Moses and his insecurities

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted. When faced with conflict/challenges he hides, runs away or throws a tantrum. He ran away from Egypt and it took him 40 years to get the nerve to come back. He refused to be the mouthpiece of God and kept giving excuses why he didn't want to do it. In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things, hitting rocks with his stick and seemed to be immensely insecure vieling himself so people still thought his face was still shining.

HTacianas · Sep 14, 2018

Moses. What a hot head.

Dave-W · Sep 14, 2018

HTacianas said:
Moses. What a hot head.

And yet, the only person after Adam to see God face to face.

SeventyOne · Sep 14, 2018

God has to use people with all types of flaws, because that's the only kind currently available. The one common trait among them is they all also believed what He said. Gives is all hope.

akaDaScribe · Sep 14, 2018

DamianWarS said:
Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted. When faced with conflict/challengers he hides, runs away or throws a tantrum. He ran away from Egypt and it took him 40 years to get the nerve to come back. He refused to be the mouthpiece of God and kept giving excuses why he didn't want to do it. In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things, hitting rocks with his stick and seemed to be immensely insecure vieling himself so people still thought his face was still shining.

Moses was also the one who pleaded for the people when God would have destroyed them. He is the one who asked to be blotted out of the book if the people were destroyed. He was the one who hung out with God on the mountain when no one else could even touch it.

He had his weaknesses like we all do, but it would be a mistake to judge him like his sister did. Consider the whole man and not just his shortcomings.

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

HTacianas said:
Moses. What a hot head.

It's like a dad going out to get ice cream for the kids and he takes too long so the kids get into the cookie jar. Dad comes home and sees the horror, flips out and throws the ice cream against the wall.

Greg J. · Sep 14, 2018

Moses was the perfect instrument for God. He knew that he could do nothing great on his own, which meant God could use him for great and awesome things without it harming Moses.

(Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth.) (Numbers 12:3, 1984 NIV)

His lack of confidence in himself had too much of an element of not trusting God, though.

Now go; I will help you speak and will teach you what to say.” But Moses said, “O Lord, please send someone else to do it.” (Exodus 4:12-13, 1984 NIV)

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Greg J. said:
Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth

who wrote this?

Greg J. · Sep 14, 2018

The Holy Spirit—the only One that could know the humility of everyone on earth.

Doctor.Sphinx · Sep 14, 2018

DamianWarS said:
Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted. When faced with conflict/challenges he hides, runs away or throws a tantrum. He ran away from Egypt and it took him 40 years to get the nerve to come back. He refused to be the mouthpiece of God and kept giving excuses why he didn't want to do it. In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things, hitting rocks with his stick and seemed to be immensely insecure vieling himself so people still thought his face was still shining.

Seems a dangerous game to play, mocking the servants of God.

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Doctor.Sphinx said:
Seems a dangerous game to play, mocking the servants of God.

What do you think might happen to me? I'm not interested in mocking Moses but rather to show a different side of him, that I might add is plainly read in scripture. God used him for great things despite his inabilities.

Doctor.Sphinx · Sep 14, 2018

DamianWarS said:
What do you think might happen to me? I'm not interested in mocking Moses but rather to show a different side of him, that I might add is plainly read in scripture. God used him for great things despite his inabilities.

Your claims are inaccurate. Out of the 5 you made, only one was accurate enough not to post in the list of deceptions you claimed below, and even this one was misleading.

1) Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted.
2) When faced with conflict/challenges he hides, runs away or throws a tantrum.
3) He ran away from Egypt and it took him 40 years to get the nerve to come back.
4) In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things, hitting rocks with his stick and seemed to be immensely insecure vieling himself so people still thought his face was still shining.

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Greg J. said:
The Holy Spirit—the only One that could know the humility of everyone on earth.

The HS inspires but he doesn't put pen to paper

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Doctor.Sphinx said:
Your claims are inaccurate. Out of the 5 you made, only one was accurate enough not to post in the list of deceptions you claimed below, and even this one was misleading.

1) Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted.
2) When faced with conflict/challenges he hides, runs away or throws a tantrum.
3) He ran away from Egypt and it took him 40 years to get the nerve to come back.
4) In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things, hitting rocks with his stick and seemed to be immensely insecure vieling himself so people still thought his face was still shining.

I'm sure you can figure out the implicit references and there may be some hyperbole, but do you care to say why they are inaccurate?

Doctor.Sphinx · Sep 14, 2018

DamianWarS said:
I'm sure you can figure out the implicit references and there may be some hyperbole, but do you care to say why they are inaccurate?

Just find the scriptures to back your claims. If you can, I'll retract my statement.

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted (intro, see below). When faced with conflict/challenges he hides (Exodus 2:11-15, Exodus 4:10, 13, 14), runs away (Exodus 2:11-15, Exodus 4:10, 13, 14) or throws a tantrum (Exodus 32:19). He ran away from Egypt (Exodus 2:11-15) and it took him 40 years (Acts 7:30) to get the nerve to come back (Exodus 4:19) He refused to be the mouthpiece of God and kept giving excuses why he didn't want to do it (Exodus 4:10, 13, 14). In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things (Exodus 32:19) hitting rocks with his stick (Numbers 20:11) and seemed to be immensely insecure (Numbers 20:12, Exodus 4:10, 13, 14) veiling himself so people still thought his face was still shining (2 Corinthians 3:13)

Doctor.Sphinx · Sep 14, 2018

DamianWarS said:
Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted (intro, see below). When faced with conflict/challenges he hides (Exodus 2:11-15, Exodus 4:10, 13, 14), runs away (Exodus 2:11-15, Exodus 4:10, 13, 14) or throws a tantrum (Exodus 32:19). He ran away from Egypt (Exodus 2:11-15) and it took him 40 years (Acts 7:30) to get the nerve to come back (Exodus 4:19) He refused to be the mouthpiece of God and kept giving excuses why he didn't want to do it (Exodus 4:10, 13, 14). In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things (Exodus 32:19) hitting rocks with his stick (Numbers 20:11) and seemed to be immensely insecure (Numbers 20:12) veiling himself so people still thought his face was still shining (2 Corinthians 3:13)

You didn't quote, you referenced. Had you quoted, you would have seen no bible version supports your inaccuracies.

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Doctor.Sphinx said:
You didn't quote, you referenced. Had you quoted, you would have seen no bible version supports your inaccuracies.

Did you not say "Just find the scriptures to back your claims..." there was no request to quote. You are free to read the scriptures I listed and if you disagree it would be more productive to say why than some sort of filibuster move.

Soyeong · Sep 14, 2018

DamianWarS said:
Seems Moses had a bit of a temper and was short sighted. When faced with conflict/challenges he hides, runs away or throws a tantrum. He ran away from Egypt and it took him 40 years to get the nerve to come back. He refused to be the mouthpiece of God and kept giving excuses why he didn't want to do it. In rage he would be aggressive, throwing and breaking things, hitting rocks with his stick and seemed to be immensely insecure vieling himself so people still thought his face was still shining.

If you were to list of every time you lost your temper or did something wrong, how would it compare?

DamianWarS · Sep 14, 2018

Soyeong said:
If you were to list of every time you lost your temper or did something wrong, how would it compare?

Not on a Moses scale. Maybe it's me but I don't destroy whatever is close by just because I'm angry.

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