The way, the truth and the life: explained

Brotherly Spirit said:

Any disagreements with my first post? I found where Jesus had specifically said the kingdom of God is within. But also that it's not something that comes with observation. To me this means that even if we observe Jesus and mimic him, it must come from the heart in spirit seeking him. That we're to humble ourselves for understanding him as he is the way, the truth, and the life. It's all to be done in love for him and not ourselves, if we have him in our hearts then he and the Father are there with us (the kingdom of God/the spirit of God). I'm interested what you think about it, if you don't mind.

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Soyeong said:

I am reminded of these verses:

Deuteronomy 30:10-16 “However, all this will happen only if you pay attention to what Adonai your God says, so that you obey his mitzvot and regulations which are written in this book of the Torah, if you turn to Adonai your God with all your heart and all your being. (LY: vi) 11 For this mitzvah which I am giving you today is not too hard for you, it is not beyond your reach. 12 It isn’t in the sky, so that you need to ask, ‘Who will go up into the sky for us, bring it to us and make us hear it, so that we can obey it?’ 13 Likewise, it isn’t beyond the sea, so that you need to ask, ‘Who will cross the sea for us, bring it to us and make us hear it, so that we can obey it?’ 14 On the contrary, the word is very close to you — in your mouth, even in your heart; therefore, you can do it! (RY: iv, LY: vii) 15 “Look! I am presenting you today with, on the one hand, life and good; and on the other, death and evil — 16 in that I am ordering you today to love Adonai your God, to follow his ways, and to obey his mitzvot, regulations and rulings ; for if you do, you will live and increase your numbers; and Adonai your God will bless you in the land you are entering in order to take possession of it.

Romans 10:4-10 For Moshe writes about the righteousness grounded in the Torah that the person who does these things will attain life through them. 6 Moreover, the righteousness grounded in trusting says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend to heaven?’” — that is, to bring the Messiah down — 7 or, “‘Who will descend into Sh’ol?’” — that is, to bring the Messiah up from the dead. 8 What, then, does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart.” — that is, the word about trust which we proclaim, namely, 9 that if you acknowledge publicly with your mouth that Yeshua is Lord and trust in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be delivered. 10 For with the heart one goes on trusting and thus continues toward righteousness, while with the mouth one keeps on making public acknowledgement and thus continues toward deliverance.
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The Torah is the way (Deuteronomy 10:11-12, Psalm 119:1, Jeremiah 6:16-19), the truth (Psalm 119:142, Psalm 19:7, Nehemiah 9:13), and the life (Deuteronomy 30:15-16, Proverbs 3:18, Matthew 19:17), Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6), the Torah is God's Word and and Jesus is God's Word made flesh, so they are the same way, truth, and life.

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Soyeong said:

There is a difference between believe that something is true and believing in it. Take a scenario where a police officer pulled someone over and as they approached their car the driver pulled out a gun and pointed it at their chest. If the officer reacher for their gun, then they would very likely take a bullet to the chest, but they were wearing a bulletproof vest. Confidentiality reaching for their gun is the difference between believe that a bulletproof vest can stop a bullet and believing in it to stop a bullet to save their life. So believing in something is confidentiality acting upon what we know to be true.

While it is true that Abraham believed God and it was counted as righteousness, it is also true that he believed God, so he didn't hesitate to offering Isaac, reasoning that God would raise him from the dead in order to keep His promise (Hebrews 11:17-19).

So to believe in his name is to believe in his authority, who he is, what he accomplished, and that that means for how we should therefore live our lives. If we believe in Jesus is Lord, then we will submit to Him as Lord. If we believe in the fact that he gave himself to redeem us from all Lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, then we will become zealous for doing good works in obedience to His Torah (Titus 2:11-14, Acts 21:20).

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Brotherly Spirit said:

Last night I watched this video, it's a Messianic Rabbi talking about the Torah and Jesus. Specifically at this time he explains systematic theology, how a subject is selected for the ease of studying and sharing. That in Judaism the main three are God, people, and Torah; also in Christianity it's God, people, and Jesus. The connection he makes is that Torah and Jesus are one in the same.

Later the Rabbi quotes a theologian scholar about there the lack of word(s) in Greek for Paul to describe legalism. What's said about the law isn't an abolishment of it, but addressing the vanity of legalism. An example is Jesus and the Sabbath, the Pharisees questioned why his disciples were picking grain on the Sabbath; his response was David and others when hungry had gone into the temple then ate the bread meant for the Priests.

His point was it was unlawful David and them, but the Priests were blameless though they desecrated the Sabbath. (Matthew 12:3-5) Jesus highlights the hypocrisy of the Pharisee's self-righteousness, tells them that there's one greater than the temple; that he is Lord even on the Sabbath, it's "I desire mercy and not sacrifice." My understanding is Jesus and law aren't separate, but in light of him we have a clearer and better understanding of it in faith. (Matthew 12:6-8)

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Brotherly Spirit said:

It's not our judgment to say who does or doesn't. If you disagree about what he said in the videos, it would be better for us if you made the case as before. What about his beliefs are incorrect and where in the Bible does it contradict?

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John Bowen said:

For me "way " means path .I read the early disciples weren't called Christians the were called "Followers of the Way " .I follow what Jesus told us to look at the beam in our eye in modern terms that must be our psychology . Same with as being little children that have open minds. I have to keep looking at myself seeing if the prince of this world has anything in me anger, pride , lust , envy cause I know that man will never enter Heaven .

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Greg J. said:

We each do our best to continue learning.

The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know. (1 Corinthians 8:2, 1984 NIV)

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Greg J. said:

You are looking only on the surface of things. If anyone is confident that he belongs to Christ, he should consider again that we belong to Christ just as much as he. (2 Corinthians 10:7, 1984 NIV)

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