Should Christians Carry Guns?

StephenDiscipleofYHWH · Nov 10, 2018

dogs4thewin said:
For those who oppose Christians carrying guns I have two questions. One does that mean that a Christian should not be a police officer, service member, hunter? Two if you were out some where and suppose it hit the fan and there was a shooting, and you later found out that a Christian ( police officer or civilian ended it with a gun would you be mad that violence was used to end the threat or glad to be alive)?

1. Yes a Christian should not be a police officer, but only one of the reasons for this is that we are not to do harm to any man for any reason.
2. Yes a Christian should not join the military, but only one of the reasons for this is that we are not to harm any man for any reason.
3. Nothing wrong with hunting animals and eating them(so long as you drain all their blood before eating).
4. I would feel great sorrow for the person who died and for the person who killed. The person who died because he was killed in sin and will never have a chance at salvation being robbed of it by the killer. I feel fell sorrow for the killer because he is now guilty of robbing a man of Salvation, breaking God's, law, and for the punishment to come against him for doing this.

dogs4thewin · Nov 10, 2018

StephenDiscipleofYHWH said:
1. Yes a Christian should not be a police officer, but only one of the reasons for this is that we are not to do harm to any man for any reason.
2. Yes a Christian should not join the military, but only one of the reasons for this is that we are not to harm any man for any reason.
3. Nothing wrong with hunting animals and eating them(so long as you drain all their blood before eating).
4. I would feel great sorrow for the person who died and for the person who killed. The person who died because he was killed in sin and will never have a chance at salvation being robbed of it by the killer. I feel fell sorrow for the killer because he is now guilty of robbing a man of Salvation, breaking God's, law, and for the punishment to come against him for doing this.

The forth question was not would you be happy in their death.

Southernscotty · Nov 10, 2018

dogs4thewin said:
but I am certain you do not WANT to be forced to use your gun for that reason. You do not walk around hoping to pull your gun that is what Christ hates.

No way, It is a last resort. I pray that I never have to use on a human.

messianist · Nov 10, 2018

People can't seem to understand that Elohim is the creator and sustainer
He guides all his sheep and protects them, the op asked should we carry a gun for protection, not for hunting not as police officers and so on,
It clearly says in the bible that those who don't trust him to sin,
If people can't find any comfort in him [Peace] then this scripture would be worth you all considering 2 Peter 1:10

dogs4thewin · Nov 10, 2018

Southernscotty said:
No way, It is a last resort. I pray that I never have to use on a human.

so Christ has no problem with that, and in fact sometimes part of love is protecting others.

dogs4thewin · Nov 10, 2018

messianist said:
People can't seem to understand that Elohim is the creator and sustainer
He guides all his sheep and protects them, the op asked should we carry a gun for protection, not for hunting not as police officers and so on,
It clearly says in the bible that those who don't trust him to sin,
If people can't find any comfort in him [Peace] then this scripture would be worth you all considering 2 Peter 1:10

so would you be happy or mad if someone used violence to protect you?

messianist · Nov 10, 2018

dogs4thewin said:
that is done and I replied directly to it.[/QUOTyour not addressing the op your bringing in other accounts .

messianist · Nov 10, 2018

dogs4thewin said:
so would you be happy or mad if someone used violence to protect you?

Elohim protects me

archer75 · Nov 10, 2018

Here's a question: how can you be sure what you're going to do with it?

Southernscotty · Nov 10, 2018

dogs4thewin said:
so Christ has no problem with that, and in fact sometimes part of love is protecting others.

Yes it is, We are held to a higher accountability.
We can beat satan and his minions by the Word of God, But a demonic meth head that is bent on destruction and murder may need other methods if he walks in and starts shooting.
God gives us common horsesense, [ Well some of us ] We know what is right and wrong because the Spirit is leading us. We are filled with love and love does no harm.

dogs4thewin · Nov 10, 2018

messianist said:
Elohim protects me

that does not mean that sometimes violence is not used to do so.

StephenDiscipleofYHWH · Nov 10, 2018

dogs4thewin said:
I am not proud in myself. I am pound to believe in and support people's right to bear arms as given in the second amendment, and but for my limitations I would use that right myself.

