

who runs around the world dissing his beloved country of birth?

That's not true, either.

- what christian runs around dissing christians as terrorists and supporting islam as better than christianity? - lots of strange stuff here

What are you talking about?


i googled to find out for myself back at the time - my own research convinced me -

Your research wasn't good enough.

Obama at Columbia University - FactCheck.org
FACT CHECK: Barack Obama at Columbia
Barack Obama: the college years
 
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Another excerpt:

“The whole [birther] thing was crazy and mean-spirited, of course, its underlying bigotry and xenophobia hardly concealed. But it was also dangerous, deliberately meant to stir up the wingnuts and kooks,” she writes. “What if someone with an unstable mind loaded a gun and drove to Washington? What if that person went looking for our girls? Donald Trump, with his loud and reckless innuendos, was putting my family’s safety at risk. And for this I’d never forgive him.”

...she's right.
 
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The issue here is that Obama was targeted specifically based on his name and race, as if implying nobody can be truly American unless they have a standard English name and are white.
Yep. How many people "just wanting to be sure" Obama was born in the US have seen Trump's long form birth certificate? Or even asked about it?
 
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Because it's arguably not relevant to the position. While there is some legitimate debate as to what exactly "natural-born" means in the Constitution, it's generally accepted to mean "citizen at birth", in which case, it doesn't necessarily matter where you're born. If either of your parents are citizens when you're born, you automatically become an American citizen (unless you're a diplomat).

Even if the birthers were right, Obama would've been born in a foreign country to a foreign man and an American woman... just like Ted Cruz was. Yet only a handful of people ever made a peep about Cruz' eligibility. The whole thing was a ploy to paint Obama as a dangerous interloper to be feared, and it worked because he was a black Democrat with a non-Christian name.



Are you white?



He didn't come out of nowhere and the claim that his college classmates didn't remember him was a lie.



That's not true, either.



What are you talking about?




Your research wasn't good enough.

Obama at Columbia University - FactCheck.org
FACT CHECK: Barack Obama at Columbia
Barack Obama: the college years
Seriously, you are asking if I am white? If race makes a difference to you, what does that say about you iluvatar5150?
 
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So were you proud of America’s history regarding the genocide of the Native Americans, Proud of Slavery, Proud of Jim Crow.

There are many things Americans should be proud off, from the Bill of Rights, the constitution, but please do not be blind to history.
 
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no - he was targeted because he came out of nowhere - and no one including his yearbook classmates knew him or remembered him - a little strange for someone who wants to lead the country to have no known connections to the country that he eventually dissed every chance he could -
He didn't come out of nowhere. He came out of Hawaii! Here he is with his high school basketball team
 
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The Obamas damaged America more than any other 2 people. Tough road ahead for them, hopefully.
True. They gave people reason enough nominate two inadequate candidates and elect a President whose idea of organizational structure resembles an organized crime syndicate.
 
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So were you proud of America’s history regarding the genocide of the Native Americans, Proud of Slavery, Proud of Jim Crow.

There are many things Americans should be proud off, from the Bill of Rights, the constitution, but please do not be blind to history.
It isn't perfect. Mistakes have been made. It is still the best country in the world and I am still proud of it.
 
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do we know this for an absolute fact?
My keen peers of observation and that of any reasonable person make it pretty obvious.
 
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And well she should not.
Michelle Obama: 'I'd never forgive' Trump for promoting birther conspiracy

Former first lady Michelle Obama writes in her forthcoming memoir that President Donald Trump's promotion of the so-called birther movement is something she will "never forgive him for," according to excerpts obtained by The Washington Post and other outlets, detailing the threats she said her family felt as a result of Trump's amplification of the conspiracy theory.​
I have a lot of sympathy for her angry towards putting her family at risk. His words do generate a lot of activity as he is President and a lot of people hang on every word he says
 
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Forgive and you will be forgiven. I dont know about M. Obama but i need forgiveness.
Our President appears to believe he doesn’t need forgiveness.
 
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