Pride in all forms is wrong as there was never an occasion given to be proud. Everything we do must done in Lowliness of spirit, and humility of mind(Ephesians 4:2, Matt 5:3-5; Acts 20:19). Being proud for supporting and believing in something does not give all glory to God(1 Cor 14:26; 1 Cor 10:31-11:1) but instead gives it to yourself for your own actions.

Tom 1 · Nov 10, 2018

timewerx said:
I've read his post for 20 years.

It's what I grew up with and believed for 20 years.

Nobody owns a gun in our family.

To think I should be in favor of a "no gun" ideology. But no. That's that's not what I'm seeing from the teachings of Christ.

Jesus in a nutshell is only telling His disciples NOT to advance the Kingdom of God through violence (like what the Crusades and radical Islam did).

However, self-defense is a different matter altogether and Jesus permitted His disciples to have something for self defense like a dagger.

Why Jesus stopped Peter from harming the soldier is because the appointed time for Christ has come.

Earlier, people have also tried to kill Jesus but Jesus defended Himself effectively and succesfully because it wasn't His appointed time yet.

This is something A LOT of Christians don't understand that can make us look very unconvincing to unbelievers. To name a few other concepts (a rather long list) many understood in error about what is actually being taught in the Bible.

Hmm well those are still selective interpretations - not things explicitly taught, e.g. that carrying a sword or dagger in the group was for self defence. I carry a knife and other sharp tools for work, or when on long hikes, nothing to do with self defence. It’s a debatable point.

It’s also worth noting that at least some points in the early church any soldiers who became Christians were expected thereafter to take part only in civic and security duties, not active participation in war waging - a pretty tall order as they may well have faced severe discipline.

dogs4thewin · Nov 10, 2018

Southernscotty said:
Yes it is, We are held to a higher accountability.
We can beat satan and his minions by the Word of God, But a demonic meth head that is bent on destruction and murder may need other methods if he walks in and starts shooting.
God gives us common horsesense, [ Well some of us ] We know what is right and wrong because the Spirit is leading us. We are filled with love and love does no harm.

What I say is it OK to not want to defend yourself, but when you are unwilling to do your best to defend others I do not like it.

messianist · Nov 10, 2018

dogs4thewin said:
that does not mean that sometimes violence is not used to do so.

your mind set shoes

dogs4thewin said:
that does not mean that sometimes violence is not used to do so.

A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Southernscotty · Nov 10, 2018

This reminds me of the old saying about the guy sitting on the rooftop during a flood as the helicopter hovers him and he states that he don't need saving because God will save Him.

dogs4thewin · Nov 10, 2018

Southernscotty said:
This reminds me of the old saying about the guy sitting on the rooftop during a flood as the helicopter hovers him and he states that he don't need saving because God will save Him.

yup sometimes guns sends others as the help to save you.

Dansiph · Nov 10, 2018

I can't carry a gun for self defense as I live in the UK. I legally carry a 3" folding non-locking pen knife though. I'm also not allowed to use it in self defense I have to rely on my fists but I would not hesitate to use it on a dog for example. I can't match a dog bite for bite but if I can stab it in vulnerable areas maybe it'll leave me alone.

To answer directly I think a Christian can carry a gun. If I lived in the US I'd carry if allowed. Shooting, hunting, collecting I see no issue really.

To clarify I mean an aggressive and attacking dog not just a friendly and bothersome one. lol

Lord'sWarrior · Nov 10, 2018

As someone said once, "guns are for police and thieves".

jsimms615 · Nov 10, 2018

step_by_step said:
This is not an attempt to make anyone angry or stir up anything. This is a real question that I'm struggling with in my life right now. I just want to start a friendly debate/discussion and I also don't want to include politics in this.

That being said, I'm considering getting a permit to carry a concealed weapon. It's something that I've thought about for a long time now and it's been back on the front of my mind lately. I would want to train myself so I knew how to use the weapon and when using it, I would never want to kill anyone.

But my question is, is it wrong for a Christian to carry a gun? In Matthew 26:52, Jesus warns Peter that all who draw the sword will die by the sword. Does this mean that we shouldn't arm ourselves? I personally know a few Christians who live firmly by the second amendment and therefore have lots of guns for protection. Does God frown upon this?

I can't think of anywhere in the Bible it prohibits christians from carrying a gun. If you want to I think you have the liberty to do so if you want to

dogs4thewin · Nov 10, 2018

messianist said:
your mind set shoes

A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Let me asks you this Do you use doctors?

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